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daft punk railroad posted:more like quacktime more like ur mom gave me a quicktime haha, 0wn3d
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duTrieux. posted:i don't really have any strong feelings about calcium oxide. i guess in general i'm in support, it's an important chemical in industry and is where we got the word limelight so i can't complain
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Feb 23, 2015 04:51
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Shakespearean Beef posted:more like slowtime
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Feb 23, 2015 04:52
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QuickTime is barely tolerable on osx and awful on windows
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Feb 23, 2015 04:53
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file format has issues because they couldn't have possibly designed it to be forward thinking for video formats 23 years ago. Things like gamma is never correct on half the formats unless it's completely controlled (host software, encoder, decoder, playback software) The player has never done any kind of gamma correction for Windows, so it's terrible there. QuickTime X in OS X is good, but it only plays back Mpeg-4 varients. Everyhting is piped through QT 7 framework otherwise and you have all the same suck. this is also a thing since you need QT 7 to correctly play back files Final Cut spits out that aren't mpeg-4 based: 
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Feb 23, 2015 05:24
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:more like ur mom gave me a quicktime your mom gave me a safari iykwim
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Feb 23, 2015 05:30
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i just remember how lovely the player has always looked
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Feb 23, 2015 05:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDPWbadeY5M
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Feb 23, 2015 05:42
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the 2.0 video owns
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Feb 23, 2015 05:46
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Shaggar posted:its bad, op. its real real bad
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Feb 23, 2015 07:23
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quickytime has been trash since iits inception
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Feb 23, 2015 07:23
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Skylark posted:With all the fuss these days, I feel like a lot of people forget about good old Quicktime. QuickTime is awesome because QuickTime is a well-factored API and container format. people who confuse QuickTime with individual CODECs are idiot shitlords. a QuickTime movie is made up of tracks containing track media. there are a bunch of completely generic API for dealing with this, including the fact that different track media may use different CODECs while still retaining their track type. (e.g. a video track may use Cinepak, H.264, whatever, but it's still a "video" track in the API and all video poo poo can be done to it), time bases, etc. thus it works extremely well not just for capture and playback but also for things like nonlinear editing. I tried to convince xiphmont this was The Right Thing when he was designing the Ogg APIs but he was all "Ogg is just an output format, not a container format!" and welp.
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Feb 23, 2015 09:04
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eschaton posted:idiot shitlords. idiot shitlords, huh?
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Feb 23, 2015 09:05
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eschaton posted:QuickTime is awesome because QuickTime is a well-factored API and container format. people who confuse QuickTime with individual CODECs are idiot shitlords. pagancan can i get an assist on this post? good? bad?
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Feb 23, 2015 09:06
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pagancow lol
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Feb 23, 2015 09:07
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eschaton prob coded part of it
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Feb 23, 2015 09:07
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immanentise the op
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Feb 23, 2015 09:09
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LP0 ON FIRE posted:you mean h.264 vs h.265. it's fairly new, but i think it's considered a standard that has pretty good compatibility the H.265 video CODEC is supposed to get the same quality with something like 1/4 to 1/2 the data rate of the H.264 video CODEC, which is why it's expected to be the go-to for 4K video. I gather at least the free encoder implementations aren't quite there yet. I'd listen to the later Melton podcast to see what he has to say.
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Feb 23, 2015 09:10
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pagancow is my trusted expert, and i like him. thats worth a lot in "the biz" as they say
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Feb 23, 2015 09:11
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I'm gonna use my video player to watch animé.
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Feb 23, 2015 09:13
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Flat Daddy posted:I'm gonna use my video player to watch animé. haha yea same buy doa5 ryona
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Feb 23, 2015 09:13
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theadder posted:eschaton prob coded part of it I didn't but know some of the folks involved and they're OK I'm rotor old, but not that old
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Feb 23, 2015 09:28
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i meant x imo
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Feb 23, 2015 09:29
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Flat Daddy posted:I'm gonna use my video player to watch animé. it's pronounced "japanimation" 
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Feb 23, 2015 09:30
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eschaton posted:it's pronounced "japanimation" jap animation? Doesn't sound PC. I'll believe u though because I havent watched any yet. I'm starting tomorrow.
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Feb 23, 2015 09:34
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Smythe posted:pagancow is my trusted expert, and i like him. thats worth a lot in "the biz" as they say yvcpos tgread is past it's prime though please do the needful and end it's misery
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Feb 23, 2015 09:39
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in the late 90s when cd singles were a thing and when putting music videos on them was also a thing, the ones that used quicktime consistently had both larger filesizes and weirder, more visible artifacting than the ones that used avi or mpg therefore Shaggar posted:its bad, op. its real real bad
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Feb 23, 2015 12:28
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sorenson was rly bad but now it uses h.264 so it's ok i guess
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Feb 23, 2015 13:18
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eschaton posted:the H.265 video CODEC is supposed to get the same quality with something like 1/4 to 1/2 the data rate of the H.264 video CODEC, which is why it's expected to be the go-to for 4K video. yeah i think you can get up to 1/2 the amount of file size for the same quality than if you were using h.264
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eschaton posted:QuickTime is awesome because QuickTime is a well-factored API and container format. people who confuse QuickTime with individual CODECs are idiot shitlords. this is true that the container was very forward thinking for 1991 but there were many oversights that they couldn't possibly think of for modern codecs that gently caress up quicktime container for todays use. (No standard way to store gamma, real confusing way to set frame rate for audio and video tracks in attempts to sync them up, Third party tools not implementing HOW to read the container metadata in a standard way causes A/V desyncs like in pro tools,no standard way to store multi-channel audio, 32-bit only framework, list goes on) It would be like saying "When the Sega Genesis launched in 1989 it was awesome, and guess what it's still awesome because it was awesome then!" but it's not a good platform for a lot of things that we do in modern games. Apple doesn't even deliver quicktime files anymore. Think about that. pagancow fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Feb 23, 2015 |
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Feb 23, 2015 15:01
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i rememeber installing quicktime on my macintosh IIsi with system 7.0.1 so I could play sherlock holmes: consulting detective 
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Feb 23, 2015 15:19
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mov was an amazing format but h264 is clearly superiour, apple was the first big company to fully realize the greatness of the h264 codec. thank you steve (SAW).
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Feb 23, 2015 15:44
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pagancow posted:this is true that the container was very forward thinking for 1991 but there were many oversights that they couldn't possibly think of for modern codecs that gently caress up quicktime container for todays use. (No standard way to store gamma, real confusing way to set frame rate for audio and video tracks in attempts to sync them up, Third party tools not implementing HOW to read the container metadata in a standard way causes A/V desyncs like in pro tools,no standard way to store multi-channel audio, 32-bit only framework, list goes on)
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Feb 23, 2015 16:44
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Maximum Leader posted:mov was an amazing format but h264 is clearly superiour, apple was the first big company to fully realize the greatness of the h264 codec. thank you steve (SAW). mov is a container and can contain various codecs including h.264 but mp4 is superior
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Feb 23, 2015 16:47
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Thread got bad
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Feb 23, 2015 17:38
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i am pleased that my quicklime post got at least one quote
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Feb 23, 2015 17:49
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jony ive aces posted:does mp4 fix any of these problems? Yes, they solved color space, and they also made it so it can only hold one video codec and one audio codec.
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Feb 23, 2015 18:01
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emptyquote my post if you installed Quicktime to play Myst.
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As a Millennial I posted:emptyquote my post if you installed Quicktime to play Myst.
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only 90's kids will get that.
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