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Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

In like a beholder, out like a halfling.

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Dr. Lunchables
Dec 27, 2012

IRL DEBUFFED KOBOLD



in like a djinn

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

FATAL & Friends
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After the leak, it had to go out of layout and back into editing for being too long, but apparently it went back out of editing shortly after that so who knows.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
Is there any way to pronounce Cuthbert that doesn't make you sound like you have a lisp?

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

whydirt posted:

Is there any way to pronounce Cuthbert that doesn't make you sound like you have a lisp?
Cusbert.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!
I would love to play in an Exalted game but I seem to have the same problem with Exalted that I have with a lot of L5R groups: an absurd amount of metaplot I don't have any particular interest in reading or being beholden to. It sounds like it could be an interesting game with a cool setting, but every group I find expects me to know a million fiddly little details scattered throughout a hundred different books and I just don't have any desire to do more research for an RPG character than I did for grad school.

MadScientistWorking
Jun 23, 2010

"I was going through a time period where I was looking up weird stories involving necrophilia..."

Adept Nightingale posted:


I'm mostly going to keep running my NWoD campaign, but my group's been talking for a little while about trying out Ashen Stars-- maybe this month will be the month.
Yeah Im starting to run that myself admittedly I'm kludging the game system a bit to get it to do what I want it to.

Galaga Galaxian posted:

My RPG mood is way too easily influenced by whatever video games or movies I've been watching lately. :shobon:
Pfftt.... Until you can seriously claim that you have drawn inspiration from Jimmy Buffett you have not reached the levels I have.

MadScientistWorking fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Mar 1, 2015

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

whydirt posted:

Is there any way to pronounce Cuthbert that doesn't make you sound like you have a lisp?
Be Irish. We have a complex relationship with "th" sounds.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Q-Bert

Lynx Winters
May 1, 2003

Borderlawns: The Treehouse of Pandora
I used to like Exalted a lot, then I started getting wise to the creepier aspects of it. As soon as I discovered Legends of the Wulin had all the things I wanted in Exalted without the skeevy poo poo I never looked back. Exalted still has some cool ideas that I like, but 2E was a mechanical mess and I really doubt 3E is gonna fix it enough for me to care.

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Splicer posted:

My new job just wrecked my usual RPG schedule, but I'll hopefully be playing Some Fallout Thing and running the occasional Danger Patrol.

Also in the last thread I misread a request and accidentally offered to implement a Subset sum problem in javascript. This may have been a mistake.

LOL last month a friend asked me: I have a deck of cards. 2 are worth 10 points, 10 are worth 3, 20 are worth 1. What's the average value if I draw 2 cards from a full deck?

And I was like oh yeah super easy to build in Excel. Don't even need vba...

hubris!

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011


@#$&!

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Exalted is pretty much Feat Tax: The RPG only with about 50 times more mechanics than you need to do loving anything, with a side of WW's usual "how dare you expect to be a unambiguous good guy, here's some mechanics to make you do evil poo poo if you want to or not".

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
Uhh, it is pronouncd "Q*Bert" :rolleyes:

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

The Racist Q*Bert meme.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Quarex posted:

Uhh, it is pronouncd "Q*Bert" :rolleyes:
The Q*Bert Report

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

fosborb posted:

LOL last month a friend asked me: I have a deck of cards. 2 are worth 10 points, 10 are worth 3, 20 are worth 1. What's the average value if I draw 2 cards from a full deck?

And I was like oh yeah super easy to build in Excel. Don't even need vba...
4.375 points

38.31% chance you get 2 points
40.32% chance you get 4 points
9.07% chance you get 6 points
8.06% chance you get 11 points
4.03% chance you get 13 points
0.20% chance you get 20 points

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Mark Rein "Q*Bert" Hagen.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

FactsAreUseless posted:

The Racist Q*Bert meme.

A @#$%&! A @#$%&! Look there's a @#$%&!

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

K*Ramer

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

FMguru posted:

4.375 points

38.31% chance you get 2 points
40.32% chance you get 4 points
9.07% chance you get 6 points
8.06% chance you get 11 points
4.03% chance you get 13 points
0.20% chance you get 20 points
Where's your general solution :colbert:

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

FMguru posted:

4.375 points

38.31% chance you get 2 points
40.32% chance you get 4 points
9.07% chance you get 6 points
8.06% chance you get 11 points
4.03% chance you get 13 points
0.20% chance you get 20 points

Mind running through the math?

I ended up estimating it with a markov chain but it occurs to me I may have been over thinking it. I was calculating it in a way that recalculated the total population each draw, but the exact order of draws doesn't matter if it's just "draw 3 at once." Whoops.

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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I'm not super great at math, but this sounds like conditional probability problem.

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)
It doesn't seem that rough, I think I could put together the math in a notepad right now.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

fosborb posted:

Mind running through the math?
2 points = (20/32) * (19/31)
4 points = (10/32) * (20/31) + (20/32) * (10/31)
6 points = (10/32) * (9/31)
11 points = (20/32) * (2/31) + (2/32) * (20/31)
13 points = (10/32) * (2/31) + (2/32) * (10/31)
20 points = (2/32) * (1/31)

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)
The average is approximately 4.58.

First card
2/32 results in 10
10/32 results in 3
20/32 results in 1

First + Second Card if First is 10
2/32 * 1/31 results in 10 + 10
2/32 * 10/31 results in 10 + 3
2/32 * 20/31 results in 10 + 1

First + Second Card if First is 3
10/32 * 2/31 results in 3 + 10
10/32 * 9/31 results in 3 + 3
10/32 * 20/31 results in 3 + 1

First + Second Card if First is 1
20/32 * 2/31 results in 1 + 10
20/32 * 10/31 results in 1 + 3
20/32 * 19/31 results in 1 + 1

Probability Distribution
2/992 results in 20
20/992 results in 13
40/992 results in 11
20/992 results in 13
90/992 results in 6
200/992 results in 4
40/992 results in 11
200/992 results in 4
380/992 results in 2

Weighted Averages
2/992 * 20 = 40/992
40/992 * 13 = 520/992
80/992 * 11 = 880/992
90/992 * 6 = 540/992
400/992 * 4 = 1600/992
380/992 * 2 = 960/992

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Meinberg posted:

It doesn't seem that rough, I think I could put together the math in a notepad right now.
It's really easy to do intuitively, but:

Splicer posted:

Where's your general solution :colbert:

fosborb
Dec 15, 2006



Chronic Good Poster

Splicer posted:

2 points = (20/32) * (19/31)
4 points = (10/32) * (20/31) + (20/32) * (10/31)
6 points = (10/32) * (9/31)
11 points = (20/32) * (2/31) + (2/32) * (20/31)
13 points = (10/32) * (2/31) + (2/32) * (10/31)
20 points = (2/32) * (1/31)

Thanks, yeah I was definitely over thinking it. At the same time, the actual request was something like "what's the distribution if I draw 4 cards? or 5? or 6?" and while the underlying math remains the same, I think I prefer the "iterate 100,000 tests" method to more quickly play with the number and value of cards.

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

Splicer posted:

It's really easy to do intuitively, but:

Just use a probability tree! And then if I wind in a situation with way too many probabilities to track by hand, then I'll look into using a program.

Simian_Prime
Nov 6, 2011

When they passed out body parts in the comics today, I got Cathy's nose and Dick Tracy's private parts.
Was going to run Dungeon World today, but two of my three players couldn't make it, so I had to cancel. :(

Bummed.

Jimbozig
Sep 30, 2003

I like sharing and ice cream and animals.
This month I'll be writing and writing all the stretch goals for Strike!

Speaking of which, if you haven't backed Strike yet, there are less than 48 hours left on the Kickstarter.


The Warlord says "Get to Kickstarter and pledge right now!"

Jimbozig fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Mar 2, 2015

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Can you timg that? That is breaking some tables.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
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It's a stretch goal.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Splicer posted:

It's a stretch goal.
At $10,000 you can pick one image to stop breaking tables!

At $20,000 no more tables broken ever!

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Quarex posted:

At $20,000 no more tables broken ever!

Hello and welcome to the Something Awful Forums. Would you like to hear the good news about our fabulous new implementation of VBulletin, TITAN?

Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

Reene posted:

Wait, are you in PDX?

I am indeed!

Also, a cat was sitting on my character sheet for the first half hour or so of the night.

AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005

I FORGOT TO HAIL KING TORG

Ettin posted:

The completed core book of Breakfast Cult, hopefully. :getin:
Is the offer for people who missed it to get in on the Kickstarter still open? I sent an email to the address you listed a while back, but no response.

Jimbozig
Sep 30, 2003

I like sharing and ice cream and animals.

Mors Rattus posted:

Can you timg that? That is breaking some tables.

Hah! Sorry, it looked fine on my screen. Fixed it now.

Kemper Boyd
Aug 6, 2007

no kings, no gods, no masters but a comfy chair and no socks
I'm running TOR again today at a friend's place. Hope the cats won't mess up all the dice.

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point of return
Aug 13, 2011

by exmarx

fosborb posted:

Thanks, yeah I was definitely over thinking it. At the same time, the actual request was something like "what's the distribution if I draw 4 cards? or 5? or 6?" and while the underlying math remains the same, I think I prefer the "iterate 100,000 tests" method to more quickly play with the number and value of cards.

If you want to compute it exactly for 4 or 5 or 6 cards your best bet is polynomials. If you have a set of cards, each with value mi, then the elementary symmetric polynomial ek(Xm1,Xm2,...,Xmn-1,Xmn) will be the sum of Xt for every possible choice of t, and then you can just divide by the value at X=1(which is just a binomial coefficient C(n,k)) and get probabilities.

This seems like it's just a restatement of the problem, but Newton figured out how to go between that form and the power sums, which are very straightforward to compute in the given case; you wouldn't necessarily want to do this by hand but there are computer libraries like numpy that should have polynomial multiplication algorithms, etc.

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