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Zoness posted:I want to think that the shortcut is useful somewhere or that there might be a card with both megamorph and morph at some point. Unfortuantely, I think the real answer is they wanted to use the Morph mechanic in a way in which they'd be able to argue it was actually a different ability rather than "we used Morph again."
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Mar 2, 2015 21:42
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What do you mean Zurgo is less badass as a Bellstriker? Just imagine this card: Zurgo Bellstriker - 3R Legendary Creature - Orc Warrior Dash 2R T: Tap target creature and put a Bell Strike counter on it. It doesn't untap during it's controller's upkeep as long as it has a Bell Strike counter on it and gains "6: Untap this creature." 3/3 I would play the poo poo out of this card. Ultima66 fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 21:44
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apistat posted:
Is there a reason this doesn't say "creatures you control with flying have haste"? It's going to be annoying explaining to people that when they turn their manifested dragon face up, it doesn't gain haste.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:44
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BJPaskoff posted:Is there a reason this doesn't say "creatures you control with flying have haste"? It's going to be annoying explaining to people that when they turn their manifested dragon face up, it doesn't gain haste. Flying can be removed so I imagine this template avoids layering / timing issues, especially with stuff like archetype of flying giving.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:47
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Ultima66 posted:What do you mean Zurgo is less badass as a Bellstriker? Just imagine this card: Psssst. Zurgo is an Orc.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:48
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BJPaskoff posted:Is there a reason this doesn't say "creatures you control with flying have haste"? It's going to be annoying explaining to people that when they turn their manifested dragon face up, it doesn't gain haste. What happens if you have this card and Wonder in your graveyard with the necessary island?
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Mar 2, 2015 21:48
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odiv posted:Oh, I wasn't nitpicking, just pointing out an important difference. I'd actually prefer it synergize well with Manifest, but that probably broke something in testing. Seems ok to me. You have a choice between flipping it up for the (presumably cheaper) mana cost or paying a premium to "megamorph" it and get the extra counter. Seems to create more interesting choices that way.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:48
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BJPaskoff posted:Is there a reason this doesn't say "creatures you control with flying have haste"? It's going to be annoying explaining to people that when they turn their manifested dragon face up, it doesn't gain haste. Well. If something is manifested or morphed, 9 times out of 10, it is going to be a turn or two before you flip it, anyway. It is only wierd corner cases where you Soul Summons a dragon face down with 6 more mana available and this already on the field. 
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Mar 2, 2015 21:49
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BJPaskoff posted:Is there a reason this doesn't say "creatures you control with flying have haste"? It's going to be annoying explaining to people that when they turn their manifested dragon face up, it doesn't gain haste. Because Hushwing Gryff don't give a gently caress.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:54
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Spiderdrake posted:The bird of paradise has to zoom in through the tempest to have haste obviously. It's like a boost pad in a kart racing game. Creatures you play would gain flying in time to get haste from the triggered ability.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:57
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-fate-reforged-2015-02-27 Whenever they post FFL decklists I always wonder how much it's warped by things having different stats or mana costs or what have you in development. Some of their lists just look obviously weird. A UB control deck that runs Temporal Tresspass and Worst Fears but only 2 Dig Through Time?
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Mar 2, 2015 22:23
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Entropic posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-fate-reforged-2015-02-27 I think its just the perils of having a "league" which is basically like 10 guys. The choices they make are all influenced by their own internal meta and there's no real way to get a fresh take other than playing the same dudes. Its interesting to see them though since some of them include cards that never made it to print - Gavin's UB Control list is running Cruel Edict, which hasn't actually been printed since Tenth Edition. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 22:28
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BJPaskoff, if you could add the EDH thread to the OP that would be super great: M:tG Commander Thread: My definition of fun is objectively better than yours Discussion and decklists for the 100 card singleton format featuring a legendary general.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:32
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So they had Cruel Edict and cut it?
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Mar 2, 2015 22:33
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Nehru the Damaja posted:So they had Cruel Edict and cut it? There's a note that it says it was cut, which makes me sad since I like Edict effects a lot. I imagine it was cut to let stuff like the Heroic cards have a chance (since Cruel Edict would basically eliminate the Heroic decks from existing). Its possible they thought it ran too much into Merciless Executioner.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:33
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Angry Grimace posted:There's a note that it says it was cut, which makes me sad since I like Edict effects a lot. I imagine it was cut to let stuff like the Heroic cards have a chance (since Cruel Edict would basically eliminate the Heroic decks from existing). Its possible they thought it ran too much into Merciless Executioner. My guess is that it actually turned into Merciless Executioner.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:35
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Edict probably got replaced by the Flashbag Marauder reprint. It's interesting that they apparently are able to make some pretty good guesses at the rough outlines of what the top archetypes will be, they just get a lot of fundamental stuff wrong in their builds. Which is fine. I mean, they're not trying to predict the exact pro tour lists, they just want to have some idea of what the format is going to look like and if any particular cards or strategies are just too good.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:36
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every new card will be good
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Mar 2, 2015 22:38
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every new card will be bad
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Mar 2, 2015 22:38
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some of the cards will be good, some of them bad
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Mar 2, 2015 22:38
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there, I can point to one of those 3 posts and go I told you so in 3 weeks
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Mar 2, 2015 22:39
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Dr. Stab posted:Solemn wasn't in m11. This is the 12th edition of the thread, isn't it? I guess I forgot M12 is technically the 13th coreset
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Mar 2, 2015 22:40
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forbidden lesbian posted:every new card will be bad
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Mar 2, 2015 22:41
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forbidden lesbian posted:some of the cards will be good, some of them bad This is hosed up and not true.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:41
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Entropic posted:Edict probably got replaced by the Flashbag Marauder reprint. I like hearing the FFL stories they tell and things that caused cards to get cut from the set. That was how Warleader's Helix ended up in DGM - the card was a Lightning Helix reprint, and then everyone in the FFL started running UWR with Helix and Snapcaster Mage and then they said, "let's not print this." They already had the card art ready to go, so they designed a less playable version last minute that would be able to use Lightning Helix art, but not be Lightning Helix.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:43
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forbidden lesbian posted:some of the cards will be good, some of them strictly better ftfy
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Mar 2, 2015 22:44
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I'm extremely disappointed with megamorph. I was really hoping they would create a keyword like: Boltguy 1R Sorcery Boltguy deals 3 damage to target creature or player. Keyword R (you can play this as a morph for 3, then cast it at any time for R). It's just so meh.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:46
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I think the new Sisidi will be good. In commander. Not sure about standard or draft yet. Edit: also, I was hoping the next morph mechanic would be morph that would trigger depending on game state, ie "if you lost five or more life this turn, flip this card face up" or something like that. STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Mar 2, 2015 |
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Mar 2, 2015 22:47
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forbidden lesbian posted:some of the cards will be good, miniature flags for others
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Mar 2, 2015 22:47
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Entropic posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-fate-reforged-2015-02-27 For instance, Atarka (featured in one of their decks) was meant to cost 6 instead of 7 according to one of the R&D videos.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:48
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Its supposed to say "miniature Jeskai banners for others."
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Mar 2, 2015 22:49
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forbidden lesbian posted:there, I can point to one of those 3 posts and go I told you so in 3 weeks im predicting the entire set is just a series of reminder cards that spell out Bear Sterns Bravo
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Mar 2, 2015 22:49
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Attorney at Funk posted:This is hosed up and not true.  Angry Grimace posted:I like hearing the FFL stories they tell and things that caused cards to get cut from the set. That was how Warleader's Helix ended up in DGM - the card was a Lightning Helix reprint, and then everyone in the FFL started running UWR with Helix and Snapcaster Mage and then they said, "let's not print this." They already had the card art ready to go, so they designed a less playable version last minute that would be able to use Lightning Helix art, but not be Lightning Helix. I'm alright with that one, Helix is an absurd card then again, imagine that W/R standard Burn deck that had Boros Charm with Helix *I whisper "the value" as tears start streaming from my eyes*
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Mar 2, 2015 22:53
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Fiend Computer posted:I think the new Sisidi will be good. It will be very good in draft.
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Mar 2, 2015 22:54
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Entropic posted:http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/days-future-future-fate-reforged-2015-02-27 That U/B control deck has Cruel Edict in it...just pointing it out, deffo not saying it's gonna get reprinted in Dragons or anything...
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Mar 2, 2015 22:56
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forbidden lesbian posted:That U/B control deck has Cruel Edict in it...just pointing it out, deffo not saying it's gonna get reprinted in Dragons or anything... It says right underneath the decklist that Cruel Edict was originally in Fate Reforged but got cut.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:06
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I look forward to seeing what is done with Exploit, but I'm curious about why it is templated as it is, with the ability explained on it's own, with no inherent upside, then a condition printed separately. Going by things like Battalion, I would have expected something like:quote:Exploit - When Sidisi, Undead Vizier enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice a creature. If you do, you may search your library for a card, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library. I notice that there is no condition that you sac another creature, so if you want a 5CMC Diabolic Tutor you got it. It's going to be a case of the effects provided, and if any good death triggers come around. Maybe Athreos's time to shine?
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Mar 2, 2015 23:06
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Entropic posted:It says right underneath the decklist that Cruel Edict was originally in Fate Reforged but got cut. Oh wow, I did not notice that, how unfortunate. Edicts are cool.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:09
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I like that it's EtB and not "when you cast". Potentially good possibilities incoming for Whip and Alesha.
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