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NickRoweFillea posted:im still laughing at the fact that jbl said "im starting to believe" in regards to roman reigns at the end of the show One step closer to the only thing I want to see Roman Reigns doing on my TV: a tag team with Bo Dallas called Bolieve Dat.
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Tezzor posted:Bryan is the only competitor who can credibly beat Brock Lesnar and he never will I actually could buy Rusev doing it too.
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NickRoweFillea posted:im still laughing at the fact that jbl said "im starting to believe" in regards to roman reigns at the end of the show They have no idea how to get the crowd behind Reigns. So they went from powerhouse chosen one to underdog.
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 07:56 |
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IC title situation is pretty great and I am excited for a record-breaking R-truth IC reign
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Nessus posted:I dunno, though I understand in the vision of the match story this is true. I think Rollins or Ambrose could credibly beat him, though in Rollins' case he'd probably need some kind of chickenshit tactical backup like the Big Show shoving Lesnar over, and Ambrose would probably have to get bloody to represent how his rampant mental illness is giving him power. I have literally not been watching long enough to see Randy Orton in action but maybe him too.
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NutritiousSnack posted:They have no idea how to get the crowd behind Reigns. So they went from powerhouse chosen one to underdog. It's really hilarious how spastic his push has been from silent badass to Sylvester the Cat jokes to least believable underdog ever. Good thing strayed from his perfect first characterization thinking he could make it better and failed miserably.
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 08:14 |
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Weird that they didn't do something with Goldust/Stardust
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sticklefifer posted:I haven't watched Raw yet, but looking at the match times it seems they still can't book anything longer than a 3-4 minute undercard match. It seems more like a variety show at this point, and I don't know what that does for their biggest show of the year. I don't know, I've already been skimming through lately but after watching so much good wrestling this week alone I'm having trouble generating any interest in Raw Is Segments.
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Walrus Pete posted:Seriously. I'm still baffled that they made the switch to a three-hour show. Jon Stewart was really good tonight though. Money makes the world go round, Vince was offered so much money he'd be a fool to turn it down for the extra hour.
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GrimGypsy posted:Weird that they didn't do something with Goldust/Stardust Stardust's world needed him so he went home.
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Shima Honnou posted:Stardust's world needed him so he went home. Can Roman's planet need him too? That was the best raw in a long time. I really like how the IC belt is something that a lot of people want. The only downside to it is that Barrett is looking like a chump, but it's elevating a lot of other guys to his level. Is Bryan for sure gonna be in that one? The angle is super entertaining, lots of talented guys, some comedy, and everyone wants the loving belt for a change. Also I just rewatched the Heyman promo. loving hell. Every time I think he's gotten as good as he's gonna get he goes out and is somehow even better. It's unreal the level he's working at.
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AlmightyPants posted:Can Roman's planet need him too? Elevating guys to his level? The geek who constantly gets his belt stolen and loses all the time? Some elevation.
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If anything is getting elevated it's the feud itself thanks to everyone involved embracing the silliness. That match could end up stealing the show.
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Tezzor posted:Bryan is the only competitor who can credibly beat Brock Lesnar and he never will The only way Bryan could credibly beat Brock is to have Brock arrested for murder after he tore Bryan in half.
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 10:45 |
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People genuinely think that Bryan could face Brock and have the match look credible? Wow.
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Aurain posted:People genuinely think that Bryan could face Brock and have the match look credible? Wow. You're right. Might as well put Reigns in there lmbo
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 10:57 |
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Wrestlemania Main Event is going to be really good.
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MassRafTer posted:Elevating guys to his level? The geek who constantly gets his belt stolen and loses all the time? Some elevation. I meant to change that when I wrote it but forgot. It is elevating the belt though, suddenly it's something that a lot of guys want all of a sudden. There's always talk about so-and-so holding the belt elevating it, but it turns out that if everyone wants the belt then it's important too! And actually, that probably makes it more important! It is an object of desire worth fighting for. The only person involved in it who I can't see winning at all is Ziggler because he keeps pissing off the office. Everyone else has a credible shot at winning the drat thing. Even Barrett - he could retain and then lose it the next night to a debuting Neville or Zayn and the crowd would go absolutely crazy for it. It's unbelievable to me that they're giving a good half-dozen guys an angle that actually makes them and the belt all look better.
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Aurain posted:People genuinely think that Bryan could face Brock and have the match look credible? Wow. Look at this fucker who never saw Brock v Eddie and Eddie wasn't half as good as Bryan.
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Lid posted:Look at this fucker who never saw Brock v Eddie and Eddie wasn't half as good as Bryan. What.
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 11:05 |
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That was a really good Raw, and that Heyman promo was out-of-this-world great, holy poo poo.
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Lid posted:Look at this fucker who never saw Brock v Eddie and Eddie wasn't half as good as Bryan. Hey now, let's not say things we'll regret in the morning. I'd argue that Bryan's better, but twice as good? Having said that, I'd also happily entertain arguments that Eddie was better.
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 11:39 |
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While three hours has been a bad move from a creative standpoint, how has it been for WWE and USA Network from a business standpoint?
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 11:51 |
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To be fair, when Eddie beat Brock Brock was just 'big new star and bully heel', not 'unstoppable machine of flesh and destruction who broke the Undertaker's Streak and utterly stomped a hole in the most protected champion maybe in history.' Eddie was the underdog, but nowhere near the kind of underdog Bryan would have been.
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Lid posted:Look at this fucker who never saw Brock v Eddie and Eddie wasn't half as good as Bryan. Good wrestling =/= credible looks. There's no one on that roster who you look at and think "Yeah, they could fight Lesnar".
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 12:10 |
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Man, reading the recap makes me sad I missed raw for the first time in a long time.
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 12:39 |
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I fell asleep during the last commercial. Did Reigns continue to get booed at the end?
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 13:11 |
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I was kinda hoping the requisite annual female HOF inductee would've been Elizabeth this year since Savage is finally in this year too. Alundra Blayze is a pretty cool entry though.
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That was the first Raw I almost stuck with the whole time. It was a fun show overall! Watched the main event this morning. Sure, pin the new golden boy who is supposed to main event Mania, why not right? We're just having fun out here Maggle! I would love to know if they're trying to kill Orton's heat or what. He could have been such an awesome fired up babyface on his return, trying to get through Seth's bodyguards to get at him.
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Aurain posted:Good wrestling =/= credible looks. There's no one on that roster who you look at and think "Yeah, they could fight Lesnar". The Big Show! He's big! And a show!
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Cornwind Evil posted:To be fair, when Eddie beat Brock Brock was just 'big new star and bully heel', not 'unstoppable machine of flesh and destruction who broke the Undertaker's Streak and utterly stomped a hole in the most protected champion maybe in history.' Eddie was the underdog, but nowhere near the kind of underdog Bryan would have been. Brock's first run featured him making war paint out of the carcass of Hulk Hogan, beating the Rock in a Mach built around who was the better athlete, murdering Taker in the Cell, and superplexing Big Show through the ring. Brock has always been a monster. Come to think of it, he might be the first guy since Hogan who exclusively worked in the main event his entire WWE run.
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Aurain posted:People genuinely think that Bryan could face Brock and have the match look credible? Wow. It happened with CM Punk. Bryan looks a lot better than Punk, too.
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# ? Mar 3, 2015 14:32 |
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Last night I really thought Bryan hosed up his neck and arm again on that half-nelson suplex, especially falling flat on his face on the powerbomb reversal and the one-armed yessing. I actually can't really tell if that was just selling or not.
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Cromulent posted:Last night I really thought Bryan hosed up his neck and arm again on that half-nelson suplex, especially falling flat on his face on the powerbomb reversal and the one-armed yessing. I actually can't really tell if that was just selling or not. Bryan, Ziggler, and surprisingly Lesnar make me everytime they take a bump with how well they sell.
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CobiWann posted:While three hours has been a bad move from a creative standpoint, how has it been for WWE and USA Network from a business standpoint? USA really wanted three hours because of the money it makes from an additional hour of WWE ad buys instead of NCIS rerun ad buys, which it then sends to WWE in the form of their TV deal.
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sticklefifer posted:I was kinda hoping the requisite annual female HOF inductee would've been Elizabeth this year since Savage is finally in this year too. Alundra Blayze is a pretty cool entry though. Can't have too many dead people in one HoF ceremony.
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I really want to see Brock vs. Bryan because I feel like they would work it like a longer version of Kimo vs. Royce from UFC 3.
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Red posted:Can't have too many dead people in one HoF ceremony. Rather I doubt Elizabeth's family wouldn't have been too keen on her going in at the same time as Savage given the way he abused her. EDIT: Along those lines, what is Luger's relationship with WWE? He's never mentioned in the slightest. I don't recall even seeing him in all the Sting recaps they've been doing. Orgophlax fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Mar 3, 2015 |
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Orgophlax posted:EDIT: Along those lines, what is Luger's relationship with WWE? He's never mentioned in the slightest. I don't recall even seeing him in all the Sting recaps they've been doing. He was a special trainer/wellness advisor for WWE. I get the feeling it was a handout from Vince because Luger is physically wasted after his stroke.
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AlmightyPants posted:I meant to change that when I wrote it but forgot. It is elevating the belt though, suddenly it's something that a lot of guys want all of a sudden. There's always talk about so-and-so holding the belt elevating it, but it turns out that if everyone wants the belt then it's important too! And actually, that probably makes it more important! It is an object of desire worth fighting for. The only person involved in it who I can't see winning at all is Ziggler because he keeps pissing off the office. Everyone else has a credible shot at winning the drat thing. Even Barrett - he could retain and then lose it the next night to a debuting Neville or Zayn and the crowd would go absolutely crazy for it. It's unbelievable to me that they're giving a good half-dozen guys an angle that actually makes them and the belt all look better. having a bunch of losers going after the loser belt doesn't scream legitimacy to me. the mania match will probably be pretty great though.
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