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Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
That was flat-out murder around Guadalcanal. Nice job bagging that AK, even the US doesn't have that many dedicated military transports at this point in the war.

Edit: Update on previous page.

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Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Those poor Wellingtons. The voles of the skies.

HisMajestyBOB
Oct 21, 2010


College Slice
I noticed the Americans have landed troops in Shemya in the Aleutian Islands. I don't think they'll be able to effectively develop it with it being surrounded by Japanese bases.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
When will we get a new map?

Lakedaimon
Jan 11, 2007

Are your engineer units in the Kuriles there to build air bases for early-warning and area denial or is it just forts for the inevitable last year of the war?

BurningStone
Jun 3, 2011
Did soldiers really live in tents on the Aleutians? That had to seriously suck.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

When will we get a new map?

In the next update.


Lakedaimon posted:

Are your engineer units in the Kuriles there to build air bases for early-warning and area denial or is it just forts for the inevitable last year of the war?

A bit of A, a bit of B, really.


BurningStone posted:

Did soldiers really live in tents on the Aleutians? That had to seriously suck.

It probably sucked (imagine knowing that the guy who volunteered before you got sent to Fiji), but there are Siberian tribes who've been living in tents in even worse conditions, with more primitive means... So it's not impossible.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

BurningStone posted:

Did soldiers really live in tents on the Aleutians? That had to seriously suck.

In the summertime it isn't that bad. In winter they'd either have to have specialized cold-weather gear or live in cabins with a wood stove because otherwise you die.

dtkozl
Dec 17, 2001

ultima ratio regum
So outside of killings the rare birds in the allied merchant fleet, how much damage do you have to do in general before the allies start to really feel it?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

dtkozl posted:

So outside of killings the rare birds in the allied merchant fleet, how much damage do you have to do in general before the allies start to really feel it?

Nuke San Diego

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Nuke San Diego

Why would you do this? Nuke LA and remove the festering sore on California's rear end.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

dtkozl posted:

So outside of killings the rare birds in the allied merchant fleet, how much damage do you have to do in general before the allies start to really feel it?

There's the issue that the Allied fleet is basically composed of two generations of shipping - the pre-war miscellanea of converted merchants and WWI Shipping Board veterans, and the brand new Liberty ships, attack transports etc. So the question basically becomes: Are the Americans hurt by losing their pre-war merchant marine, given the superior replacements they'll be getting? I'm not sure how to answer that, but I hope that it will hurt them at least a little.

Burzmali
Oct 22, 2013

steinrokkan posted:

There's the issue that the Allied fleet is basically composed of two generations of shipping - the pre-war miscellanea of converted merchants and WWI Shipping Board veterans, and the brand new Liberty ships, attack transports etc. So the question basically becomes: Are the Americans hurt by losing their pre-war merchant marine, given the superior replacements they'll be getting? I'm not sure how to answer that, but I hope that it will hurt them at least a little.

Sinking ships doesn't hurt the US only sinking ships with troops hurts. Sinking the entire carrier fleet in 1942 just means they get better replacements sooner. The number of land units are the only real cap on the US's power.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Burzmali posted:

Sinking ships doesn't hurt the US only sinking ships with troops hurts. Sinking the entire carrier fleet in 1942 just means they get better replacements sooner. The number of land units are the only real cap on the US's power.

OTOH: Sinking merchants is an opportune way of maxing points for auto-victory. Which is quite reasonable, I think; the companies whose ships were chartered would probably be quite unhappy with all their assets getting blown to bits, and being replaced with mass pattern ships that initially had very poor reputation (not to mention some of the private ships can't be replaced with anything the government will be manufacturing).

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Well if the Allies keep making unescorted amphibious assaults to nowhere they are gonna lose a lot of troops on the high seas.

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

A White Guy posted:

Why would you do this? Nuke LA and remove the festering sore on California's rear end.

The only people who think there's a difference between people from San Diego and people from LA are people from San Diego.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

TildeATH posted:

The only people who think there's a difference between people from San Diego and people from LA are people from San Diego.

Ever heard about Donna Barstow?

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

I know the game can last until 1946, but is there a way to edit the game's files to make it go on longer? I'd love to see what theoretical planes and ships the Allies and Japanese could have been rolling with had things gone on that long.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

RZApublican posted:

I'd love to see what theoretical planes and ships the Allies and Japanese could have been rolling with had things gone on that long.

It wouldn't really be worth going past January 1947 since Japanese R&D would all be made up at that point.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

It wouldn't really be worth going past January 1947 since Japanese R&D would all be made up at that point.

In that case there must a mod of some sort that covers that, it would be a cool idea to explore.

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Jobbo_Fett posted:

It wouldn't really be worth going past January 1947 since Japanese R&D would all be made up at that point.

I guess they would be deploying Gundams and flying battleships at that point, assuming they had the industrial and fuel reserves to handle it. The flying Yamoto is a real fuel hog.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

sullat posted:

I guess they would be deploying Gundams and flying battleships at that point, assuming they had the industrial and fuel reserves to handle it. The flying Yamoto is a real fuel hog.

Tokyo Coastal Fortress's giant robot form is pretty powerful, though.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

RZApublican posted:

I know the game can last until 1946, but is there a way to edit the game's files to make it go on longer? I'd love to see what theoretical planes and ships the Allies and Japanese could have been rolling with had things gone on that long.

Someone'd have to actually put in those hypothetical assets into the game. You can extend the game longer I think, but the base files don't cover anything beyond the Midway CVs, Shooting Star fighters, the Japanese Me 262 knockoff and the Amagi / Katsuragi CVs

ElBrak
Aug 24, 2004

"Muerte, buen compinche. Muerte."
The maximum start and end date are hard coded in the game.

Gniwu
Dec 18, 2002

gradenko_2000 posted:

Someone'd have to actually put in those hypothetical assets into the game. You can extend the game longer I think, but the base files don't cover anything beyond the Midway CVs, Shooting Star fighters, the Japanese Me 262 knockoff and the Amagi / Katsuragi CVs

Wait, the game simulates functionally useless details like in-depth and accurate stats for every single type of torpedo used during the era, but it won't let you build the other 13 planned Unryu's, even if the war against the Allies is going fairly well? :grogdammit:

pthighs
Jun 21, 2013

Pillbug
The game, and its players, revere historical accuracy, so unless something was at least partially constructed you won't see it by default.

Gniwu
Dec 18, 2002

pthighs posted:

The game, and its players, revere historical accuracy, so unless something was at least partially constructed you won't see it by default.

But the game also potentially lets you play until 1946! Why abruptly cut off production/research at OTL August 1945 levels, especially for items that were already planned and would have been built, if the resources/pilots still had been there? Historical plausibility!! :eng99:

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
It's a interesting quirk of the game system that with Player Defined Upgrades, ahistorical R&D, manipulation of political points and spergy dedication to pilot training and industrial production, the Japanese player can form a truly modern air arm that's competitive with the Allied air force in both airframe and pilot quality ... but their land forces are always going to be stuck at historical levels of equipment and OOB, and they cannot really diverge from history in terms of the composition of their navy.

Meanwhile, the seeming embarrassment of riches enjoyed by the Allies belies their own inability to control production in both land, sea AND air. Sure, you get 250 Hellcats a month free and clear, but your Catalina and Dornier patrol boats must be nursed and shepherded carefully because you're only ever going to get so many.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Is there a way to game the AI into sortieing out with their carriers so we can possibly get a reverse Midway?

Caconym
Feb 12, 2013

Modding the scenarios to put in more of an already defined ship type or a few new devices and a TOE upgade or two for japanese divisions and regiments is kinda trivial, but most of those changes wont affect savegames, only new scenario starts.
So changing stuff depending on how the war's going is unfortuneately impossible, but planning for ahistorical Japansese success beforehand is very possible. It's actually quite fair when it comes to additional ships, because if things are going badly fuel and resource shortages will mean you won't have the heavy industry points you need to finish them.

Note to self, add 13 more Unryus to the queue if I ever start a Japanese campaign. :v:

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.
I shelled out :10bux: for archives to read this from the beginning, and I've got to say this LP is extremely well done. If the AI isn't putting up enough of a challenge in your mind, don't sweat it - reading it has been engrossing.

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

This is going to sound like the smallest question ever in the scheme of land invasions, Steinrokkan, but is there in anything in Western China past Urumchi and Wasu? Basically, is the Japanese-Mongolian force going to stop there or is there some other objective we can't see further afield?

Also, how is the invasion of Yunnan progressing? I don't think we've heard anything since you took that one city on the border between China and Burma.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
There is a road from Urumchi to Kashgar, and that's the very edge of the map already.

There is a road from Wasu to Alma-Ata (now known as Almaty), but I'm not actually sure if you can march to there because it's already an off-map base, and in any case Alma-Ata is a Soviet base and would trigger the Reds.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Any updates on an update?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Does this LP still exist?

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009
Steinrokkan was accidentally slain in his sleep by a junior IJN officer for dishonouring the Emperor when he failed to sink the Marblehead. The junior officer's zealous devotion to the Emperor is touching and sets the standards expected of His Majesty's officers :japan:

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
When can an LP be considered abandoned?

zetamind2000
Nov 6, 2007

I'm an alien.

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

When can an LP be considered abandoned?

His last post was today, so you might want to try PMing steinrokkan?

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

When can an LP be considered abandoned?

TURKEY TROTS TO WITP AARS. WHERE ARE WITP AARS? THE WORLD WONDERS...

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Quinntan
Sep 11, 2013
Last guy who made that joke got a probation for it.

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