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Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

I've not recently played any video games where I could really complain about the camera behind the protagonist to the point of frustration

It seems to me a few years ago, games could be ruined because of a bad camera, a problem that spilled onto level design and reviews could be scathing just based on a crappy camera system. Even big budget games could suffer from camera movement that was "off"

What is your opinion, video game playing pros of GBS? Has the 3rd person camera problem in video games been "solved", if such a thing is possible? What is the largest problem plaguing video game cameras today?

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TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

it never bothered me in mass effect 2 and 3. 1 was janky though

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
3rd person is for noobs

Cyberball 2072
Feb 17, 2014

by Lowtax
I'm not really into those types of games but I'd say no.

It hasn't gotten worse by any means, it just stuck at mediocrely acceptable.

IzzyFnStradlin
Jun 19, 2004
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: this sovereign citizen stuff might be closer to the truth than we are willing to admit.
yeah it's called "don't be a spaz newb and learn how to use the right analog stick with some finesse" lol

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Moridin920 posted:

3rd person is for noobs

No YOU'RE A RETARDED

TheSwizzler
May 13, 2005

LETTIN THE CAT OUTTA THE BAG
yeah its called first person

wrap it up behindtheshoulderailures

quakster
Jul 21, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
yes. the solution is to stop playing lovely games

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

quakster posted:

yes. the solution is to stop playing lovely games

whoa buddy relax we're just chilling here, sit down, have some doritos and join us

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Big Beef City posted:

No YOU'RE A RETARDED

yeah i love to see shepard's rear end waggling at me for hours on end

Otto von Ruthless
Oct 1, 2014
i guess ive never thought of 3rd person cameras as being inherently 'bad' tbh

like what about 3d mario games? seems just fine

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

are 3rd person camera videogames art?

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

TEAYCHES posted:

it never bothered me in mass effect 2 and 3. 1 was janky though

for some reason 3 bothered me. i'm not even sure if it was different than 2 but it just seemed a little too zoomed in.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Moridin920 posted:

yeah i love to see shepard's rear end waggling at me for hours on end

I've been meaning to ask you, are you in the 920 area code (because of your username)? Because I unironically am

Hobohemian
Sep 30, 2005

by XyloJW

Moridin920 posted:

yeah i love to see shepard's rear end waggling at me for hours on end

What about Tomb Raider?

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Moridin920 posted:

yeah i love to see shepard's rear end waggling at me for hours on end

thats why you get to choose the gender

Sponge Baathist
Jan 30, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Mass effect sucks

quakster
Jul 21, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

TEAYCHES posted:

are 3rd person camera videogames art?
yes. even moreso than other videogames

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Big Beef City posted:

I've been meaning to ask you, are you in the 920 area code (because of your username)? Because I unironically am

no, it's the first 3 digits of my zip

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

whats your PIN #

Otto von Ruthless
Oct 1, 2014

Moridin920 posted:

no, it's the first 3 digits of my zip

finally the last piece of information i need for my Moridin920 identity stealing op

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

mass effect was ok but i got bored and didnt finish it

IzzyFnStradlin
Jun 19, 2004
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: this sovereign citizen stuff might be closer to the truth than we are willing to admit.

Parallax Scroll posted:

mass effect was ok but i got bored and didnt finish it

you might call that a "critical mass effect" lol

Kakarot
Jul 20, 2013

by zen death robot
Buglord
Christ Roberts is looking to solve this in STAR CITIZEN

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I can't believe Star Citizen has been in development since 2011 and all they have to show for it is a ship combat module and an FPS module.

They've made over $73 million so far. It's unreal.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

All of that seems practical.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Yes go play Star Wars Battlefront loser.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Arcsquad12 posted:

Yes go play Star Wars Battlefront loser.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

IzzyFnStradlin posted:

yeah it's called "don't be a spaz newb and learn how to use the right analog stick mouse with some finesse" lol

ftfy

Prettz
Sep 3, 2002

i only play adult pc games so i have never once had this problem

Inevitable
Jul 27, 2007

by Ralp
video games are for children and shut ins, OP

Amarcarts
Feb 21, 2007

This looks a lot like suffering.
I've never read anything criticizing the camera systems in AAA titles. Are you saying that video game journalists are biased? Should we have a discussion about ethics in this industry?

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Inevitable posted:

video games are for children and shut ins, OP

well, guess what I am, dear poster Inevitable

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Amarcarts posted:

I've never read anything criticizing the camera systems in AAA titles. Are you saying that video game journalists are biased? Should we have a discussion about ethics in this industry?

You might be a yung one, dear child

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Long story short: yes, op.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

katlington posted:

Long story short: yes, op.

Thx, katlington, now I can sleep soundly tonight

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
I like 4th person view.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Waltzing Along posted:

I like 4th person view.

How does that work

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quakster
Jul 21, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Amarcarts posted:

I've never read anything criticizing the camera systems in AAA titles. Are you saying that video game journalists are biased? Should we have a discussion about ethics in this industry?
after a certain point an aspiring videogame journalist stops paying attention to the shortcomings of the input mechanisms in the games they play. when they do this, they reach a state called "too far gone" and they can no longer be considered a part of the human species

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