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Feranon posted:NFL blitz owned A Lot and I wish they'd remake it with modern players/graphics  They did
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NFL should have stolen the promo concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTDtVopmHBc
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The XFL was awesome and it was killed off by the NFL because they genuinely feared that Vince McMahon would take over football like he did wrestling. RIP XFL You were too good for this world.
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Don't forget that kickers were paid like $2000 per game played. The lowest NFL player gets like $500,000 a year even if they become paralyzed in the first game. Not as funny as arena football players that get $830 a game.
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When the first broadcast came on & the first guy in the crowd you saw was some wasted old dude in a Giant sombrero with a beer in each hand, I knew the XFL was gonna own. R.I.P. XFL.
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Yaos posted:Don't forget that kickers were paid like $2000 per game played. The lowest NFL player gets like $500,000 a year even if they become paralyzed in the first game. Not as funny as arena football players that get $830 a game. How dare the XFL not hideously overpay their athletes when they were just starting out! Athletes in most countries don't make even $2000 a game.
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My Q-Face posted:And also it was a Libertarian Fantasy: Players didn't get season contracts, they got paid based on how often they played, if they got injured, too bad so sad, the WWF/XFL doesn't have healthcare for its employees. As Atlas Shrugged's Box Office ought to attest, real people don't like that sort of thing so much. Let's be real here, no one quit watching the XFL because they disagreed with its labor practices
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burritolingus posted:How dare the XFL not hideously overpay their athletes when they were just starting out! Athletes in most other countries are suckers
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Smiling Mandrill posted:It could have worked if Vince would have given it a proper name. Even in the early 2000s the X- whatever bs was played out. Vince also should have distanced it as much as he could from the world of wrestling rather than trying to blend the two. That includes Vince not being on camera or really having anything to do with the XFL other than own it, and maybe present the championship trophy. The XFL was awesome though in its innovation. Many of the camera tricks used in the XFL were later stolen and used by the NFL. I also think letting the players have more fun, and freedom with their uniforms, and celebrations was a huge plus that would have brought in more viewers over time. The biggest problem was the XFL tried to be too big too fast and ended up looking like a joke. They should have sold themselves for what they were, played football cut out the stupid wrestling style gimmicks, and sold themselves as a fun less uptight version of the NFL. I don't think you quite understand who Vince McMahon is.
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raditts posted:I don't think you quite understand who Vince McMahon is. At least three XFL didn't have any McMahon incest or tales of Vince passing around his daughter to business partners Vince thinks people love that stuff
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comes along bort posted:yet college football is a multibillion dollar business College football is a well-established NFL farm league.
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raditts posted:I don't think you quite understand who Vince McMahon is. 
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raditts posted:College football is a well-established NFL farm league. student-athletes student-athletes student-athletes STUDENT-ATHLETES STUDENT-ATHLETES
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burritolingus posted:How dare the XFL not hideously overpay their athletes when they were just starting out! Athletes in most other countries play more than one game a week though.
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kinda regret not watching xfl when i had the chance
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^^^^ You didn't miss anything. I watched the first three weeks and it was basically them being completely unable to figure out what they were actually trying to do. There was a Mad Magazine comic about the XFL that summed it up nicely, but I can't find it. It was something along the lines of five cameras per player, including the cable-cam and a steadi-cam guy on the field.
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My Q-Face posted:It was certainly over-marketed. Like someone said, we're supposed to care about rivalries for teams that didn't exist two months ago? The XFL appearing in Arnold's "The 6th Day" as some kind of super high tech football league? atlas shrugged tanking has nothing to do with its politics. theyre terrible movies. likewise nobody gives a gently caress about player compensation what a weird thought youve had here
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My Q-Face posted:Athletes in most other countries play more than one game a week though. And they still make way less for more work. Meanwhile, teachers are underpaid and overworked. Good work, America.
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burritolingus posted:And they still make way less for more work. Meanwhile, teachers are underpaid and overworked. Good work, America. pfft teachers only work half a year 
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raditts posted:College football is a well-established NFL farm league. Yeah, but most of the "problems" associated with the XFL apply to NCAA so the reason it failed isn't what most people claim it to be.
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vince mcmahon is the george lucas of sports
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Sono posted:multibillion dollar educational institution If I'm paying a guy millions of dollars to beat people until they're retarded, I'd might as well send in a bunch of really well educated victims and make the bastard earn his money.
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vince is a smart guy. you dont get on the forbes billionaire list without being savvy. he entered a world he wasnt familiar with in football though and it showed.
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Blue Raider posted:nobody gives a gently caress about player compensation Bullshit, people don't put their kids into sports so their kids can break their bodies and make mediocre wages.
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My Q-Face posted:Bullshit, people don't put their kids into sports so their kids can break their bodies and make mediocre wages. Yeah, they do it so they don't have to deal with their kid for a couple hours a week.
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My Q-Face posted:Bullshit, people don't put their kids into sports so their kids can break their bodies and make mediocre wages. people get upset about college kids playing for free, now, in 2015. but nobody cares about post college semi pro players salaries now or then if anything its the opposite. youd be hard pressed to find anyone that thinks nfl players are underpaid. sure there are leagues other than the nfl but they dont exist in the public consciousness the only reason xfl compensations were as public as they were is so that vince could drive the point home that the players played for love of the game and you wouldnt find examples such as tom toms faggotry. you can agree or disagree with making the salaries public and love of the game and et al, but dont doubt thats why they did it. also these players were grown rear end adults, not some 18 year olds out of bfe nebraska. i suspect that the deep down idea was to treat the xfl like a farm league and in that case, the players were paid VERY well
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raditts posted:College football is a well-established NFL farm league. more of a NFL plantation league tbh
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WhyteRyce posted:At least three XFL didn't have any McMahon incest or tales of Vince passing around his daughter to business partners Reminder that the McMahon family are essentially just well groomed, college educated carnies and the kind of hucksterism behind the WWE and XFL are in their blood.
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Taste the Rainbugh posted:
Is this the game that only had one song on the soundtrack, and it was HERE COMES THE BOOM?
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Delsaber posted:Is this the game that only had one song on the soundtrack, and it was HERE COMES THE BOOM? That should be every game
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Taste the Rainbugh posted:
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Infidel Castro posted:BLITZ: THE LEAGUE II feat. Convicted Sex Offender Lawrence Taylor Buy this title with promo code MIKEVICK, get 50% off Nintendogs.
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Both the WBF and the XFL suffered from Vince trying to inject his ideas of Sports Entertainment into actual competitions, and therein lies the reason for failure. Also, the XFL was tinkering with the rules in the middle of the season, not a good sign. Question, I thought I remembered that in the XFL, punts were live balls once they touched the ground, but I cannot remember.
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PassTheRemote posted:Both the WBF and the XFL suffered from Vince trying to inject his ideas of Sports Entertainment into actual competitions, and therein lies the reason for failure. Also, the XFL was tinkering with the rules in the middle of the season, not a good sign. yea, no fair catches. coulda been a good rule if anybody formed strategy around it
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burritolingus posted:How dare the XFL not hideously overpay their athletes when they were just starting out! Athletes in most countries have universal healthcare though
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Because you touch yourself at night.
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Blue Raider posted:atlas shrugged tanking has nothing to do with its politics. theyre terrible movies. likewise nobody gives a gently caress about player compensation na its because of its politics, which is bankrupt, bitch idiot
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Delsaber posted:Is this the game that only had one song on the soundtrack, and it was HERE COMES THE BOOM? it was the only song that was needed
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eSports Chaebol posted:Athletes in most countries have universal healthcare though And those athletes are mostly in sports that are less concussion-prone.
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PassTheRemote posted:Both the WBF and the XFL suffered from Vince trying to inject his ideas of Sports Entertainment into actual competitions, and therein lies the reason for failure. Also, the XFL was tinkering with the rules in the middle of the season, not a good sign. There was the No Fair Catches rule, but I think someone got a massive concussion on one of the first plays so there may have been a Gentleman's Agreement on the part of the players not to cause season-ending injuries to each other, especially considering the Libertarian Utopia performance-only pay structure and lack of health care coverage. There's a reason the Fair Catch rule exists, and it's based on preventing injury rather than Making Football Boring as Vince et al. liked to think. I think they had a lot of great ideas for fan immersion which the NFL stole, like sideline cameras, in-game interviews, and I think the steadycam guy on the field was the coolest. But the XFL could have been successful as a spring football minor league, like the USFL before Trump got his grubby hands on it. I agree that Vince was the problem, his insistence on stupid promos and self-insertion as The Commissioner or whatever drove away football fans that didn't want wrestling storylines in their sports, and wrestling fans that didn't want sports in their spandex-clad soap operas. Any actual fans probably couldn't tell if the product on the field was also as fake as wrestling since the XFL was so closely associated with WWE. I don't think he understood that the drama is inherent to the sport itself, not WE LET THE PLAYERS DATE CHEERLEADERS! LOOK WE'RE OUTSIDE THE CHEERLEADER LOCKER ROOM WITH A CAMERA! Vince doesn't get that adding carny bullshit to a product makes it worse, I don't think any football fans think the sport needs scripted breaks where players suplex referees or whatever. Just about anyone else at the helm and I think the XFL would have survived. I want to know what happened to that sensor that made the hockey puck visible on TV broadcasts. It made it way more watchable. red19fire fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Mar 11, 2015 |
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