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Does Satan also have resurrection powers or is that forbidden to the evil cleric spell list?
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Mar 13, 2015 19:02
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Bicyclops posted:Does Satan also have resurrection powers or is that forbidden to the evil cleric spell list? Resurrection is a 7th level spell for all Clerics.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:13
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Resurrection is a 7th level spell for all Clerics. Wow! Satan must be able to cast at least 10th level spells, so I imagine he also has the power to resurrect. He also seems to have better manifestation powers and forms.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:24
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CommieGIR posted:Y'know, unless you are a starving kid in Africa. Or in the US. Or Anywhere at all. I got hepatitis C from drinking from the cup of a person who had it and probably had bleeding gums. I contracted jaundice, yellowing of the skin, a symptom of hep C and was diagnosed with it. At the time, it was an incurable disease. I prayed to Jesus for help and through miraculous intervention, the hepatitis went away. Today, my tests come back as if I never had it at all. This would baffle doctors. Mark 16:16. And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink of anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." It may behoove you to look to heaven for spiritual answers. 2 Corinthians 4:18. while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:47
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What if your prayers reached the Devil instead, though? Cure disease is probably like a 5th level spell, so he probably knows that one too.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:49
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Bicyclops posted:Does Satan also have resurrection powers or is that forbidden to the evil cleric spell list? Satan is not a giver of life. He is a destroyer of life.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:50
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Effectronica, Alternatively, the NDE is related to lucid dreaming, and involves the mind creating sensations. After all, it's only Christians who see Jesus in an NDE.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:52
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:I got hepatitis C from drinking from the cup of a person who had it and probably had bleeding gums. I contracted jaundice, yellowing of the skin, a symptom of hep C and was diagnosed with it. At the time, it was an incurable disease. I prayed to Jesus for help and through miraculous intervention, the hepatitis went away. Today, my tests come back as if I never had it at all. This would baffle doctors. No, it wouldn't It would never baffle them because we've always had treatments with 80% success rates and rarely it goes away on its own.
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Mar 13, 2015 19:52
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Satan is not a giver of life. He is a destroyer of life. Surely he wants people to live long and prosperous lives, so that he has more opportunities for temptation to seize their souls?
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Mar 13, 2015 19:58
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Bicyclops posted:What if your prayers reached the Devil instead, though? Cure disease is probably like a 5th level spell, so he probably knows that one too. I've never heard of the Devil ever curing a disease. I believe that the devils are not capable of doing any good.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:01
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:I've never heard of the Devil ever curing a disease. I believe that the devils are not capable of doing any good. Many stories involve the Devil exchanging long life or healthiness for souls, while God is more prone to test His worthy followers with disease or other torments. May I direct you to the book of Job?
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Mar 13, 2015 20:02
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Effectronica posted:Alternatively, the NDE is related to lucid dreaming, and involves the mind creating sensations. After all, it's only Christians who see Jesus in an NDE. What you say is theoretical and is a study of the physical and not the spiritual. Many believe that we are often times in the spirit world while dreaming. I've seen this be true myself.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:08
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CommieGIR posted:No, it wouldn't It would never baffle them because we've always had treatments with 80% success rates and rarely it goes away on its own. There would be signs of once having it as with hepatitis B. Yet there are no signs of me ever having it.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:15
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Many believe that we are often times in the spirit world while dreaming. I've seen this be true myself. Effectronica posted:Alternatively, the NDE is related to lucid dreaming, and involves the mind creating sensations. After all, it's only Christians who see Jesus in an NDE. Remember that confirmation bias we discussed earlier? ..... Enchanter Homnibus posted:There would be signs of once having it as with hepatitis B. Yet there are no signs of me ever having it. So how often do you run antibody labs on yourself. Obviously you've scientifically established this outside your own anecdotal evidence. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 20:15
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Bicyclops posted:Surely he wants people to live long and prosperous lives, so that he has more opportunities for temptation to seize their souls? That's funny.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:16
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CommieGIR posted:So how often do you run antibody labs on yourself. Obviously you've scientifically established this outside your own anecdotal evidence. Likewise it is not only the Christian who experiences the afterlife.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:19
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:That's funny. Not to the people losing their souls, or to Job, it isn't. Job wasn't laughing!
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Mar 13, 2015 20:19
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Likewise it is not only the Christian who experiences the afterlife. And yet mysteriously they don't all see Jesus smiling back. Some see nothing at all. Some see familiar things. Again, almost everything seen in NDE is directly connected to things the person has seen or discussed in real life. Its almost as if the BRAIN retains these things, and considering most hallucinations stem from the brain, its not entirely surprising that it happens. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Mar 13, 2015 |
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Mar 13, 2015 20:20
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If God really loved this copy/paster troll guy, he would have made him keep the Hepatitis C and also maybe some cataracts, like he does with his truest followers.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:23
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CommieGIR posted:So how often do you run antibody labs on yourself. Obviously you've scientifically established this outside your own anecdotal evidence.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:34
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Here is a photograph of the afterlife. It is of a spirit in one of God's very small chariots. hold on, when i get home I'm gonna load up GIMP with the biggest lens flare i can find and blow your loving mind 
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Mar 13, 2015 20:41
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I received a tainted blood transfusion of gammaglobulin (Hep C) when I was young due to Kawasaki's disease, but unlike the others who received the sample, I tested negative, so God also does not love me nearly as much he loves Job. I got the disease for children that makes your tongue turn into a raspberry and your skin turn into a horrible itching mass, plus I learned I was allergic to aspirin such that it causes my throat to almost swell closed, and I guess I was in danger of my heart having an aneurism, then the blood they pumped into me was poison, but, well, it got better, so I must conclude that Job is higher up on God's best friends list.
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Mar 13, 2015 20:48
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:I have blood work done on a regular basis. I believe it to be true, there should be signs of remission as their is with hepatitis B. If there are no signs, I believe that this would suggest supernatural intervention. Confirmation bias and coincidence. Sorry bud.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:01
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:I have blood work done on a regular basis. I believe it to be true, there should be signs of remission as their is with hepatitis B. If there are no signs, I believe that this would suggest supernatural intervention. God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:23
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Bicyclops posted:Not to the people losing their souls, or to Job, it isn't. Job wasn't laughing! Job would be in heaven as a superior being, for he has received his reward.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:28
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Job would be in heaven as a superior being, for he has received his reward. See? So if you really want God to bless you, you should have stayed sick, like Job! You've got to read that book you're always quoting, man!
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Mar 13, 2015 21:30
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CommieGIR posted:And yet mysteriously they don't all see Jesus smiling back. Some see nothing at all. Some see familiar things. Again, almost everything seen in NDE is directly connected to things the person has seen or discussed in real life. Psychiatrists are quack doctors. Not all things are hallucinations. You are listening to ignorant people.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:31
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Bicyclops posted:I received a tainted blood transfusion of gammaglobulin (Hep C) when I was young due to Kawasaki's disease, but unlike the others who received the sample, I tested negative, so God also does not love me nearly as much he loves Job. I got the disease for children that makes your tongue turn into a raspberry and your skin turn into a horrible itching mass, plus I learned I was allergic to aspirin such that it causes my throat to almost swell closed, and I guess I was in danger of my heart having an aneurism, then the blood they pumped into me was poison, but, well, it got better, so I must conclude that Job is higher up on God's best friends list. Would like some cheese with that wine?
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Mar 13, 2015 21:34
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Bicyclops posted:See? So if you really want God to bless you, you should have stayed sick, like Job! You've got to read that book you're always quoting, man! Mother Mary, blessed amongst women never had any recorded problems in her life that I'm aware of.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:40
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rear end in a top hat Businessman posted:God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance. Science is limited to the physical world. Let us not limit ourselves to the physical world when seeking spiritual realities.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:45
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Psychiatrists are quack doctors. Not all things are hallucinations. These are Neurologists saying this. And are you a Scientologist or something? Until you prove otherwise, they are almost certainly hallucinations.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:46
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:God had nothing to do with that. He gave humanity free will which pissed off Lucifer and made him rebel thus creating the devil who I am lead to believe by your religion is responsible for all sins and he is omnipotent I hate to break it to you but he is responsible in two different ways by your own lore.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:47
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:What you say is theoretical and is a study of the physical and not the spiritual. Many believe that we are often times in the spirit world while dreaming. I've seen this be true myself. Yes, theoretical. Yours is not even theoretical. Furthermore, consensus reality is only Christian if you're a Christian Scientist or a particular kind of evangelical Protestant. If you are not either, then popular belief does not imply truthfulness.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:49
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Time for some real talk, Homnibus. What are your thoughts on Deuteronomy 20, particularly the back half of the chapter?
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Mar 13, 2015 21:50
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CommieGIR posted:These are Neurologists saying this. And are you a Scientologist or something? It is the psychiatrist that writes the DSMR where the definitions for brain disorders and their symptoms can be found. We must not fail to see beyond the lies this world. Teacher we must move on.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:55
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:It is the psychiatrist that writes the DSMR where the definitions for brain disorders and their symptoms can be found. We must not fail to see beyond the lies this world. Teacher we must move on. Okay, why is psychiatry false?
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Mar 13, 2015 21:57
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:Would like some cheese with that wine? I just want to be loved as much as Job.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:57
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Enchanter Homnibus posted:It is the psychiatrist that writes the DSMR where the definitions for brain disorders and their symptoms can be found. This has nothing to do with NDE and chemically induced hallucinations caused by body conditions. And Neurologists are the ones who actually study how such things are caused within the brain, the psychologists interprets its meanings, not its functions. For someone sure God cured his Hepatitis, you sure are bad at even basic medicine. Effectronica posted:Okay, why is psychiatry false? Seriously, I'm waiting to hear this one.
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Mar 13, 2015 21:58
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snergle posted:He gave humanity free will which pissed off Lucifer and made him rebel thus creating the devil who I am lead to believe by your religion is responsible for all sins and he is omnipotent I hate to break it to you but he is responsible in two different ways by your own lore. Lucifer brought evil into this world but is not responsible for all the sins mankind. If this were true, man would not be punished. Man has the free will to choose whether to sin or not. And were he has failed, can be forgiven by the blood of the Lamb.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:02
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Bicyclops posted:I just want to be loved as much as Job. Job was put to the test. This test I believe is simply something that man cannot understand.
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Mar 13, 2015 22:05
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