Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW
think if we plungered all vaginas at birth to be inverse external vaginas, so easy to wash... you'd never get a yeast infection

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

DenizenKane
Nov 6, 2013

Please. Go on.

Stoic Commie posted:

actually we're just wrapping up, looks like no one here actually thinks you should circumcise anyone for non necessary medical reasons

I think people should be able to decide whether they want it done for themselves, but unfortunately the prognosis for circumcision gets worse after puberty, and 12 y/o kids aren't really the best decision makers

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
Just lol at the shrill dudes who get super upset about a minor cultural body mod that when done electively as an adult the vast majority of men find to be an improvement.

Mutillllaattiiooooonnnnnnn. No one is ever going to take you seriously because you sound like a deranged lunatic.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
great job all!

We have agreed child abuse is bad.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

Stoic Commie posted:

but if all these medical sites want to quote hygiene we should def start circumcising women more because drat that poo poo STANK
not circumcision just get some lysol up in there


the burning sensation means its working

CISMALES DID 9-11
Jun 5, 2002

chaotic good STEM major; INTJ
if the government made it mandatory and sweden did it you'd have thread after thread of goons being like ahh it's so progressive and such a good idea *strokes chin*

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW

ArbitraryC posted:

when done electively as an adult the vast majority of men find to be an improvement.

lol you just made this up. link?



i'm a competent adult male and i think nothing would be more of an improvement than chopping up my dick even though i don't even have phimosis, said no man, anywhere

DenizenKane
Nov 6, 2013

Please. Go on.

ArbitraryC posted:

Just lol at the shrill dudes who get super upset about a minor cultural body mod that when done electively as an adult the vast majority of men find to be an improvement.

Mutillllaattiiooooonnnnnnn. No one is ever going to take you seriously because you sound like a deranged lunatic.

I think the half-dick doth protest too much

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

that is pretty badass that her name is "hieronynous" or maybe "Her Ominous"

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW

gary oldmans diary posted:

not circumcision just get some lysol up in there


the burning sensation means its working

:captainpop:



and people don't think starbucks will be offering blowjobs in 100 years, sure

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW

probably just normal genetics because the parents must have a touch of the 'tism to make all these bad decisions.

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Stoic Commie posted:

lol you just made this up. link?



i'm a competent adult male and i think nothing would be more of an improvement than chopping up my dick even though i don't even have phimosis, said no man, anywhere
On my phone so kinda hard but last circ thread we had I did the not retarded and super obvious thing of Googling how men who got the procedure as an adult felt about it and the reviews were overwhelmingly positive including points like hygiene, sex life, and general self confidence when living in a country where it was standard.

Like if you want to say you have a problem with doing it without the kids permission I'm not really going to argue but the people who act like it'she even remotely on the level of female genital mutilation are the worst kind of reactionary.

CISMALES DID 9-11
Jun 5, 2002

chaotic good STEM major; INTJ
I'm going to become a baby and then circumcise my doctor

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

mods rename thread the dastardly dick debate tia

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
I'm all for cultural diversity and if Americans want to remove pieces of their genitals then I'm all for it.

I just think that they should wait for the individual to decide on the surgery instead of doing it to infants. Is this really that controversial in the US

CISMALES DID 9-11
Jun 5, 2002

chaotic good STEM major; INTJ
I have never spoken about circumcision IRL at any point to anyone and the only people that seem to really give a poo poo are uncircumcised dudes on the internet

so I just assume they're closet homos because they're obsessed w/ dudes dicks

thats about my level of care but these threads always have a BUNCH of penis dudes fighting for mens rights or something which I think gives me a little glimpse of how annoying it must be as a woman when dudes try to champion womens rights issues

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

Zzulu posted:

Is this really that controversial in the US
not really at all it never comes up

except on the internet and the internet belongs to the US :patriot:

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

ArbitraryC posted:

On my phone so kinda hard but last circ thread we had I did the not retarded and super obvious thing of Googling how men who got the procedure as an adult felt about it and the reviews were overwhelmingly positive including points like hygiene, sex life, and general self confidence when living in a country where it was standard.


"...Other men circumcised as adults regret the change.
I play guitar and my fingers get callused from playing. That’s similar to what happened to my penis after circumcision.
After the circumcision there was a major change. It was like night and day. I lost most sensation. I would give anything to get the feeling back. I would give my house.

Slowly the area lost its sensitivity, and as it did, I realized I had lost something rather vital. Stimuli that had previously aroused ecstasy had relatively little effect. . . .


The sexual differences between a circumcised and uncircumcised penis is . . . like wearing a condom or wearing a glove. . . . Sight without color would be a good analogy. . . . Only being able to see in black and white, for example, rather than seeing in full color would be like experiencing an orgasm with a foreskin and without. There are feelings you’ll just never have without a foreskin.
After thirty years in the natural state I allowed myself to be persuaded by a physician to have the foreskin removed—not because of any problems at the time, but because, in the physician’s view, there might be problems in the future. That was five years ago and I am sorry I had it done. . . . The sensitivity in the glans has been reduced by at least 50 percent. There it is, unprotected, constantly rubbing against the fabric of whatever I am wearing. In a sense, it has become callused. . . . I seem to have a relatively unresponsive stick where I once had a sexual organ."

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW
^^ lol it's horrible we live in a country where everyone lets this inquisition level of mass misinformation slide

ArbitraryC posted:

On my phone so kinda hard but last circ thread we had I did the not retarded and super obvious thing of Googling how men who got the procedure as an adult felt about it and the reviews were overwhelmingly positive including points like hygiene, sex life, and general self confidence when living in a country where it was standard.

Like if you want to say you have a problem with doing it without the kids permission I'm not really going to argue but the people who act like it'she even remotely on the level of female genital mutilation are the worst kind of reactionary.

sounds like a bunch of subjective self image poo poo, like those men probably felt like most people that it was normal and normal people get it so they were like yay i want to be normal, since they lived in a country where it's standard.


did you do the not retarded and super obvious thing of googling how men who got the procedure as a baby felt about it, because cool if you want it done as an adult for whatever dumb superficial reason, but there are plenty of people out there who feel extremely violated and have genuine feelings of being mutilated over having it done without their consent. and it isn't on the level of female genital mutilation because when it's done to women it's some psycho in a basement or something, not because the men feel less strongly about what happened to them.

Stoic Commie fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Mar 11, 2015

ANGRYGREEK
May 3, 2007

If you meet the Storm Spirit on the lane, gank him.
i got lots of money and candy on my circ event, so I ain't complaining, no feeling of mutilation here!

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Zzulu posted:

"...Other men circumcised as adults regret the change.
I play guitar and my fingers get callused from playing. That’s similar to what happened to my penis after circumcision.
After the circumcision there was a major change. It was like night and day. I lost most sensation. I would give anything to get the feeling back. I would give my house.

Slowly the area lost its sensitivity, and as it did, I realized I had lost something rather vital. Stimuli that had previously aroused ecstasy had relatively little effect. . . .

The greatest disadvantage of circumcision is the awful loss of sensitivity when the foreskin is removed. . . . On a scale of 10, the intact penis experiences pleasure that is at least 11 or 12; the circumcised penis is lucky to get to 3.

The sexual differences between a circumcised and uncircumcised penis is . . . like wearing a condom or wearing a glove. . . . Sight without color would be a good analogy. . . . Only being able to see in black and white, for example, rather than seeing in full color would be like experiencing an orgasm with a foreskin and without. There are feelings you’ll just never have without a foreskin.
After thirty years in the natural state I allowed myself to be persuaded by a physician to have the foreskin removed—not because of any problems at the time, but because, in the physician’s view, there might be problems in the future. That was five years ago and I am sorry I had it done. . . . The sensitivity in the glans has been reduced by at least 50 percent. There it is, unprotected, constantly rubbing against the fabric of whatever I am wearing. In a sense, it has become callused. . . . I seem to have a relatively unresponsive stick where I once had a sexual organ."
Yeah as I said overwhelmingly positive, I'm sure if you look you can find examples of someone's dick getting infected from the procedure and becoming a eunuch but the majority of dudes said their sex lives improved.

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW
probably not the majority, highly doubt that



the fact alone that i google this and see a link for "men who resent being circumcised" and a facebook page for "circumcised men who do not complain" is a good sign you just shouldn't loving do it god drat

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Stoic Commie posted:

^^ lol it's horrible we live in a country where everyone lets this inquisition level of mass misinformation slide


sounds like a bunch of subjective self image poo poo, like those men probably felt like most people that it was normal and normal people get it so they were like yay i want to be normal, since they lived in a country where it's standard.


did you do the not retarded and super obvious thing of googling how men who got the procedure as a baby felt about it, because cool if you want it done as an adult for whatever dumb superficial reason, but there are plenty of people out there who feel extremely violated and have genuine feelings of being mutilated over having it done without their consent. and it isn't on the level of female genital mutilation because when it's done to women it's some psycho in a basement or something, not because the men feel less strongly about what happened to them.
These guys must have nothing else going on in their lives then I just don't get it. Like if you asked me point blank if I'd rather have had my parents let my decide for myself when I was older I'd say yeah, but overall its had a negligible impact on my life and there's really just no reason to care about it. Your dick isn't going to work any worse and there's some slight evidence of advantages to the procedure, anyone who lets it become some sort of huge thing in their life and tries to turn it into "I was traumatically violated" is just looking for problems.

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW
do you not understand the difference between objective and subjective. the psychological impact is going to vary for a lot of reasons



and ok try googling what women who've had both think, for some real comedy

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
as i understand it, apart from the ugly scarring the biggest thing with circumcision is that the penis gets less sensitive

Now, depending on how you choose to look at this it can either mean "diminished sexual sensation for man = bad" or "can last longer before climax, due to not being so sensitive = good"


Apart from extreme cases I dont think theres much else to it

CISMALES DID 9-11
Jun 5, 2002

chaotic good STEM major; INTJ
Somethingawful and reddit, the last bastions of freedom fighters looking out for your penis's civil rights

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW

Zzulu posted:

as i understand it, apart from the ugly scarring the biggest thing with circumcision is that the penis gets less sensitive

Now, depending on how you choose to look at this it can either mean "diminished sexual sensation for man = bad" or "can last longer before climax, due to not being so sensitive = good"


Apart from extreme cases I dont think theres much else to it


that's the joke, it makes you dick less sensitive, but it makes your dick head HYPERsensitive, because it's all dried out and the only nerve endings left in your dick are located there, so you are actually more prone to premature ejaculation



go watch some uncut dick porn and see how the girl puts her hand or mouth all over and around the head and the dude loves it and doesn't even react. see that with a circ'd dick he pulls back or flinches lol :feelsgood:

CISMALES DID 9-11
Jun 5, 2002

chaotic good STEM major; INTJ
yeah guys, go watch some uncut dick porn so you can rise to our level of education on this topic

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

heyo just wanted to pop into this thread to say uncut dicks are cool as hell i wish i had my foreskin

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW
yeah, do it, since all the words on google is just bullshit, might as well see it in action where it really counts

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I'm just against child abuse. If you want to cut off your own dick go for it. Don't abuse your kids though.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

CISMALES DID 9-11 posted:

yeah guys, go watch some uncut dick porn so you can rise to our level of education on this topic

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Stoic Commie posted:

probably not the majority, highly doubt that



the fact alone that i google this and see a link for "men who resent being circumcised" and a facebook page for "circumcised men who do not complain" is a good sign you just shouldn't loving do it god drat

Yeah because you're being a retard in how you search for information. Of course if you specifically look for negative stories you'll find them. I could google "gmos are bad" or poo poo about chemtrails and find all kinds of web pages that confirm gmos will give you dick cancer. If you look for neutral medical blogs and sites on how adult men who got circumcised by choice feel about the before and after its mostly positive stories with an occasional "they broke my dick" one like that other guy posted. I recall seeing some stats about it on one of the sites but I don't really feel like going the extra mile for someone who genuinely thought Googling "men who resent circumcision" was a reasonable way to get to the bottom of things and not just an easy way to fuel your confirmation bias.

Mr. Pumroy
May 20, 2001

CISMALES DID 9-11 posted:

yeah guys, go watch some uncut dick porn so you can rise to our level of education on this topic

you can pretty much guarantee 500 posts per minute if the thread subject is cut dicks

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Stoic Commie posted:

yeah, do it, since all the words on google is just bullshit, might as well see it in action where it really counts

"go watch this porn and read these words rather than trust your own experiences of having satisfying sex and blowjobs with your pathetic mutilated dong"

Ramsus
Sep 14, 2002

by Hand Knit
I wish I wasn't circumcised because it looks like you can jack off way harder. Also I bet if you're starting to bone a chick and you're both not all wet yet that it goes in easier. Better for raping I guess too.

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW
it's a complicated issue with a lot of factors that can vary based on an individuals physiology to begin with, the woman's physiology who they're with, her opinions and beliefs, your opinions and beliefs. and since it's impossible to regrow it not like circ'd guys can see it either way and form an objective outlook on where it's good or bad.


and imo if there's anything that's bad it's ambiguity, so don't do it

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

i dont think penis shaming is helping though. i'd give all of you blowjobs to improve your mood if i could suckin D is for ME

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
no but really do you guys need lube when you jerk offf

please i need to get to the bottom of things

  • Locked thread