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Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
The Devil on G-String is out on Steam. $13 for non-voiced, $27-ish for voiced. I once dismissed this game just by the title because I assumed they were using the modern slang meaning of 'g-string' and that it was just some mindless porno with a lot of g-strings but actually it's apparently a very intelligent and gripping thriller/mystery story and is very highly rated. According to this list: http://www.gamefaqs.com/top10/2781-the-top-10-visual-novels-as-voted-by-the-r-visualnovels it is apparently better than all the Key games and Umineko no Naku Koro ni.

I'd have to see that to believe it (Umineko is still my bid for best VN) but that's a pretty strong recommendation, and it's nice to have more mystery/thriller VNs.

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TheCoon
Mar 3, 2009

Getsuya posted:

The Devil on G-String is out on Steam. $13 for non-voiced, $27-ish for voiced. I once dismissed this game just by the title because I assumed they were using the modern slang meaning of 'g-string' and that it was just some mindless porno with a lot of g-strings but actually it's apparently a very intelligent and gripping thriller/mystery story and is very highly rated. According to this list: http://www.gamefaqs.com/top10/2781-the-top-10-visual-novels-as-voted-by-the-r-visualnovels it is apparently better than all the Key games and Umineko no Naku Koro ni.

I'd have to see that to believe it (Umineko is still my bid for best VN) but that's a pretty strong recommendation, and it's nice to have more mystery/thriller VNs.

I saw a bunch of (now deleted) posts on the Steam forums getting kind of pissy that Akabei Soft have cropped the original 4:3 images to 16:9 for this release. I don't know if the missing artwork is important or not but I'll probably hold off until somebody else buys it and does a comparison or something.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Getsuya posted:

The Devil on G-String is out on Steam. $13 for non-voiced, $27-ish for voiced. I once dismissed this game just by the title because I assumed they were using the modern slang meaning of 'g-string' and that it was just some mindless porno with a lot of g-strings but actually it's apparently a very intelligent and gripping thriller/mystery story and is very highly rated.
That's pretty funny. I did the same thing. It did occur to me that it might be a musical reference, but it seemed so unlikely in comparison.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

TheCoon posted:

I saw a bunch of (now deleted) posts on the Steam forums getting kind of pissy that Akabei Soft have cropped the original 4:3 images to 16:9 for this release. I don't know if the missing artwork is important or not but I'll probably hold off until somebody else buys it and does a comparison or something.

From the only review the game currently has:

-Because of the new aspect ratio and higher resolution, you see a bit more of the sprites (they're actually full-body, though you could never tell in the original release) and a lot more of the backgrounds. The event cgs are cropped just a little bit, but I went through every last one, and they all still look great--better, actually, at the higher resolution.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Getsuya posted:

The Devil on G-String is out on Steam. $13 for non-voiced, $27-ish for voiced. I once dismissed this game just by the title because I assumed they were using the modern slang meaning of 'g-string' and that it was just some mindless porno with a lot of g-strings but actually it's apparently a very intelligent and gripping thriller/mystery story and is very highly rated. According to this list: http://www.gamefaqs.com/top10/2781-the-top-10-visual-novels-as-voted-by-the-r-visualnovels it is apparently better than all the Key games and Umineko no Naku Koro ni.

I'd have to see that to believe it (Umineko is still my bid for best VN) but that's a pretty strong recommendation, and it's nice to have more mystery/thriller VNs.
I'd strongly disagree with that assessment, at least with regards to Umineko. It's a decent cat-and-mouse thriller with the usual sort of twists and but it's not particularly earth shattering compared to many of the more famous titles.

As for the title, it's a play on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMkmQlfOJDk

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Nate RFB posted:

I'd strongly disagree with that assessment, at least with regards to Umineko. It's a decent cat-and-mouse thriller with the usual sort of twists and but it's not particularly earth shattering compared to many of the more famous titles.

As a mystery game I'd agree that it's pretty par. As (massive series spoilers) the story of a girl who lost her family and must find the power to believe that they were good people despite basically everyone in the world (as well as some strange letters in bottles) telling her they were horrible. I found it amazingly compelling.

Thuryl
Mar 14, 2007

My postillion has been struck by lightning.
There was some talk about Sound of Drop earlier in the thread and I've played enough to feel comfortable reviewing it at this point, so in case anyone was still on the fence about it here goes.

You play as high schooler Mayumi, who's on a trip to the local aquarium with her best friend/implied potential love interest Himeno. The aquarium is the subject of many urban legends about eerie phenomena occurring there, and Mayumi's sister disappeared mysteriously there five years ago. When Mayumi catches a glimpse of a girl who looks just like her sister, she runs after her, becoming separated from Himeno and lost in the aquarium. Obviously that's about when things start to go horribly wrong, because there wouldn't be much of a story if they didn't.

The VN starts with a content warning about violence and horror, and some pretty horrible things can in fact happen to you and other characters, but the description isn't usually excessively graphic -- if you could deal with the level of violence in, say, 999, you should be fine. Some of the situations you find yourself in are genuinely unsettling, although occasionally the inherent silliness of getting murdered over and over again by malevolent aquatic life was hard for me to ignore. Seriously, everything in the whole drat aquarium is trying to kill you somehow, it's like playing a NES platformer in visual novel form.

While the game doesn't track which decisions you've already made for you, that really isn't much of a problem in practice: most choices either advance the plot or kill you pretty quickly, so you can just save at each decision point and collect all the deaths fairly easily if you want to. (It's worth seeing them: most of the bad ends give you clues of some sort about the nature of the situation you're in.) There are 27 bad endings and four "true" endings: two of the true endings are only accessible after you've already seen one of the other two, but the skip function is super fast and makes repeat playthroughs painless. It's a fairly short VN overall; you can get from start to finish in a few hours on your first playthrough, depending on how fast a reader you are and how thorough you want to be about collecting bad ends.

The writing and translation are generally decent, aside from a few typos. Between the shortness of the story and the fact that you spend a lot of it alone, most of the characters other than Mayumi and Himeno don't really get a whole lot of screen time or development, but the characters do all have well-defined personalities and make a strong impression when they appear.

The art and music generally do a great job of conveying the VN's mood and atmosphere, although as Getsuya mentioned there's no voice acting. Overall I'm pretty impressed with the game. At the time I write this it's 20% off for another 12 hours, so now's as good a time as any to, uh, take the plunge.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
That gamefaqs/reddit list is pretty hilarious in general. Why yes, I too think that Katawa Shoujo is the 4th best / most popular visual novel available in English.

Asperity
Jun 7, 2011

Alder posted:

Anyone else play Code:Realize/otoge titles? I want to pretend there more than 2-3 who care about this genre. Also, I'm a fan of the PS Vita for VNs as playing on PC always felt awkward with reading long texts.

I'm enjoying Code:Realize except for the consistent misspelling of "mademoiselle." Other than that, the translation seems fine.

The Vita is pretty much the best thing ever for VNs, to the point I'm considering buying a second copy of Amnesia: Memories so I'll actually finish the thing since it's so much more comfortable to cart VNs around to play on the bus or on breaks at work than it is to spend actual time at home in front of a monitor.

[Bought my Vita mostly to play Sweet Fuse. Worth it.]

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Asperity posted:

I'm enjoying Code:Realize except for the consistent misspelling of "mademoiselle." Other than that, the translation seems fine.

The Vita is pretty much the best thing ever for VNs, to the point I'm considering buying a second copy of Amnesia: Memories so I'll actually finish the thing since it's so much more comfortable to cart VNs around to play on the bus or on breaks at work than it is to spend actual time at home in front of a monitor.

[Bought my Vita mostly to play Sweet Fuse. Worth it.]

Amnesia is on sale for this week if you have PS+ too. I figured I'd complete it faster on my vita than PC/tablet too. Best handheld ever.

oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

Getsuya posted:

From the only review the game currently has:

-Because of the new aspect ratio and higher resolution, you see a bit more of the sprites (they're actually full-body, though you could never tell in the original release) and a lot more of the backgrounds. The event cgs are cropped just a little bit, but I went through every last one, and they all still look great--better, actually, at the higher resolution.

So considering beside Ace Attorney, Daganronpa, 999/VLR I only played Steins;Gate (absolutely amazing, 11/10), If My Heart had Wings (very meh) and Cho Dengeki Stryker (its amusing, 6-7/10), where would this fall? Now I do have Clannad kickstarted and I did put couple $ toward Muv-Luv so i can decide in the backerkit if I want to actually contribute more. Fruit of Grisaia did not seem appealing at all based on pretty much everything I saw.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

oblomov posted:

So considering beside Ace Attorney, Daganronpa, 999/VLR I only played Steins;Gate (absolutely amazing, 11/10), If My Heart had Wings (very meh) and Cho Dengeki Stryker (its amusing, 6-7/10), where would this fall? Now I do have Clannad kickstarted and I did put couple $ toward Muv-Luv so i can decide in the backerkit if I want to actually contribute more. Fruit of Grisaia did not seem appealing at all based on pretty much everything I saw.
It really depends on what you want I think; there's nothing inherently special about Devil on G-String really, it does what it sets out to do (cat-and-mouse crime/mystery thriller) in a mostly competent manner and if you're down with that genre you'll probably like it. If you don't you'll probably be ambivalent towards it. I'd subjectively say it's about as good as some of the weaker Ace Attorney games or 999, better than Danganronpa, and decidedly worse than either VLR or Steins;Gate.

E: Have you seen Death Note? If you liked that, you might like Devil on G-String.

Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Nov 7, 2015

oblomov
Jun 20, 2002

Meh... #overrated

Nate RFB posted:

It really depends on what you want I think; there's nothing inherently special about Devil on G-String really, it does what it sets out to do (cat-and-mouse crime/mystery thriller) in a mostly competent manner and if you're down with that genre you'll probably like it. If you don't you'll probably be ambivalent towards it. I'd subjectively say it's about as good as some of the weaker Ace Attorney games or 999, better than Danganronpa, and decidedly worse than either VLR or Steins;Gate.

E: Have you seen Death Note? If you liked that, you might like Devil on G-String.

Yeah, saw Death Note and found it to be quite good. I liked all of the games above so will grab it. Is voiced version a lot better?

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
$27 strikes me as a bit much to be honest, but I'm sure that if I bought the voiceless one I'd keep wondering "I wonder if this scene would've been better/funnier/more exciting with voices". Not that I remember the voice work being particularly superlative, other than the yakuza daughter (she's an ice skater, I think?) being a bit annoying.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

oblomov posted:

Yeah, saw Death Note and found it to be quite good. I liked all of the games above so will grab it. Is voiced version a lot better?

You can get the voices as DLC if you buy the voiceless version so you can always try it out without voices and then upgrade if you feel the need.

jellycat
Nov 5, 2012

it's a nice day
Oh… I didn't realize this thread existed! I actually have a place to talk about otome games and yuri games aside from Twitter now.
I wish I'd come across this thread earlier, when I was in the middle of actually playing a ton of them.

I bought Code:Realize and Norn9 because I want to support official English localizations of otome games, but I'm too busy drowning in JRPGs to play either of them. I'm hoping I can get around to at least starting C:R before the end of the year.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




jellycat posted:

yuri games

Please name some of these that are both good and not just fanservice, tia.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Junpei Hyde posted:

Please name some of these that are both good and not just fanservice, tia.

You're best bet is hoping that Kindred Spirits isn't terrible when it ends up on Steam, the only other ones I know of are either bad or straight up porn (and probably also bad).

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Sakurazuka posted:

You're best bet is hoping that Kindred Spirits isn't terrible when it ends up on Steam, the only other ones I know of are either bad or straight up porn (and probably also bad).

I'm reminded of the dude who tried to LP two porn games in a row, and got banned both times.

Also, thanks! I kinda figured pickings would be slim.

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

Yeah, he was doing the A Kiss for the Petals games iirc, an all-ages one of those turned up on Steam recently but they're straight up (pun intended) porn games and without that they're nothing but an incredibly generic story and literally zero choices.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Sakurazuka posted:

Yeah, he was doing the A Kiss and the Petals games iirc, an all-ages one of those turned up on Steam recently but they're straight up (pun intended) porn games and without that they're nothing but an incredibly generic story and literally zero choices.

I was legit surprised an all ages version existed.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Junpei Hyde posted:

Please name some of these that are both good and not just fanservice, tia.
Black Closet is good. But it's not really yuri, or a visual novel for that matter. It's a very gamey game that just happens to have some of that in it.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
I'm hoping they'll someday localize Hakuisei Renai Shoukogun/White Robe Love Syndrome because it is the best non-adult yuri game. They roped actual Japanese nurses into helping with the writing to get it as close to what actually working as a nurse in a Japanese hospital would be like, so it's equal parts medical drama and yuri game. I enjoyed the hell out of it.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

jellycat posted:

Oh… I didn't realize this thread existed! I actually have a place to talk about otome games and yuri games aside from Twitter now.
I wish I'd come across this thread earlier, when I was in the middle of actually playing a ton of them.

I bought Code:Realize and Norn9 because I want to support official English localizations of otome games, but I'm too busy drowning in JRPGs to play either of them. I'm hoping I can get around to at least starting C:R before the end of the year.

Welcome to the club :3:

I noticed there's a comm on Twitter too but eh I'd rather not.

jellycat
Nov 5, 2012

it's a nice day

Sakurazuka posted:

You're best bet is hoping that Kindred Spirits isn't terrible when it ends up on Steam, the only other ones I know of are either bad or straight up porn (and probably also bad).

I've only played the demo of Kindred Spirits but I enjoyed what I played of it! It's not all-ages, though…

Getsuya posted:

I'm hoping they'll someday localize Hakuisei Renai Shoukogun/White Robe Love Syndrome because it is the best non-adult yuri game. They roped actual Japanese nurses into helping with the writing to get it as close to what actually working as a nurse in a Japanese hospital would be like, so it's equal parts medical drama and yuri game. I enjoyed the hell out of it.

This game and its sequel are at the very top of my wishlist! I'll probably get around to playing them both next year. Hopefully.

Junpei Hyde posted:

Please name some of these that are both good and not just fanservice, tia.

Aside from the games mentioned here, Flowers is really good. There's an English version of the first game due out at some point by JAST, too. It's a yuri game by Innocent Grey (Cartagra and Kara no Shojo) with a light mystery flavor to it. The art is gorgeous and the characters and the way their relationships progress (not just as girlfriends, but also as friends) are very well-written. I'm worried how much of that will survive the translation, but… we'll see.

I can't vouch for much more than that just yet because I've only just gotten into playing Japanese language visual novels myself so I'm still trying to get up to speed, but I've heard good things about Akai Ito as well.

EDIT:

While I'm editing things: Yoru no Nai Kuni is not a visual novel, but it IS very good yuri that's sort of so-so as a game, and the PS4 version is coming out in the US/Europe as Nights of Azure. It's maybe the only non-visual novel yuri game I can think of, which is why I figured I'd go ahead and mention that here anyway.

Alder posted:

Welcome to the club :3:

I noticed there's a comm on Twitter too but eh I'd rather not.

Aw, thanks, I'm glad to be here! There are some good places in the Twitter otome game community, but I can understand why you might want to shy away from parts of it.

jellycat fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 7, 2015

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




jellycat posted:

Aside from the games mentioned here, Flowers is really good. There's an English version of the first game due out at some point by JAST, too. It's a yuri game by Innocent Grey (Cartagra and Kara no Shojo) with a light mystery flavor to it. The art is gorgeous and the characters and the way their relationships progress (not just as girlfriends, but also as friends) are very well-written. I'm worried how much of that will survive the translation, but… we'll see.

Thanks. Is this all ages or not, though?

jellycat
Nov 5, 2012

it's a nice day

Junpei Hyde posted:

Thanks. Is this all ages or not, though?

There's a little bit of fanservice-y stuff here and there, but it's all-ages!

John Lee
Mar 2, 2013

A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Yuri is for GIRLS and GIRLY MEN, everyone here should play OMGWTFOTL if you want a REAL manly game.


On the subject of Devil on the G-String, I thought the main path was really good. The side paths just kind of forget about the mobsters and murders, at least somewhat, but the main story was pretty great.
Also, it's kind of a shame they cut out the sex scenes. Not for the porn, but because there were a couple goofy parts that made me smile. There was at least one time I busted out laughing in the fan translation.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

jellycat posted:

Aside from the games mentioned here, Flowers is really good. There's an English version of the first game due out at some point by JAST, too. It's a yuri game by Innocent Grey (Cartagra and Kara no Shojo) with a light mystery flavor to it. The art is gorgeous and the characters and the way their relationships progress (not just as girlfriends, but also as friends) are very well-written. I'm worried how much of that will survive the translation, but… we'll see.


I actually played that in Japanese and wrote a (sort of) in-depth review of it here: http://forums.fuwanovel.net/blogs/entry/637-flowers-le-volume-sur-printemps/

Edit: I've only played the first one, though. And I think there will be 4, if they continue with the season naming theme.

jellycat
Nov 5, 2012

it's a nice day

Getsuya posted:

I actually played that in Japanese and wrote a (sort of) in-depth review of it here: http://forums.fuwanovel.net/blogs/entry/637-flowers-le-volume-sur-printemps/

Edit: I've only played the first one, though. And I think there will be 4, if they continue with the season naming theme.

Haha, the complaint about the writer's cliches is spot-on. The first couple of times that character was described with a "teasing, catty smile" I was like "yes, this is right", and then that came up eeeeeevery single time she was mentioned.
I own the second game but I wanted to put a little bit of time between it and the first one and now I'm swamped with other games. I definitely plan on finishing it before the third one comes out, though.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
As someone who could count the number of visual novels he's played on one hand, this euphemistic redefinition of "all-ages" is so frustrating to me. Not that people use it, but that it's necessary. I hate that porn is so ingrained in this medium. I hate that these developers can't ever be trusted to use sex responsibly. I hate that even when they cut all the nudity, there's so often so much gross poo poo left over.

Between that and all the translation and distribution poo poo, it makes me not want to bother with visual novels at all.

jellycat
Nov 5, 2012

it's a nice day
That's why I mostly only play otome games, which are generally not porn (except the ones that are, but most of those aren't very good). Also because I'm a girl and I like hot anime guys and cute girls.

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013
That's why I only played console VNs. The ports tended to be pretty sterilized and the console-only games tended to be pretty darn tame (and usually based on anime I liked).

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

jellycat posted:


Aw, thanks, I'm glad to be here! There are some good places in the Twitter otome game community, but I can understand why you might want to shy away from parts of it.

It's more about Twitter than anything specific. I follow people but mostly since they don't have a blog :11tea:

FractalSandwich posted:


Between that and all the translation and distribution poo poo, it makes me not want to bother with video games at all.

I see where you're coming from but it's closer to a problem wrt to all video games overall. Yes, there's ton of creepy VNs and despite trying to avoid them they just won't go away.

Reminds me, when I met someone who is defensive about H-games :aaa:

Violet_Sky
Dec 5, 2011



Fun Shoe
Are VN's any good on Android?

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

Alder posted:

I see where you're coming from but it's closer to a problem wrt to all video games overall. Yes, there's ton of creepy VNs and despite trying to avoid them they just won't go away.
I'm not going to claim that video games aren't broadly sexist and it isn't a huge problem, because they are, and it is. But I think it's pretty disingenuous to try to say that visual novels don't have it far, far worse than average. No other sector of the medium except fighting games is anywhere near as bad about it.

Asperity
Jun 7, 2011

FractalSandwich posted:

I'm not going to claim that video games aren't broadly sexist and it isn't a huge problem, because they are, and it is. But I think it's pretty disingenuous to try to say that visual novels don't have it far, far worse than average. No other sector of the medium except fighting games is anywhere near as bad about it.

Definitely, but visual novels can also be some of the very best at not being awful. Pretty much anything from, say, Hanako or Christine Love is only going to provide the good kind of cringing.

Amaryllis
Aug 14, 2007

Nobody makes a fool out of Rohan Kishibe!
I'm glad I found this thread! My Vita is slowly becoming a little VN box.

Alder posted:

I own Amnesia but I find that the protagonist is too passive in the story so it's been a slow progress. Otomate (branch of Idea Factory) is one of the better VN devs as a majority of otoge tend to vary in quality from Not Bad to idek. Although, there's mobile games but they are considerably more expensive for story stories/scenes and I don't recommend them.

Could you elaborate on Amnesia? I see it's on sale on the PSN this week--is it worth giving a shot for $18 despite the bland protagonist, or should I spend a few more PSN funbucks and buy Code:Realize or something?

Getsuya
Oct 2, 2013

Amaryllis posted:

I'm glad I found this thread! My Vita is slowly becoming a little VN box.

Best part of the Vita in Japan was all the VN package editions it got. It seems like pretty much all the Vita VN ports are combo-packs with 2 games or the main VN and all its bonus discs/spinoffs. Plus you can get digital versions of a ton of the PSP ports. It definitely was THE system for VNs.

Too bad I no longer have enough free time that I can dedicate myself to reading through a 60-hour novel. And even if I still had my Vita I definitely wouldn't feel okay playing a VN in a public place like I did in Japan.

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Amaryllis
Aug 14, 2007

Nobody makes a fool out of Rohan Kishibe!
I wish we got those packaged editions in English! At this point, though, I'd just settle for companies still localizing any visual novels at all, what with the Vita being more or less dead in North America.

Getsuya posted:

And even if I still had my Vita I definitely wouldn't feel okay playing a VN in a public place like I did in Japan.
Tell me about it. I felt awkward playing VLR on a train once, and that's the tamest of tame VNs.

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