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seaborgium posted:You can get satellite requests from a country in Vanilla Enemy Within, though I don' think they're as common as you seem to be getting them. I think in LW you're a lot more likely to get council requests (may even be hard-coded to get a certain amount), so if you don't have any research they just ask for sats. One of the beginning France bonuses increases how many requests you get. Because almost every research adds new council requests with rewards, to make up for the fact you only get cash for abduction rewards, planning research around requests isn't a bad idea.
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Unfortunately the name Kaislioc doesn't have any clever secrets or set pronunciation behind it. I like your interpretation though. I was so worried there would be a "miss at point blank" moment. Shame about the exploding van. Fister Roboto posted:Ah ok. I only watched episode three because I'm a shameless narcissist. Would it help you with your narcissism if I said that you and Puukko naamassa have the best names so far that I can remember? There's just something magical about someone having to say "Fister Roboto". 
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Apr 2, 2015 08:35
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I hope to get the chance to watch these videos soon cause I love seeing people play long war. I think it's a really interesting mod with a lot of cool changes that just balens to be a bit too difficult for me to want to play through on my own. Feel free to name a SHIV after me if you end up using them.
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I've been here nearly five years and still people miss the second 'O' in 'Dragoon'. I'm almost impressed at the consistency with which it happens.
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^^^  I'll fix that ^^^ Youtube Link Bad Guy Showcase Thin Men Thin men are god damned dangerous, and they only get worse with time. Some leader perks include Lightning Reflexes, and squadsight (!!!). Their annoying ability is Acid (which I talked about before). In many ways the Thin Men are worse than later enemies. More Mechanic Talk Camera Angles Never mentioned this. Long war supports more camera angles. That's how I get the 'troops eye view' angles. It varies from directly overhead (F2), to horizontal (F9). Probably required as meld has more possible spawn locations. Meld There is no more Meld timer in the corner. This is because the Long War devs wanted up to 3 canisters on a map and the UI couldn't support it, so they just got rid of it. The meld timers work similarly to that of vanilla (some amount of time based on how far away it is). As with vanilla, completing the mission gives you all unexpired meld. Meld gives an indication of how many resources the aliens have. The minimum is 5 when aliens have next to no resources, and up to 30 (I think) when they have a ton of resources, so it sort of gives you a clue of the aliens' strength. If you grab a canister that has 30 in one mission, and in the next mission there is 5, there's something really big coming. This has nothing to do with alien research, but does affect mission difficulty, volume, enemy types, and mission types. Also, you get a fraction of a meld for each enemy you kill (I think its one meld per 5 enemies per mission, but some enemies will provide 1 or 2 meld for their death), but this is only the case if all the damage taken was through conventional methods (no explosives or fire). Veloxyll: I'm not sure what you're referring to exactly - on the monthly report countries names are colored differently based on the panic level. Canada's font is green because they have lower panic. I'll touch on worldwide panic next update, and I'll talk about Exalt when they become more relevant. ProfessorBooty fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Apr 2, 2015 |
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I guess sign me up as an assault. Make me american and keep my voice ever changing. I am the great melting pot.
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Ugh stop complaining about them saying "Negative Damage". It should be astoundingly clear that they mean "negative" in the military/word-clarity sense of "no" (as in they are basically as much the same word as "Alpha" and "A" are).
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Apr 2, 2015 17:51
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Might as well be another useless dude in your organization for people who can't aim.
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I forget, but I'm sure I read somewhere that actual accuracy, especially under pressure and extremes is actually really, really loving poor compared to what you'd 'expect'. But I'm sure I'm completely wrong.
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You know, you keep complaining about your lack of alloys, but I notice that shivs don't cost any to build. You know you want to play with the adorable little robotanks.
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FoolyCharged posted:You know, you keep complaining about your lack of alloys, but I notice that shivs don't cost any to build. You know you want to play with the adorable little robotanks. Patience, my friend. I'm going to try to make alloy shivs as soon as they're available, but things are going pretty darn well on the ground, all things considered. If anything you should teach my pilots how to aim.
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Haha, I'm a Chinese/Swedish expat! I love it! Congratulations to my brave squadmates, we Sort of a side question: I know Long War is still in development, but is Firaxis still working on EU/EW? I guess the game's a few years old now, but it seems like there are still some issues that never got addressed.
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Bloodly posted:I forget, but I'm sure I read somewhere that actual accuracy, especially under pressure and extremes is actually really, really loving poor compared to what you'd 'expect'. Absolutely true. Accuracy goes all to poo poo without hardening and experience. That's why cops shoot for poo poo most of the time, they rarely Take their guns out except at the range. The problem I have with X-com rookies is that the soldiers you get are supposed to be hard motherfuckers with tons of experience. Even though they are facing alien menaces, their accuracy shouldn't be as bad as it is.
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Deadmeat5150 posted:The problem I have with X-com rookies is that the soldiers you get are supposed to be hard motherfuckers with tons of experience. Even though they are facing alien menaces, their accuracy shouldn't be as bad as it is. Long War adds 'Cinematic Mode', which gives all your soldiers and aircraft +15% chance to hit. I figure most nations don't really want to risk losing their best soldiers to an experimental project, so they send folks straight out of boot to XCOM, and they even charge good money for these guys. Most of nations of Earth are really not interested in the XCOM project at all.
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If real soldiers could make kill shots on active enemies in cover engaged in a firefight with them 15% of the time they'd be the best in the goddamn history of war.
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  Youtube Links: Mission 8 Base Management 8 Moderate abduction in another urban setting. I sent the same people because they were off fatigue, and I need to start building up corporals.  Congratulations thejoshie in making Corporal! Thejoshie needs a code name. I thought of one, but I would like input from the thread.Lance Corporal Engineer Perks Holotargeting v. Smoke Grenade v. Sapper Sapper is one of the Engineer's defining perks. Sapper makes explosive grenades more likely to destroy cover, a must for the early game. Smoke grenade is a good perk if you want more sources of smoke. Some people take Sapper, then other support perks, but I'm not the fan of the 'Jack of all trades' Engineer. I miss having smoke grenades. Holotargeting is a weird perk on Engineers, given the rest of the tree. Honestly, I wouldn't bother with this perk, but it may not be a bad idea to spec an Engineer with holotargeting if you don't have other sources of holotargeting. If you want to go support with no smoke, and no sapper, then holotargeting is always handy. I lean toward support engineers, but blowing up cover is almost vital for the early game, especially as I'm getting late scopes and laser weapons. Bad Guy Showcase Seekers Seekers seem like they're less likely to go stealth in Long War, their AI has been unleashed more or less - from what I understand in vanilla, seekers were forbidden from strangling multiple soldiers at a time (I may be wrong). In Long War they can be especially dangerous if they're smart, and decide to strangle multiple soldiers at once (I had 4 soldiers strangled at once. It was stressful). They are another form of flying, high DR enemy. Tactics don't differ too much from vanilla, you can have an overwatch party, grenade where you think they are, or use battlescanners to reveal them. ProfessorBooty fucked around with this message at 22:55 on May 5, 2015 |
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You know, watching over this most recent episode, I do have a query about this mod - but it isn't something that has been shown in this LP; Namely, when is or how can you tell when your about to have the base invasion in Long War? And how do you organise yer troops in preperation for it? I don't want to end up with my trousers down, as it were.
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Dang it Also as a codename for thejoshie, there can be only one. Corporal 'Juicebox' thejoshie Evil Kit fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 16:48
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I wanted to suggest "Pretty Good", butSaffronKit posted:Dang it This is perfect.
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SaffronKit posted:Dang it Scout/Snipers are in a weird place right now until I get to squad size 1. Believe me, I would prefer, especially in March/April, to have a lot more missions than I've been getting and to spread promotions around more, but taking the time to build up Corporals is another priority. Samovar: The wiki does a semi reasonable job at describing the mission you're talking about : http://ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Missions_%28Long_War%29 . Just be attentive if you see an assault carrier.
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SaffronKit posted:Dang it Yesss
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SaffronKit posted:Also as a codename for thejoshie, there can be only one. Corporal 'Juicebox' thejoshie This gets my vote as well.
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Cernunnos posted:Maybe One big difference in LW is that sidearms no longer have infinite ammo. In fact, at the beginning, the ballistic pistol can only fire two shots before you need to reload. Sidearms also have the same long range accuracy penalty that shotguns do, so they're not any better for shooting.
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Cernunnos posted:Maybe Maybe, but if Juicebox can get the kill, I have no problem with her taking it. There's no wasted kills, except for when they're taken by max-rank soldiers.
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ProfessorBooty posted:Maybe, but if Juicebox can get the kill, I have no problem with her taking it. There's no wasted kills, except for when they're taken by max-rank soldiers. I think max rank soldiers still accumulate XP, and when they reach certain thresholds they get stat boosts.
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That's mission based, not XP based.
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Ah, well. Still not a wasted kill since alive aliens = dead soldiers.
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 Youtube Link This mission was loving tough, I was going to apologize it took so long but changed my mind. I was thinking of splitting it, but due to the stretched out nature I don't think it would be very good to do so. I added an annotation near the beginning to skip some of the tactical talk for impatient folks. As mentioned in the video, we lack the training to properly tackle a terror mission, mostly because we only have 8 missions total under our belt right now. Pressure is only going to get worse on the tactical side until we get more downed UFOs and Squad Size 1. On a lighter note, TomViolence is a corporal, and needs a code name!Perk Talk Steadfast v. Covering Fire v. Executioner Steadfast prevents soldier from panicking due to anything but psi panic. Covering fire allows overwatch fire to react based on enemy actions. Executioner gives +10 aim and crit for bad guys at 1/2 health or lower. Infantry make great overwatch specialists, and Covering Fire can make captures much easier and safer. Enemies also know how to go just into sight range to avoid getting overwatched, so covering fire can allow overwatch shots to proc on those guys. Executioner is a great 'statistics' perk. I used to take Executioner all the time. I try to make 2 Steadfast infantry, because of the bonus will, and the fact that steadfast can break panic chains. There's another reason I'll discuss another time. I'll make a couple overwatch infantry, and a couple 'damage' infantry, so all three of these perks can be useful. Steadfast v. Flush v. Close Combat Specialist I discussed Steadfast. The immunity to panic is pretty handy for a soldier who is getting hit, so this may be something to consider on a bio-tank assault, it also improves psionic assaults later. Flush is a pretty great skill in my opinion, but I have other soldiers that take Flush. Maybe I'll take it on an assault someday, but... 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The issue is that the aliens activate on your turn after you perform your last action, then they get their regular turn during the Alien Activity phase (this is especially deadly when you have turn 0 contact with melee aliens). Having turn 0 contact is rare, but I'd take the rare turn 0 contact over the other options. In prior versions, alien groups were almost completely randomized, and turn 0 contact happened more frequently. They fixed it so aliens cannot spawn in sight range, but that gave less room for the randomly generated groups, meaning you're more likely to have a multi-group activation. Finally they changed it so groups are more evenly distributed over the map, the side effect being that you're more likely to have a group at the fringes of your sight radius. It's possible to get a 'turn 0-like' activation even in vanilla. This happens when you end your turn in sight range of inactive aliens. They then proceed to take cover in their activation move, take a move to flank you, then shoot. It's cheap, and one of the many quirks of going with the 'alien pod' system that Firaxis implemented. Let's Talk about the Panic Tracker Instead of a 0-5 scale for council panic, we now have a 0-100 scale. Various things change panic levels (I'm doing this by memory, and I might have some slight errors): Things that increase panic - Any failed abduction mission - Some failed council missions - A newly created abduction mission - Successful UFO bombing missions - Uncontested UFOs - Shot down satellites - Some exalt sabotage - Terror Missions that result in any civilian deaths (A perfect Terror mission results in no panic increase. I've only done this once and it was by accident) - Terror missions that occur in a country that is part of the same continent (If a terror mission increases panic in Australia by 10, it increases panic in India, Japan, and China by 5) Things that reduce panic - Successful abduction missions - Successful council missions - Taking down an exalt cell - Shooting down a UFO - New Satellites - Fulfilling council requests - Base assaults Panic management can be pretty difficult at times due to the aliens' tendency to focus on high panic nations. The trade off is that you don't have to deal with the three 'choices' on abduction missions. Also, because an abductor spawns abduction missions, you can get abduction missions even in countries you have satellites over. Nations are likely to leave the council at 95+ panic, and are guaranteed at 100 panic. Bad Guy Showcase Floaters Floaters used to be a 'meh' enemy in prior versions. This is because they have surprisingly low aim (I think 50-ish on Normal difficulty), and would typically overwatch if they were pinned by overwatch or suppression if their chances to hit weren't that great. The new floater AI can be pretty terrifying, as they move more aggressively, and are more likely to ignore attempts to pin them using overwatch and suppression (their base aim is still around 50). They are also more likely to fly out of range, and come back on a nasty flank. There are some abilities that exist to help counter floaters, but in my opinion the best counter is shotguns and suppression. Starting abilities include Covering Fire, and later on things like Close Combat Specialist. Oh, and they also have (effectively) infinite fuel so they can properly patrol. ProfessorBooty fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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Goddamn, 0 turn activation? I feel like that's the most appropriate instance of  so far with the game loving you over before you even do anything.
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ProfessorBooty posted:On a lighter note, I am very much okay with "Wolverine." Also, thank christ I get to sit the next one out. That terror mission was insane.
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TomViolence posted:I am very much okay with "Wolverine." Also, thank christ I get to sit the next one out. That terror mission was insane. If you change it to Hawk, you can be Tom (a) "Hawk" Violence and embrace your inner axe murderer. Just sayin'.
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Tom "My Boy" Violence
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FoolyCharged posted:If you change it to Hawk, you can be Tom (a) "Hawk" Violence and embrace your inner axe murderer. Just sayin'. "A Hawk"
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Akratic Method posted:"A Hawk" I'm putting my vote towards this.
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Ooh! If you delay the mission 5 hours I can go! This one looks super safe and will obviously be a simple recon mission with no danger or complications.
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Holy poo poo that mission/map.  megane posted:Ooh! If you delay the mission 5 hours I can go! This one looks super safe and will obviously be a simple recon mission with no danger or complications. Good luck to whoever gets to go on the totally simple recon mission. I'm sure it's just a massive powercut with really bad timing and it'll be a great laugh. (The "intel source" is a fisherman that has been watching too much news.)
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