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 Spoiler policy: all 6 episodes have aired so everything is fair game, no spoiler bars needed. If you haven't already, you should marathon the episodes immediately lest you be "spoiled" by the news.  In the fall of 2014, Enter: The Jinx: The Life and Deaths of Robert Durst. Coming from Andrew Jarecki, the director of the Oscar-nominated documentary Capturing the Friedmans, this is easily the most compelling thing I've seen on television in years. As a kid who grew up watching Rescue 911 and Unsolved Mysteries, this is the best example of true-crime reporting I've seen since The Thin Blue Line. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPG9z9rHsc The Suspect: Robert Durst  The 6-part miniseries documents the killings tied to Robert Durst, a now-71-year-old man who was to be the eldest son and heir to the Durst Organization, one of the top five real-estate firms in Manhattan and managers of the Freedom Tower. Yes, that Freedom Tower. Victim #1: Kathleen "Kathie" Durst, née McCormack  Date killed: gone missing January 31, 1982 from Westchester County, outside New York City. Presumed dead. Connection to Bob: first wife. Three days before her disappearance, Bob turned down Kathie's settlement offer regarding a divorce. Victim #2: Susan Berman  Date killed: December 24, 2000 in Beverly Hills, California. Connection to Bob: close friend and confidant. Susan was found shot dead in her home, execution style, shortly before the New York State police were to interview her about Kathie's disappearance. An anonymous letter was mailed to the "Beverley Hills" police the day before her body was found. Victim #3: Morris Black  Date killed: hacked up body parts washed ashore on September 30, 2001 in Galveston, Texas, outside Houston. Connection to Bob: neighbor in an apartment. Bob had been living in hiding in Galveston as a mute woman named Dorothy Ciner, a high school classmate. Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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Welp, resubscribed because of you. Starting on this right now.
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Mar 16, 2015 09:46
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This is me during the last minute of episode 6:
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Mar 16, 2015 10:06
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All I knew about this guy was the news, now I'm watching all of this. What a bizarre and interesting case.
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Mar 16, 2015 10:14
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If this was a movie, the script would be thrown out for relying on ridiculous deus ex machina bullshit.
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Mar 16, 2015 10:42
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This is the reverse Serial and it worked!
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Mar 16, 2015 10:54
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I don't watch the news at all. So after the end of the series I just sat there like..... What. Then it rolls to credits. I needed more closure so I started googling around and it turns out that the end had made news headlines well before it aired. Too bad for you goons who watch both the news and HBO :-/
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Mar 16, 2015 13:09
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Also HOLY poo poo THAT ENDING
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Mar 16, 2015 13:09
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Windows 98 posted:Also HOLY poo poo THAT ENDING What the hell did I do? Killed them all, of course.
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Big Piece O poo poo posted:This is me during the last minute of episode 6:  exists for this reason. goddamn that ending
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Mar 16, 2015 14:19
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Steve Yun posted:Welp, resubscribed because of you. Starting on this right now.  It's very interesting to go back and read reviews after HBO sent the first two episodes to critics. From the managing editor of RogerEbert.com: I’m concerned after the first two that Durst is a man for whom there are no real answers, and I worry that some of Jarecki’s attempts to “pump up” this story with breathless anticipation of every twist and turn and overcooked filmmaking effects (I hate the credits) are setting the audience up for disappointment. http://www.rogerebert.com/demanders/hbos-the-jinx-the-life-and-deaths-of-robert-durst From New York Magazine's Vulture: I should stress again that I haven't seen the whole series, so there's a (likely remote) possibility that something could happen that will make me reconsider or retract my first impressions. But I should also say that Jarecki's Capturing the Friedmans doesn't give me much hope in that regard... if Durst had confessed on camera or something, we'd have heard about it already... And that leaves is [sic] with what, exactly? http://www.vulture.com/2015/02/interview-with-the-vampire.html From Grantland: Is this the same experience so many enjoyed with Serial? Perhaps. But it strikes me as TV business as usual. After all, Sunday nights have long been reserved in America as a time to gather around the set and watch rich, morally questionable men attempt to justify their behavior to both themselves and the larger world. http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/hbo-offers-up-miniseries-the-jinx-to-serial-addicts-hungry-for-another-hit-of-true-crime/ From the Washington Post: Even with all the intelligent window dressing, that’s really all “The Jinx” boils down to: another strange story of an American weirdo who kept a few unlucky small-town homicide detectives very, very busy. http://www.washingtonpost.com/enter...86a0_story.html Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Mar 16, 2015 |
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Mar 16, 2015 15:33
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Jarecki's interviews this morning with Good Morning America and CBS This Morning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmhzfROO1QQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD8lQJpH0CI
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Mar 16, 2015 15:57
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Easily the most mind-blowing television show I've ever seen. I nearly made a thread about it yesterday but I was too lazy. Also, small correction with Bob and his wife. I believe SHE had filed for divorce and HE had declined the settlement.
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Mar 16, 2015 16:05
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I can't get over the sound of his copious making GBS threads. What the hell did he eat? That's like a thanksgiving triple flusher right there.
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Mahoning posted:Also, small correction with Bob and his wife. I believe SHE had filed for divorce and HE had declined the settlement.
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Mar 16, 2015 17:00
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What did you do? *FART* Killed 'em all, of course.
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Mar 16, 2015 17:12
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What is it with great television and extremely dramatic moments happening while people are taking a poo poo?
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Mar 16, 2015 17:23
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I actually didn't care all that much for the show, which started out great but then petered out without a great structure. Their heart, unlike Serial, was in the right place, but I just couldn't see this going anywhere - at least from what had been shown thus far. And then the final episode happen. Holy loving poo poo. It's like zoologists recording something in the wild or some poo poo, capturing the pure essence of a complete loving sociopath talking in the most insane fashion imagineable. The great thing about this is that the best part of the show is perfectly captured in a five-minute sequence. Josh Lyman posted:
Maybe my memory is bad, but was there any way of watching the first two episode and not coming away with the impression that the guy was guilty as gently caress? 
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Mar 16, 2015 17:24
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:What is it with great television and extremely dramatic moments happening while people are taking a poo poo? When else has it happened? I can only think of Pulp Fiction, where Vincent is caught by surprise twice because he was taking a poo poo, and it's there to say he was figuratively and literally caught "with his pants down." But that was a scripted movie, and it's funny here to see God likes using the same joke.
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Mar 16, 2015 17:27
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Holy cap this was awesome! Wow.
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Mar 16, 2015 17:44
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Steve Yun posted:When else has it happened? I can only think of Pulp Fiction, where Vincent is caught by surprise twice because he was taking a poo poo, and it's there to say he was figuratively and literally caught "with his pants down." But that was a scripted movie, and it's funny here to see God likes using the same joke.
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Josh Lyman posted:Game of Thrones. Breaking Bad, too.
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Mar 16, 2015 17:59
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Both Fargo and The Americans on FX would qualify for that high-honor as well. 
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ufarn posted:I actually didn't care all that much for the show, which started out great but then petered out without a great structure. Their heart, unlike Serial, was in the right place, but I just couldn't see this going anywhere - at least from what had been shown thus far. I thought he was guilty of the murder in Galveston by the end of the second episode, but I was still a bit unsure about his wife mainly because at that point we had been led to believe the doorman had seen her come home that night and that she called into school the next morning. I think it wasn't until episode three or four where we found out that was bullshit. It really wasn't until they went in depth in the Berman murder that I was without a doubt convinced he did all three.
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As if this couldn't get any weirder, Jezebel is shipping Jeanine Pirro, the Westchester County DA, and Cody Cazalas, the lead investigator for the Galveston Sherriff's Dept: http://jezebel.com/we-ship-the-jinxs-cody-cazalas-and-jeanine-pirro-1691670670
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Josh Lyman posted:As if this couldn't get any weirder, Jezebel is shipping Jeanine Pirro, the Westchester County DA, and Cody Cazalas, the lead investigator for the Galveston Sherriff's Dept: http://jezebel.com/we-ship-the-jinxs-cody-cazalas-and-jeanine-pirro-1691670670 You read Jezebel, tho.
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Megazver posted:You read Jezebel, tho. 
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I cannot stand police procedural/true crime shows, and dreaded my wife turning this on, and then I could absolutely not stop watching this.
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I've watched this since the beginning and was sad there was no thread on it here. Of course, the weekend's events have changed all that. Holy poo poo that ending. I was ready to declare the series great even if it ended Serial style with no real new evidence uncovered, but to do a documentary on basically a murder mystery and then discover the smoking gun yourself? That's basically a fantasy. I hope there's a Season 2 following up on the eventual trial.
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Mar 16, 2015 20:48
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Yeah at the very least we need one follow up episode to go over whatever happens next. What a crazy loving ending I can't stop thinking about it.
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Mar 16, 2015 21:03
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There's going to be some fallout from how, in episode 6, they made it seem like Bob's violation of Doug's restraining order in summer 2013 is what compelled him to do the second interview when, in fact, the second interview took place in spring 2012. The narrative reason for this is clear: they wanted the second interview, including his bathroom confession, to be the final scene of the series.
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Mar 16, 2015 21:05
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Look at all these johnny-come-lately bandwagon jumpers.  That being said, 'The Jinx' has been one of the best things I've seen all year and the finale was chilling and unique, especially if you'd been watching week to week from the beginning. Go get your fuckin' shinebox, Serial!
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Mar 16, 2015 21:18
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TheRationalRedditor posted:Look at all these johnny-come-lately bandwagon jumpers. This show is a mere six weeks old
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Mar 16, 2015 21:23
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TheRationalRedditor posted:Look at all these johnny-come-lately bandwagon jumpers. You realize this thread didn't exist until like a day ago right?
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ApexAftermath posted:You realize this thread didn't exist until like a day ago right? People have been talking it up in couch chat for a while, it just never got a thread until now.
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qbert posted:I've watched this since the beginning and was sad there was no thread on it here. Of course, the weekend's events have changed all that. ApexAftermath posted:You realize this thread didn't exist until like a day ago right? 
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Mar 16, 2015 21:39
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Josh Lyman posted:There's going to be some fallout from how, in episode 6, they made it seem like Bob's violation of Doug's restraining order in summer 2013 is what compelled him to do the second interview when, in fact, the second interview took place in spring 2012. The narrative reason for this is clear: they wanted the second interview, including his bathroom confession, to be the final scene of the series. This is a pretty good interview, but yeah the interviewer confronts them directly on the timeline and they play dumb on it. http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/03/16/the-jinx-ending-robert-durst-andrew-jarecki/
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TheRationalRedditor posted:As delightful as that would be it's exceedingly unlikely because the wheels of justice (the arraignment hearings and court schedulings alone, before a jury trial proper) move at a universally glacial pace and these short 6 chapters are a culmination of over 4 years of evidence + interview collection. 'All Good Things' was completed in 2010 and Andrew Jarecki has said the first interview happened around then. It's a long, slow burn. It takes a lot of time and effort to put together such an excellent compact mini-series, especially with such a small crew. That would be really cool though. Also Durst could still like, die at any moment. Likely from belching-based asphyxiation! According to the interview I just posted, they've continued filming since the final interview and will continue to film. They said a bunch of people have come forward since the show premiered with stuff they've seen or heard or whatever. I doubt we get a whole season, but we will almost assuredly get a follow up episode or two.
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Mahoning posted:According to the interview I just posted, they've continued filming since the final interview and will continue to film. They said a bunch of people have come forward since the show premiered with stuff they've seen or heard or whatever. I doubt we get a whole season, but we will almost assuredly get a follow up episode or two.
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