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Mike_V posted:Doug Durst appears to be a complete slimeball so I see no reason to believe his version of the events either. The family also probably knew and didn't want to deal with the headache and clammed the hell up. He looks like the Penguin. The Danny Devito version.
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Douglas Durst put out this statement when he was arrested so I don't think he's going to protect Robert beyond making sure his family doesn't get any blowback. “We are relieved and also grateful to everyone who assisted in the arrest of Robert Durst. We hope he will finally be held accountable for all he has done.”
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Mar 21, 2015 01:01
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I rewatched All Good Things out of curiosity for what made Robert feel he had to set the record straight. I wonder now if he didn't like the "Malvern Bump" character getting credit for the "Deborah Lehrman" kill.
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Mar 21, 2015 01:19
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I hope they have follow-up interviews with some of the people featured, primarily Kathy's mother and Jeanine Pirro. Her "son of a bitch!" after being shown the letter in episode six was amazing.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:36
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Is the LAPD good for anything but wanton brutality? Jesus christ, a case breaking piece of evidence just sitting in her house that had to be unearthed by a documentary film crew.
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Mar 21, 2015 02:39
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TheChad posted:He looks like the Penguin. I see him as a chubby Jeff Goldblum.
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Mar 21, 2015 03:47
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Ummmm, Douglas Durst is Jon Lovitz. Sorry you guys didn't realize it sooner.
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Mar 21, 2015 04:36
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Just blew through the first 5 episodes in two sittings. Holy poo poo, the envelope  That gave me the chills, literally. This documentary is incredibly well done. Piece by piece, layer by layer... I can't stop watching. Andrew Jarecki should just dedicate his career to true crime documentaries like this and Capturing the Friedmans. That was one of those films that I have no interest in ever watching again because of the subject matter, but has always stuck with me because of how poignant it was.
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Mar 21, 2015 07:22
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Wait, so you haven't seen the last episode yet? You know how it ends, right? --- The other day my sister asked me if there's anything else "like Serial" out there.
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Mar 21, 2015 12:00
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Why hasn't this blown up like Serial did?
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teraflame posted:Why hasn't this blown up like Serial did? Serial was a free podcast which anyone could access. This is limited to those with HBO and those willing to pirate it. Plus, it took Serial 6-7 weeks to blow up, a timeline this show didn't have.
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teraflame posted:Why hasn't this blown up like Serial did?
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Mar 21, 2015 16:18
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All I could think of when Bob was talking about how he had a bunch of "important sounding titles" was Patrick Bateman in American Psycho.
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teraflame posted:Why hasn't this blown up like Serial did? what are you talking about, it did
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Krazyface posted:Wait, so you haven't seen the last episode yet? You know how it ends, right? I watched the last episode immediately after posting that. All I really knew was that he was arrested in New Orleans, I didn't know any specifics. I'm glad I didn't, because that finale was incredible.
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Mar 21, 2015 21:27
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The reveal of the letter is so powerful it almost makes you miss the loving dorky archer's bow and ninja sais mounted on Sareb's wall.
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Watched All Good Things last night. Terrible movie but may be worth watching if you loved The Jinx. It's at the very most a decent companion piece to The Jinx. The shameless name changes are some of the best things in the movie. Kathleen "Kathy" McCormick > Katherine "Katie" McCarthy Jeanine Pirro > Janet Rizzo Susan Berman > Deborah Lehrman And the oddest one: Morris Black > Malvern Bump
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ruddiger posted:The reveal of the letter is so powerful it almost makes you miss the loving dorky archer's bow and ninja sais mounted on Sareb's wall. Oh thank god I'm not the only one who thought that.
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Mar 22, 2015 00:47
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It was really off-putting that Bob would end every conversation with "Bye bye"
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Mar 22, 2015 01:52
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Mike_V posted:It was really off-putting that Bob would end every conversation with "Bye bye" On the contrary, I find it totally believable that a serial killer would end his calls with a creepy "bye bye"
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stuart scott posted:Is the LAPD good for anything but wanton brutality? Jesus christ, a case breaking piece of evidence just sitting in her house that had to be unearthed by a documentary film crew. Seriously. Oh, we have a letter and envelope written by the killer. Maybe we should see if the victim has anything with matching handwriting. Nah.
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User-Friendly posted:I hope they have follow-up interviews with some of the people featured, primarily Kathy's mother and Jeanine Pirro. Her "son of a bitch!" after being shown the letter in episode six was amazing. This was my favorite moment. it took her a beat to grok what she was holding, too. And then it's like, finally something someone can get him on.
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Mar 22, 2015 06:16
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Another recommendation: Not a documentary, but the Slate article last year about the woman who inspired the "welfare queen" stereotype is similar--full of weird twists, murky histories and creepy implications.
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Mar 22, 2015 06:31
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I just watched devil beards other thing Capturing the Friedmans on youtube and the hindsight on it isn't very great. Omitting interviews, co-defendants, majority of victims and what not.
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axeil posted:On the contrary, I find it totally believable that a serial killer would end his calls with a creepy "bye bye" I wasn't commenting on the believability of it. I said it was off-putting.
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I Am A Robot posted:Seriously. Oh, we have a letter and envelope written by the killer. Maybe we should see if the victim has anything with matching handwriting.
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I'm interested in how the original case was such a fuckup. He had to have help from his family/powerful father to get the police to lay off the investigation like that. And the doorman who reportedly said he saw his wife arrive home tells another investigator that he never saw her arrive. Was he lying or did he misremember or what? Also Douglas Durst should be in jail, I'm not sure what for but the guy is obviously guilty of some heinous poo poo.
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Mar 22, 2015 15:59
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if I remember right, the doorman seeing her was one of those details that Berman "leaked" to the press while they were trying to drive the narrative
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maniacripper posted:I'm interested in how the original case was such a fuckup. He had to have help from his family/powerful father to get the police to lay off the investigation like that. It was a missing person case at first, so their theory was that she probably just took off. In that era they wouldn't have been able to trace her whereabouts by cell phone records or anything of that nature. Also, didn't one of the advisers on Serial say that something like 40% of homicides are unsolved? I can't imagine the solve rate was better back then than it is now.
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Mar 22, 2015 19:10
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This isnt mentionned in the series at all, but Durst was suspected in at least two other cases of disappeared young women. The second was a strong enough case that Durst himself thought he was going to be indicted. Strangely all 3 women, if you count his first wife and her maiden name, had the initials KM. http://gawker.com/the-other-disappearances-connected-to-robert-durst-1691889568 Also, I have no evidence for this at all, but did anyone else think it was strange that according to Doug Durst, Seymour Durst died the morning after Robert went to the hospital to reconcile with him?
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Just finished watching this earlier today. It's very, very good though it apes Errol Morris' style from The Thin Blue Line very, very hard. That's a good style to ape, though. I guess what I come away from this is wondering what has actually changed. Before the letter and confession it was still incredibly obvious that Robert Durst was a psychopathic murderer (How anyone bought his explanation for the third victim is beyond me). It's great that he's been arrested again, though I won't be surprised should he walk away from a conviction yet again. Hopefully time will show otherwise.
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eshock posted:This isnt mentionned in the series at all, but Durst was suspected in at least two other cases of disappeared young women. The second was a strong enough case that Durst himself thought he was going to be indicted. Strangely all 3 women, if you count his first wife and her maiden name, had the initials KM. Oh god. Bob killed both his parents!
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axeil posted:Lawyers can still argue that doesn't mean anything because Bob's not a detective and couldn't really know that. update edit - yeah he almost flew the coop: quote:Durst, who appeared in court wearing an orange prison uniform and shackles, was arrested last week after federal agents tracked his cell phone, according to information presented in court Monday. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Mar 23, 2015 |
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Mahoning posted:I realize I'm playing devil's advocate and am being a bit Couldn't agree more about Doug Dursts character. Isn't this sought of an Occams Razor type thing? Let's be honest, it's a little far fetched to believe his dad just got one of his son's out of bed in the middle of the night to say hi to his mum before she jumped off a roof. That version raises way more questions than answers.
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but I don't think I'd believe a word that comes out of Doug Durst's mouth either.
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Another unsolved missing person investigation was just opened on Durst, seperate from the other two in California that I linked earlier. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/24/authorities-say-robert-durst-linked-to-171-disappearance-vermont-college/ That brings his suspected murder count up to 6 humans, 7 dogs, and a cat. edit: Counting Morris Black as one of the 6 even though he admitted to that one.
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I marathoned this in one setting and man, what a ride. I'm surprised people thought he was likable, he was mostly just full of excuses and came off as super callous. It until 5 and 6, when I saw how pathetic he had become, that I cared about him at all. Being shuffled away from his family building, getting arrested for feebly walking up steps, and not even being discussed by his brother made me realize that whatever power he once had was long gone. Which, while still riveting, took a lot of his menace away from him. If he was still a real big shot with the protection of his family, this wouldn't be happening.
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People said likeable but I think a more appropriate term was pitiable. He's a doddering old kook who speaks softly with an assortment of strange facial tics and a preponderence for gassiness. I think the feeling is better summed up that they want to pick him up and put him in a handbag, like an ugly pet lizard! Of course after that initial feeling it's good to focus on how his personality is a thin mask that has been cultivated by a life of wealthy entitlement, anger, disdain for others, and years of elusiveness. To seem as harmless as possible while being evil.
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I didn't pity him at all. It was clear from the beginning that he was a shifty liar, so I just saw him as a spoiled controlling rich kid who murdered innocent people to get rid of his self-made problems. You don't feel like being part of the family business? Boo hoo, go take your millions and do something else that matters. No sympathy there.
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It's not pity because he seemed innocent, it's pity because he seemed to weak and pathetic. A lot of people jump to assume that his crazy eye movements and blinking is proportionally indicative of his constant lying, but such cues are actually one of the least reliable physical indicators of deception. Much better ones are extreme roteness of stories that don't change between retellings or testimony (indicating extreme rehearsal after fabrication), and of course stumbling blank-outs where he freezes up upon getting asked something he actually didn't anticipate. He had nothing but decades to practice his cover stories exhaustively so you didn't see the latter too often, that is until the final episode - the envelope and note threw Durst for a loop and he was suddenly tapdancing on ice and faceplanted when he couldn't even tell Jarecki which signature he wrote. That's why he proceeds to castigate himself so thoroughly in the bathroom, because he thought he'd been bulletproof mr. cool ice up to that point and then it's suddenly "There it is. You're caught."
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