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I think it's human nature to want to try to like a person at first. And for the filmmakers, I assume they had more off-camera interactions with him where he was polite, perhaps even thoughtful. These new missing persons cases that are coming to light really change my theory of Bob. After watching this, I kind of felt like he just killed people who had become an inconvenience to him, like maybe he didn't enjoy killing itself but just saw it as a solution to a problem. If he was in fact picking up girls and killing them -- and at least the girl who disappeared from in front of his store seems pretty likely -- that seems like a whole different thing.
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I want more info on the Galveston case. Why didn't the DA press him for the location of the head? Did they run down that line of inquiry, even if he claimed he didn't come back for it (not sure exactly what statements were made about this in the show).
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Mar 25, 2015 19:57
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I've also been wondering why there were so few questions about the severed head. Then again, given how visually repulsive and chronically unlikeable morris black was according to everyone who knew him, maybe it's not a surprise that no one was too upset about it missing.  Still, that location of the gunshot was almost certainly why Durst managed to discard it into a trash compactor, volcano or something.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:30
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TheRationalRedditor posted:I've also been wondering why there were so few questions about the severed head. Then again, given how visually repulsive and chronically unlikeable morris black was according to everyone who knew him, maybe it's not a surprise that no one was too upset about it missing. Right... of course Durst won't want to give up the location of the head, and would have said he destroyed it (or maybe he really did destroy it). My point is, that should be a verifiable point in the story. IF the killing was accidental self defense (lol), and GIVEN that he admitted to chopping up and disposing of the body, then he should have no problem saying where the head was. The prosecution should press this since the head would betray his version of events as a lie. So he probably said he couldn't remember, or that he didn't go back for the head and can't explain why it was missing. But I do want to know how hard the DA went after this line of thinking.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:43
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It's very vexing that the shown trial footage didn't revolve around that question at all. I've just been assuming he made sure it disappeared because it's another gunshot in the back of the skull, like Susan Berman. There's no other bodies to support it but I have a hunch that killing his victims that way might be his MO because it's psychologically reflective of his detachment, disdain and feelings of superiority to the people who were "in his way".
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Mar 25, 2015 20:47
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Factor Mystic posted:Right... of course Durst won't want to give up the location of the head, and would have said he destroyed it (or maybe he really did destroy it). As if Robert Durst isn't drinking wine out of Morris Black's polished skull as he sits in his hidden butcher's room at this very moment.
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Mar 25, 2015 20:52
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Wasn't the only evidence that Durst took the head that the bag appeared to be slashed open? I think he could just deny that he took the head at all, and could just say he assumed it floated away. Or did he confess to taking the head?
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Mar 25, 2015 21:25
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It seems reasonable to imagine he might have been ready to dump it along with the other garbage bags and then had a sudden realization in the moment of disposal just how a floating head could implicate him if it were ever found, so he retrieved the bag and then did something else with the horrendous contents. If it was in the mix it certainly would've been found with all the other parts in that strong shoreline current (remember that none of the bags sunk so he had to reconsider his actions).
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Mar 25, 2015 21:31
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There was a point in the story where Durst mentioned that he went back to the dumpsite the next morning and got scared of being found out, as the bags never went anywhere. I forget what he said about the head but I was pretty sure he said he took the head then.
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Mar 25, 2015 22:12
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TheRationalRedditor posted:- the envelope and note threw Durst for a loop and he was suddenly tapdancing on ice and faceplanted when he couldn't even tell Jarecki which signature he wrote. Which is kind of funny, because wasn't Bob's whole point "They are block letters, they all look the same, how could anyone tell difference"? He should have just gone all-in on that theory and said "I just said they all look the same, why ask me now which one I wrote?"
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Mar 26, 2015 00:07
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So since Bob got arrested AFTER the last interview, I wouldn't be surprised if he was climbing those stairs to kill his brother. I wonder what was in that bag?
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Mar 26, 2015 04:54
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Grondoth posted:I wonder what was in that bag? A bridge, a boat, a wrench, a shovel...
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Mar 26, 2015 05:23
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He was just going to return some video tapes.
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Mar 26, 2015 06:05
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maniacripper posted:There was a point in the story where Durst mentioned that he went back to the dumpsite the next morning and got scared of being found out, as the bags never went anywhere. I forget what he said about the head but I was pretty sure he said he took the head then. Would such a bag float in salt seawater but sink in the lake he dumped the pieces of his first wife ?
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Mar 26, 2015 09:56
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Salt water is more dense than fresh water, so things are more buoyant. Man rewatching this I hope he brings that whole family down with him. That Private Investigator stuff is damning, they all knew. Grondoth fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Mar 26, 2015 |
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Mar 26, 2015 20:43
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Grondoth posted:Man rewatching this I hope he brings that whole family down with him. That Private Investigator stuff is damning, they all knew. Yeah it was pretty disgusting when ol Dougie got that award and the presenter praised his family values.
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Mar 27, 2015 00:41
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the great deceiver posted:Just binged through all six episodes; Bob didn't strike me as charming at all. Maybe in a superficial sociopath way but I really did not have a whole lot of sympathy for him. I don't think anybody has any sympathy for him, and maybe the only person in the world who did (the Mafia daughter) he killed. The guy's a creepy slimeball, but I couldn't help but laugh at some parts of the interview. Just the way he was casually talking about cutting up Morris as if he were telling some fishing story made me laugh out of discomfort and disbelief. And he seemed to lack all self-awareness, like he had no idea how hosed-up he was coming across.
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Mar 27, 2015 01:22
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King Vidiot posted:I don't think anybody has any sympathy for him, and maybe the only person in the world who did (the Mafia daughter) he killed. The guy's a creepy slimeball, but I couldn't help but laugh at some parts of the interview. Just the way he was casually talking about cutting up Morris as if he were telling some fishing story made me laugh out of discomfort and disbelief. And he seemed to lack all self-awareness, like he had no idea how hosed-up he was coming across. They didn't explain it in the show - but I seem to recall reading a huge part of the Galveston defense was a diagnosis that he has Aspergers. So the reason he will so calmly talk in detail about dismembering a body is because you know...autism.
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Mar 27, 2015 01:26
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How does he have a wife. And she had some loving attitude on here it was sexy as heck
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Mar 27, 2015 01:59
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rear end Catchcum posted:How does he have a wife. And she had some loving attitude on here it was sexy as heck He's obscenely rich
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Mar 27, 2015 02:05
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If literally all you cared about in a spouse was having a ton of money, and if you were able to keep all of your opinions to yourself to avoid setting off your murderous spouse's broken lizard brain, then I guess Bob Durst would make a good husband.
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Mar 27, 2015 04:44
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Did he and the second? wife ever even live together, I wonder?
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Mar 27, 2015 04:50
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Josh Lyman posted:"The Jinx" is a lovely name and, like Silicon Valley, great things on HBO often don't become mainsteam popular. Yeah it was "advertised" really oddly on HBO. I ignored it, thinking it was about some mob gambling informer or something. They really did a horrible job "selling" it. I only started watching it on demand because we couldn't find anything else at the time.
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Mar 27, 2015 16:48
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I think it works well enough thematically (If this guy isn't a murderer, then he is the unluckiest fucker to ever live), but yeah the title alone doesn't really sell the show. I wonder what else they could have called it? "Rich Old White Dude (Probably) Killed Several People: The HBO Documentary Miniseries"?
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Mar 27, 2015 16:53
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Durst did refer to himself as a "jinx" in the first interview I think.
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Mar 27, 2015 17:36
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Stare-Out posted:Durst did refer to himself as a "jinx" in the first interview I think. Yeah, it's funny that he thinks of himself as this thing that just "happened" to Kathie, like some force of nature that came into her life and made it worse. It's like the closest he really comes to remorse.
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Dear Sergio posted:Yeah it was pretty disgusting when ol Dougie got that award and the presenter praised his family values. The presenter specifically said that the family is known throughout New York AND NATIONWIDE as family values. Funny that the bolded part is what pissed me off the most. As if more than a handful people outside New York City ever heard of the Durst family NOT in the context of your serial killer brother.
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Mar 27, 2015 18:18
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Pinky Artichoke posted:Did he and the second? wife ever even live together, I wonder?
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Fast Luck posted:It was pretty strongly hinted that it was a sham marriage, basically if they're married she doesn't have to testify against him and he doesn't have to kill her. But what are they getting from the relationship? I'm not sure why they're together in the first place
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^If I were to guess, she gets to be obscenely rich, while he gets to have additional legal protection(husband-wife privileges and poo poo) and aid from a direction that wants him to keep control of family assets.teraflame posted:Why hasn't this blown up like Serial did? On top of everything else, I think it's because there's nothing to argue about and call each other names over. Serial ended with nothing really settled, you could still think Aidan was guilty or not guilty, could think all sorts of things about Jay, think about all sorts of ways stuff could've gone down since the podcast dove into those details and didn't answer them. That's kinda not the case here. At the end of this, the only thing to argue about is who sucks the most, cause holy poo poo there are so many people in here who suck. Robert himself, his Lady Macbeth new wife, "some people need killin" lawyer guy, bald juror, the whole Durst family who couldn't be more transparent that they know something but are just using their money to hide from it... that's a hard #1 slot to pin down.
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Mar 27, 2015 19:00
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I don't think Dick DeGuerin sucks. I think Dick DeGuerin is an awesome lawyer who did a great job fabricating a story to achieve reasonable doubt. I think if anyone sucks, it's the Galveston DA for not bringing more charges like something related to dismemberment, and/or running a poor case. I mean you can go ahead and not like criminal defense lawyers I guess, but if you have what had been described as an open and shut case handed to you and bobbled it, that's on you, not the defense.
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Mar 27, 2015 21:36
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Serial was also more accessible since not everyone has HBO.
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Mar 27, 2015 21:49
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Has anybody seen Jarecki's All Good Things? I'm curious about it since it was made before Jarecki had his "smoking gun", and I was wanting to see how he portrayed the facts and conjecture about the murders. Also Ryan Gosling.
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King Vidiot posted:Has anybody seen Jarecki's All Good Things? I'm curious about it since it was made before Jarecki had his "smoking gun", and I was wanting to see how he portrayed the facts and conjecture about the murders. Also Ryan Gosling. It's a bad bad bad movie. But still an interesting companion piece to The Jinx. There's a pretty wild theory that Jarecki threw in there that will probably throw you for a loop. It will fill in a few gaps for you though, but it is a very bad movie.
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Mahoning posted:It's a bad bad bad movie. But still an interesting companion piece to The Jinx. There's a pretty wild theory that Jarecki threw in there that will probably throw you for a loop. It will fill in a few gaps for you though, but it is a very bad movie. Since it's such a bad movie, would you care to spoil it since I don't really want to watch it?
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Mar 28, 2015 23:41
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I watched it a year or two back when it was on Netflix and the only thing I remember about it is 'Kathy''s brother is played by Nick Offerman sans mustache.
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Mar 29, 2015 01:02
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Frostwerks posted:Since it's such a bad movie, would you care to spoil it since I don't really want to watch it? I didn't think All Good Things was the worst movie in the world. It's sort of in the same zone as any half-assed biopic. The big crackpot theory in the movie is that Susan Berman was not a direct killing by Robert Durst but more of a murder-for-hire situation.
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Mar 29, 2015 01:44
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Basically, the movie says Morris Black killed Susan Berman and Bob Durst killed Morris Black to cover up that crime
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Mahoning posted:Basically, the movie says Morris Black killed Susan Berman and Bob Durst killed Morris Black to cover up that crime Alright that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard 
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