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I don't understand people's Gary/Kole slash fiction. It's unsettling.
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icantfindaname posted:The problem with steampunk is that it's impossible to be punk by adopting the aesthetics and cultural background of a classist, sexist, colonial and white supremacist society. The aesthetic can work on its own by its own merits, but trying to be subversive with it is absolutely incoherent. While I've never actually seen anything steampunk do it successfully, what you're proposing here is essentially that you can't be subversive by re-appropriating something that is the opposite. I think that's wrong icantfindaname posted:Nerds don't understand history, politics, or culture, go figure But this is right icantfindaname posted:The Bioshock games are all about insipid attempts at political and social commentary, yes? And so is this, though I think Infinite is more trying to pull a "the sociopolitical story we started telling doesn't matter, this game is about a guy and guilt and loss and memory" and just doesn't excel at it because the sociopolitical stuff is so jarringly weird So eh
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Apr 3, 2015 16:44
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steampunk people are like furry internet atheists. they're all dragons and wolves and poo poo, no-one's a cockroach.
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Apr 3, 2015 16:52
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Playing through Scholar of the First Sin: New .exe Edition I keep running into things that feel like BFSC wish list items. There are Heide Knights in Heide's! The Pursuer pursues you! They put something in those sewers before the Wharf! $20 is probably still too steep a price but I'm appreciating the graphical updates (especially since I upgraded my computer between now and the last time I played DS2) and I keep finding neat new surprises so it gets a passing grade from me. I'm excited to hear that episode when it comes around.
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Apr 3, 2015 21:36
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Hey I just wanted to jump in and say the last few episodes of Retronauts have been great listens. The discussion of both games that jumped the shark vs. games that faded away was a very interesting take on relevance of franchises. While I wasn't familiar with any of the Tiny Toon games outside of the Genesis one, that was an interesting listen and brought me back. Even if I watched them all in the later half of the decade and was more of an Animaniacs fan, that was a great show. The rare episode was great mainly for all the talk about their early games, I don't know much about microcomputers and European gaming so whenever that comes up it always ends up fascinating to me. Also, strangely enough it's hard to think of Mario World as being taken for granted, but with how in depth you went it really gets surprising how much they did so well on that game. After listening I decided I had to do a minimum-exit run of that game through the star road. By the way I don't know if I should post it, but a .pdf that Mario Mania Player's Guide is pretty easy to find for anyone who wants to take a look through.
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Apr 3, 2015 22:00
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Opposing Farce posted:Playing through Scholar of the First Sin: New .exe Edition I keep running into things that feel like BFSC wish list items. There are Heide Knights in Heide's! The Pursuer pursues you! They put something in those sewers before the Wharf! $20 is probably still too steep a price but I'm appreciating the graphical updates (especially since I upgraded my computer between now and the last time I played DS2) and I keep finding neat new surprises so it gets a passing grade from me. I'm excited to hear that episode when it comes around. Yeah, I'm finding that too. Rather than be bitter about it, I'm choosing to see it as a strength of the medium. Mistakes can be fixed. I'm really loving my Scholar playthrough, which is serving as brief break before more BLOOD.
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Apr 4, 2015 01:08
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Song For The Deaf posted:I don't understand people's Gary/Kole slash fiction. It's unsettling. "Don't understand" or "Don't want to understand"?
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Apr 4, 2015 01:54
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There are only two days left on those BFSC T-shirts and I can't decide! Ideologically I'm a Traps/Snakes guy, but I kind of like the Turtles/Pillars design better.
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Apr 4, 2015 02:18
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making GBS threads on cultures that have existed for thousands of years before their symbol is misused by propagandists, is severely hosed up.
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Apr 4, 2015 04:28
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The gently caress are you talking about?
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Apr 4, 2015 05:03
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TetsuoTW posted:The gently caress are you talking about? Video game podcasts have gone too far this time.
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Apr 4, 2015 06:05
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TetsuoTW posted:The gently caress are you talking about? I think he's referring to the WOFF comments about the swastika in Commander Keen. Technically the one appearing there is a manji (I hope to god I remembered that term properly), but it should also tell you something that a later patch for Keen V removed that just to be safe.
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Apr 4, 2015 08:30
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:I think he's referring to the WOFF comments about the swastika in Commander Keen. Technically the one appearing there is a manji (I hope to god I remembered that term properly), but it should also tell you something that a later patch for Keen V removed that just to be safe. Really? According to the creators, it was meant to be a Wolfenstein Easter Egg, not a Manji. http://www.shikadi.net/keenwiki/Keen_5_Easter_eggs And even if the devs intended it to be a Manji, that's misguided and they would have to know full well how it would be interpreted. Symbols change meaning and even if if the national socialist party isn't more important than that specific symbol, I'd argue that the potential misunderstanding is more important than Id deciding to include this little easter egg, which literally adds nothing and whose creators cannot claim any sort of cultural connection with. Whenever anyone argues for being able to use a swastika (or symbol that is guaranteed to be mistaken for one), it comes off as disingenuous. Or at least willfully edgy.
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Apr 4, 2015 09:45
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It is literally the only thing I can think of that he might be referring to. But yeah, if the top prong faces left, it's a manji, unless I've had this poo poo backwards for years. (My mnemonic: right-facing, right-wing) I'm not the family Buddhist, I just know enough to not stick my foot in my mouth at Thanksgiving. You guys weren't playing the Steam versions, I assume? Now I'm just curious whether those all use the "final" patches, which would mean that they lack that little detail anyway.
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Apr 4, 2015 09:49
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:It is literally the only thing I can think of that he might be referring to. But yeah, if the top prong faces left, it's a manji, unless I've had this poo poo backwards for years. (My mnemonic: right-facing, right-wing) I'm not the family Buddhist, I just know enough to not stick my foot in my mouth at Thanksgiving. I was playing the Steam version but it's possible Kole wasn't? I think he found the "easter egg." And my point stands, yes there is a difference but we're all adults and we know how something is going to be construed. This poo poo drives me bonkers. It's similar to people arguing for flying the confederate flag. I know it's not exactly the same since the flag is one symbol and has no old symbol for luck to be confused for but honestly, have some self awareness. Oh, and god drat context. Woffle fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 09:54
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I'm not defending it, for what it's worth. I was just trying to answer the question of what in the hell he might be talking about. It could be something Giant Bomb did for all I know, or maybe Thumbs? I'm behind on this week's podcasts, the Keen one is the only thing I've finished. And the Shadow of the Beast AS shortly. Because I need to do laundry.
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Apr 4, 2015 09:58
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Yeah I doubt id Software intended to put a Buddhist religious symbol in their video game about a small child's imagination.
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Apr 4, 2015 10:36
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Carmack, being prescient as he is, knew WoFF would do Commander Keen in the future and was trying to set up Kole a mention of the cycle of Samsara. From his time egg in the ancient future, he failed to account for Nazis. Only possible explanation.
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Apr 4, 2015 11:54
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Carmack's racist as all hell, we've been through this.
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Apr 4, 2015 12:09
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I own the Steam version, but that doesn't play on Mac, so I downloaded the version on Archive.org to play in Boxer. I definitely don't mean to be insensitive to any cultures, but I stand by my reading. I don't think there's anything "severely hosed up" about calling attention to it. VocalizePlayerDeath is acting like we personally tainted the symbol. If we were talking about an Asian developed game, I would read it differently. Looking into it further, there are quotes from the developers that confirm it was a reference to Wolfenstein. That's still a really thick-skulled move. Even the biggest id fan in the world is going to see a swastika before they see Wolfenstein goofs, because one is more loaded and fraught than the other. Song For The Deaf fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Apr 4, 2015 |
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Apr 4, 2015 12:35
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I wish I could find an example, but one of the great things about living in East Asia is that every few years some FOB writes a letter to one of the English-language newspapers complaining about all the swastikas around the place and how racist and ignorant it is.
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Apr 4, 2015 12:48
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Yeah, that's pretty goofy. Especially since it's a misunderstanding that can be resolved by stopping to ask a question or talk about it.
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Apr 4, 2015 12:54
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Gary, that is, uh. That is not how you pronounce "indefatigable". 
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Apr 4, 2015 15:42
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HMS Boromir posted:Gary, that is, uh. That is not how you pronounce "indefatigable". I think it's just an issue of my mushmouth. In listening back, it definitely sounds slur-y but that's not my intent. DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:I'm not defending it, for what it's worth. I was just trying to answer the question of what in the hell he might be talking about. It could be something Giant Bomb did for all I know, or maybe Thumbs? I'm behind on this week's podcasts, the Keen one is the only thing I've finished. Yeah, I didn't mean to call you out. I had a moment of genuine anger about this that was compounded by being sick.
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Apr 4, 2015 21:46
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The Navajo people chose to completely discontinue use of the symbol when they learned about the Nazi use of it. East Asian societies are more detached from the Nazi use of the swastika, but there's no valid excuse for any western developer using it for any reason outside of actual Nazis. Tangentially related by way of Buddhism: checking my deaths after completing my first Dark Souls 2 run, the pillar read 108.
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Apr 5, 2015 01:32
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Dear Zack: nobody uses GameFAQs anymore because wikis are immeasurably superior to a flat text file.
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Apr 6, 2015 01:49
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pseudorandom name posted:Dear Zack: nobody uses GameFAQs anymore because wikis are immeasurably superior to a flat text file. Sadly, not everything has a wiki attached to it.
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Apr 6, 2015 02:59
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The point I was trying to make is that it is getting harder in recent years to find information about video games in non-video form. GameFAQs was just my proxy for "text about video games."
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Apr 6, 2015 04:15
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zapjackson posted:The point I was trying to make is that it is getting harder in recent years to find information about video games in non-video form. GameFAQs was just my proxy for "text about video games." You only need to look to a recent release: Axiom Verge, to see that for sure. That's a game that could, theoretically, have pages and pages of text explaining secrets and other things, but there's only like, a thread on Neogaf and a single website with an incomplete map.
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Apr 6, 2015 05:00
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Reacean posted:You only need to look to a recent release: Axiom Verge, to see that for sure. That's a game that could, theoretically, have pages and pages of text explaining secrets and other things, but there's only like, a thread on Neogaf and a single website with an incomplete map. I think that has less to do with the modern times and more that it's an indie game on console. Bloodborne still has its usual info scraping in non-video form as before.
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Apr 6, 2015 05:03
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Reacean posted:You only need to look to a recent release: Axiom Verge, to see that for sure. That's a game that could, theoretically, have pages and pages of text explaining secrets and other things, but there's only like, a thread on Neogaf and a single website with an incomplete map. In the glory days of GameFAQs that your pining for, would there be a complete in-depth guide to a game like Axiom Verge six days after its release?
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Apr 6, 2015 05:05
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pseudorandom name posted:In the glory days of GameFAQs that your pining for, would there be a complete in-depth guide to a game like Axiom Verge six days after its release? There would be thirty different faqs consisting of the controls, walkthrough of the first 10 minutes, and 2 pages worth of unrelated notes and special thanks. RIP the cutthroat days of people scrambling to be THE faq by being out there immediately, regardless of content.
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pseudorandom name posted:In the glory days of GameFAQs that your pining for, would there be a complete in-depth guide to a game like Axiom Verge six days after its release?
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Apr 6, 2015 06:51
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Has the "Co-Optional Podcast" been mentioned in here? Its regular-ish hosts are Jesse Cox, Dodger and TotalBiscuit and its regular guests range from people within the Makers Studios network to game journlists/reporters. I find some of their stuff interesting because they usually go over the major news or games of the week after they talk about what they've been playing that week (some of this talk blends together). They do have regular gimmicks such as: Jesse making a fool of himself Jesse eating random candy fans send him from around the world Dodger eating her lunch mid podcast Various "shot firings" usually directed towards Tumblr The three hosts usually talking amongst themselves while their guest sits in awkward silence here's the list of podcasts if anyone is interested, and here is where the podcasts are usually aired, unless TB is either having technical difficulties or is not present for the day in which case they're aired here.
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Apr 6, 2015 07:14
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It's incredible how you sold me by saying Jesse Cox was a host, and not even three words later, completely unsold me forever by saying Totalbiscuit was one too.
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Apr 6, 2015 07:55
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What about when TotalBiscuit is having sufferability difficulties?
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Apr 6, 2015 09:20
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Captain Invictus posted:It's incredible how you sold me by saying Jesse Cox was a host, and not even three words later, completely unsold me forever by saying Totalbiscuit was one too. hey man, occasionally hes gone! usually whenever hes getting chemo though 
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Apr 6, 2015 09:26
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Luna Was Here posted:Has the "Co-Optional Podcast" been mentioned in here? Its regular-ish hosts are Jesse Cox, Dodger and TotalBiscuit and its regular guests range from people within the Makers Studios network to game journlists/reporters. I find some of their stuff interesting because they usually go over the major news or games of the week after they talk about what they've been playing that week (some of this talk blends together). They do have regular gimmicks such as: I'm not sure I would have recommended anything TotalBiscuit was involved in even before he became a de-facto spokesman for a misogynist hate group. Shut the gently caress up about having 60 fps and 90 degree field of view already, I get it.
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Apr 6, 2015 09:53
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Luna Was Here posted:hey man, occasionally hes gone! usually whenever hes getting chemo though
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I find it hilarious when people say they despise TotalBiscuit. It's kind of like the video-game podcast equivalent of kid's in the 90's saying it was uncool to support Manchester United.
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