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- Dolphin
- Dec 5, 2008
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by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Gutter covers are the right answer. When I was a kid I had to clean gutters too, but eventually my parents got that Gutter Helmet or whatever and never had to clean again.
just put a helmet on the whole house, like i did
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Mar 23, 2015 16:19
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- Saalkin
- Jun 29, 2008
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extend your gutters to funnel water into a neighbour's window
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Mar 23, 2015 16:31
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- red19fire
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Even groverhaus had gutters.
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Mar 23, 2015 16:32
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- I Am A Robot
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Mar 23, 2015 16:34
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- open container
- Sep 16, 2008
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please dig freedom drains op 
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Mar 23, 2015 16:36
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- ANAmal.net
- Mar 2, 2002
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100% digital native web developer
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Gutter covers are the right answer. When I was a kid I had to clean gutters too, but eventually my parents got that Gutter Helmet or whatever and never had to clean again.
having to help my dad clean the loving gutters twice a year growing up is exactly why i put covers on mine literally within a month of buying my house
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Mar 23, 2015 16:39
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- Applewhite
- Aug 16, 2014
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by vyelkin
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Nap Ghost
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spend an afternoon putting covers on your gutters and drinking beer on the roof, then never worry about it again
or dont live under trees i guess, either way you never have to clean a gutter again
Currently chopping down all the trees on my/my neighbors' property. Thanks for the tip!
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Mar 23, 2015 17:06
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- Tite Barnacle
- Jun 4, 2014
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Meowdy Purrdner
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Grimey Drawer
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OP, don't listen to anyone here, gutters are useless. I'll explain.
Many people believe that houses require foundations, but this is actually nonsense. Most homes are built with frames sufficiently strong to support the weight of the house, and therefore a solid concrete or block foundation is unnecessary. Furthermore, due to the materials and methods of construction, foundations are completely inflexible, and when the ground shifts due to natural settling or freezing and thawing, the blocks and concrete tend to crack and break. This eventually will lead to the collapse of the entire structure because the entire house is resting on the foundation. What most people don't know is that the foundation is the single most expensive structure in a home, and construction companies earn a whole lot of money by building them. So as you might guess, they have no desire to ditch the foundation paradigm. Old houses collapse, the companies get to sell you a new 20K+ foundation, the cycle continues.
Gutters are ostensibly designed to protect the foundation from the damaging effects of moisture. Because most roofs only overhang about 1.5 feet over the walls of the house, rainwater will tend to pool around the foundation, which will lead to the concrete taking in moisture and disintegrating. The gutter system is used because it really doesn't work well. Gutter seams almost always fail, and water will pool anyway. Leaves tend collect in the gutter, and this leads to pooling at the roof, which will destroy the roof of your home. Again, construction companies make a lot of money installing these pieces of crap, and when they destroy your house the construction company gets to sell you another one, with the knowledge that it will fail again in the future. There is no money in building lasting structures. A well built house has the following features:
1. No foundation. The ground should be leveled and bushes planted around the perimeter of the building. The bushes will ensure that water doesn't get under the house and cause rotting.
2. Joists built with pressure treated lumber. Pressure treated lumber will not rot, and is flexible enough to accommodate changes shifts in the ground underneath.
3. Build taller, not wider. Since the ground is prone to shifting, the smaller the footprint, the better the structure. A smaller footprint will be less likely to warp, and the best way to make up the square footage is obviously to build higher.
4. Fewer windows. UV light is damaging and windows leak significant amounts of heat. No windows is obviously optimal, I have none in my house.
5. The optimal roof shape looks like a mushroom cap. This shape of roof will divert rain away from the base of the house much better than a typical roof, and because it has a much lower drag coefficient than a typical A-Frame, it will be much more stable in the event of high winds.
6. The furnaces should be in the center of the home to keep the heat centralized. The chimney should be central, and should not extend out from the roof but rather should be inset to further lower the drag coefficient of the roof. Any rain that falls near the chimney will be blown out by the exhaust from the furnace.
7. No gutters. Gutters fail, and damage the structure. They're also ugly.
My company has been building houses like this for years, and I've never had a complaint. I like to make the exterior beige stucco, and I prefer red shingles for the roof, but those colors are obviously dependent on preference. This is an image of my house, pardon the bushes being brown, it's winter and they haven't grown their leaves back yet.
I think you will agree, this is the best house.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:22
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- Jastiger
- Oct 11, 2008
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by FactsAreUseless
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They exist for me to climb up there and get the leaves out as far as I can tell.
P awesome imo.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:42
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- West SAAB Story
- Mar 13, 2014
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by Athanatos(and can't post for 252 days!)
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I hate these drat gutters. When it gets windy here (30mph+ usually), the drat things will vibrate and make the most godawful noise. They're properly braced. Not much I can do but take them down. 
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Mar 23, 2015 17:42
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- GORDON
- Jan 1, 2006
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by Fluffdaddy
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Mine empty out onto little concrete troughs before ultimately draining directly onto the lawn.
You say "mine" but I think you mean "My parents' gutters where I still live." There's no way you have been alive for 17 full years and think rain gutters are just for... whatever stupid reason you said.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:45
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- Applewhite
- Aug 16, 2014
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by vyelkin
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Nap Ghost
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Update to the rain gutter situation: While hooking up the air compressor to blow the leaves out of the gutters, I became frustrated by the lack of a hole for a third prong on all the convenient outlets.
Why don't we just snip the third prong off all our plugs so we can just plug them in anywhere?
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Mar 23, 2015 17:47
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- Applewhite
- Aug 16, 2014
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by vyelkin
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Nap Ghost
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You say "mine" but I think you mean "My parents' gutters where I still live." There's no way you have been alive for 17 full years and think rain gutters are just for... whatever stupid reason you said.
The fact that my wife and I live in the same house as my parents is normal and natural (her parents' house was too small to move into). Multi-generational households are still very common.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:49
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- ArbitraryC
- Jan 28, 2009
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Pick a number, any number
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Pillbug
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Has someone made at "what is even the point of rain" parody thread yet?
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Mar 23, 2015 17:51
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- Foid One
- Mar 2, 2015
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by Ralp
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OP, don't listen to anyone here, gutters are useless. I'll explain.
Many people believe that houses require foundations, but this is actually nonsense. Most homes are built with frames sufficiently strong to support the weight of the house, and therefore a solid concrete or block foundation is unnecessary. Furthermore, due to the materials and methods of construction, foundations are completely inflexible, and when the ground shifts due to natural settling or freezing and thawing, the blocks and concrete tend to crack and break. This eventually will lead to the collapse of the entire structure because the entire house is resting on the foundation. What most people don't know is that the foundation is the single most expensive structure in a home, and construction companies earn a whole lot of money by building them. So as you might guess, they have no desire to ditch the foundation paradigm. Old houses collapse, the companies get to sell you a new 20K+ foundation, the cycle continues.
Gutters are ostensibly designed to protect the foundation from the damaging effects of moisture. Because most roofs only overhang about 1.5 feet over the walls of the house, rainwater will tend to pool around the foundation, which will lead to the concrete taking in moisture and disintegrating. The gutter system is used because it really doesn't work well. Gutter seams almost always fail, and water will pool anyway. Leaves tend collect in the gutter, and this leads to pooling at the roof, which will destroy the roof of your home. Again, construction companies make a lot of money installing these pieces of crap, and when they destroy your house the construction company gets to sell you another one, with the knowledge that it will fail again in the future. There is no money in building lasting structures. A well built house has the following features:
1. No foundation. The ground should be leveled and bushes planted around the perimeter of the building. The bushes will ensure that water doesn't get under the house and cause rotting.
2. Joists built with pressure treated lumber. Pressure treated lumber will not rot, and is flexible enough to accommodate changes shifts in the ground underneath.
3. Build taller, not wider. Since the ground is prone to shifting, the smaller the footprint, the better the structure. A smaller footprint will be less likely to warp, and the best way to make up the square footage is obviously to build higher.
4. Fewer windows. UV light is damaging and windows leak significant amounts of heat. No windows is obviously optimal, I have none in my house.
5. The optimal roof shape looks like a mushroom cap. This shape of roof will divert rain away from the base of the house much better than a typical roof, and because it has a much lower drag coefficient than a typical A-Frame, it will be much more stable in the event of high winds.
6. The furnaces should be in the center of the home to keep the heat centralized. The chimney should be central, and should not extend out from the roof but rather should be inset to further lower the drag coefficient of the roof. Any rain that falls near the chimney will be blown out by the exhaust from the furnace.
7. No gutters. Gutters fail, and damage the structure. They're also ugly.
My company has been building houses like this for years, and I've never had a complaint. I like to make the exterior beige stucco, and I prefer red shingles for the roof, but those colors are obviously dependent on preference. This is an image of my house, pardon the bushes being brown, it's winter and they haven't grown their leaves back yet.
I think you will agree, this is the best house.
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Mar 23, 2015 17:51
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- Applewhite
- Aug 16, 2014
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by vyelkin
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Nap Ghost
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Has someone made at "what is even the point of rain" parody thread yet?
Better hurry!
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Mar 23, 2015 17:54
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- Flyball
- Apr 17, 2003
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Why don't we just snip the third prong off all our plugs so we can just plug them in anywhere?
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Mar 23, 2015 18:38
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- WoodrowSkillson
- Feb 24, 2005
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*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*
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OP, don't listen to anyone here, gutters are useless. I'll explain.
Many people believe that houses require foundations, but this is actually nonsense. Most homes are built with frames sufficiently strong to support the weight of the house, and therefore a solid concrete or block foundation is unnecessary. Furthermore, due to the materials and methods of construction, foundations are completely inflexible, and when the ground shifts due to natural settling or freezing and thawing, the blocks and concrete tend to crack and break. This eventually will lead to the collapse of the entire structure because the entire house is resting on the foundation. What most people don't know is that the foundation is the single most expensive structure in a home, and construction companies earn a whole lot of money by building them. So as you might guess, they have no desire to ditch the foundation paradigm. Old houses collapse, the companies get to sell you a new 20K+ foundation, the cycle continues.
Gutters are ostensibly designed to protect the foundation from the damaging effects of moisture. Because most roofs only overhang about 1.5 feet over the walls of the house, rainwater will tend to pool around the foundation, which will lead to the concrete taking in moisture and disintegrating. The gutter system is used because it really doesn't work well. Gutter seams almost always fail, and water will pool anyway. Leaves tend collect in the gutter, and this leads to pooling at the roof, which will destroy the roof of your home. Again, construction companies make a lot of money installing these pieces of crap, and when they destroy your house the construction company gets to sell you another one, with the knowledge that it will fail again in the future. There is no money in building lasting structures. A well built house has the following features:
1. No foundation. The ground should be leveled and bushes planted around the perimeter of the building. The bushes will ensure that water doesn't get under the house and cause rotting.
2. Joists built with pressure treated lumber. Pressure treated lumber will not rot, and is flexible enough to accommodate changes shifts in the ground underneath.
3. Build taller, not wider. Since the ground is prone to shifting, the smaller the footprint, the better the structure. A smaller footprint will be less likely to warp, and the best way to make up the square footage is obviously to build higher.
4. Fewer windows. UV light is damaging and windows leak significant amounts of heat. No windows is obviously optimal, I have none in my house.
5. The optimal roof shape looks like a mushroom cap. This shape of roof will divert rain away from the base of the house much better than a typical roof, and because it has a much lower drag coefficient than a typical A-Frame, it will be much more stable in the event of high winds.
6. The furnaces should be in the center of the home to keep the heat centralized. The chimney should be central, and should not extend out from the roof but rather should be inset to further lower the drag coefficient of the roof. Any rain that falls near the chimney will be blown out by the exhaust from the furnace.
7. No gutters. Gutters fail, and damage the structure. They're also ugly.
My company has been building houses like this for years, and I've never had a complaint. I like to make the exterior beige stucco, and I prefer red shingles for the roof, but those colors are obviously dependent on preference. This is an image of my house, pardon the bushes being brown, it's winter and they haven't grown their leaves back yet.
I think you will agree, this is the best house.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:46
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- ItBurns
- Jul 24, 2007
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Update to the rain gutter situation: While hooking up the air compressor to blow the leaves out of the gutters, I became frustrated by the lack of a hole for a third prong on all the convenient outlets.
Why don't we just snip the third prong off all our plugs so we can just plug them in anywhere?
The third prong is useless and was designed to support wiring schemes that stopped being used in 1920s. Odds are that it's not even attached to anything. Companies include them because they're associated with being 'heavy duty' and convey a sense of quality to the potential buyer.
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Mar 23, 2015 18:47
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- .random
- May 7, 2007
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The third prong is useless and was designed to support wiring schemes that stopped being used in 1920s. Odds are that it's not even attached to anything. Companies include them because they're associated with being 'heavy duty' and convey a sense of quality to the potential buyer.
This is dangerously wrong. Please, for the love of god, don't listen to this idiot.
The third prong prevents dangerous levels of torsion being applied to the plug which can lead to a short, or, in some cases, an arc discharge which has been known to result in injury or death.
By way of demonstrating, one can plug in a standard 2-prong plug. Now rotate it clockwise, then counterclockwise (Important note: anticlockwise to our British friends). Notice how easy it is to "wiggle" the plug. Now remove the plug and insert a 3-pronged plug. Attempt to rotate, once again. One will notice how much more difficult it is to turn thanks to this "third leg."
This is also the same phenomenon upon which trains rely. You may have heard of the "third rail" on train tracks. This rail provides the same anti-rotational benefits as described above.
Mods, please edit the the post I quoted to remove dangerous misinformation.
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- Dead Gay Romans
- Mar 19, 2015
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I bought a new house in a kind of swampy part of Virginia a few months ago and one of my first tasks after moving in was to put up gutters. So I'm up on the roof installing them when one my my new neighbors comes on over, a real goofy looking dude. He offers to lend me a hand. Guy says he's an engineer and has a lot of DIY experience, so I say sure, come on up, why not meet the neighbors.
He immediately starts smashing holes into the roof straight through the ceiling and when I start yelling at him he got all pissed and confused and asked me how else I planned to run up the wires for the gutter outlets.
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