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What the hell are you doing? Hamlet, written by William Shakespeare, is among the most famous plays of all time. A Western tragedy written around the year 1600 and set in Denmark, it is an excellent play that has inspired writers, artists, and filmmakers for hundreds of years. Many film adaptations of Hamlet have been produced from the start of the 20th century hence, some winning major awards and starring major celebrity actors such as Lawrence Olivier and Mel Gibson. Full texts of the script of Hamlet are also available online here and elsewhere. Ryan North is a webcomic writer best known for working on Dinosaur Comics since 2003. Dinosaur Comics manages to be even more minimalist in its art style than xkcd's stick figure stylings -- the gimmick of Dinosaur Comics is that every comic is the same set of panels depicting dinosaurs, with only the dialogue and captions changing each update. Ryan North has also written short webcomics for the Namco ShiftyLook project, including a survival horror interpretation of Dig Dug and a bizarre-but-sorta-faithful retelling of Galaga. Both those comics had the Chris Hastings/Anthony Clark duo behind Dr. McNinja doing the artwork and some co-writing. I'd link the comics, but the ShiftyLook website and all its contents evaporated and I haven't yet found an archive of those two comics in particular. Ryan North has also done writing for the Adventure Time comic book series, which apparently exists. Ryan North's To Be or Not To Be is a Choose Your Own Adventure book adaptation of Hamlet funded by a successful Kickstarter back in 2012. The book raised $580,000 on Kickstarter and met all of its stretch goals, including the addition of storylines for Ophelia and Hamlet Sr., and was published in September of 2013. More recently the game was adapted into an electronic form using Tin Man Games's Gamebook Adventures Engine and saw a Steam release for Windows, Mac, and Linux as well as mobile releases through Google Play and the iOS App Store. I will be running the iOS app for this Let's Play unless it comes up that the Steam release has additional content. The gamebook has pleasantly surprised me by being decently interesting and funny, even if the humor is often hit-or-miss with a hint of monkey cheese. The creators appear to have put a decent amount of effort into the electronic release too, with illustrations contributed by pretty much every noteworthy webcomic artist; the illustrator credits include Kate Beaton, Chris Hastings, Randall Munroe, Mike Krahulik, and numerous others. Notably, Tim Buckley is absent from that list. I haven't done most of the gamebook's endings, and don't know how deep it goes except that judging by the list of locked illustrations and achievements I've only just scratched the surface. How is this LP going to work? I'll transcribe text and provide screenshots, particularly of decision screens as well as illustrations, achievements, and other unique content that appears. Game text will be in normal format; my commentary will be in underlined italics. When a decision screen comes up, everybody will get to vote on it. I'll try and update once every day or two. When we hit an ending, I'll give everybody a few days to vote on where we pick up. The game appears to have fast skipping of previously-viewed scenes and a somewhat decent checkpoint system, which will facilitate this. I might divert to other somewhat-hidden easter egg content between runs. The credits point to AudioBlocks as the source for sound effects and music, and I have tracked down some of the audio there. It's all stock audio, but I'll try to provide links. Are you going to do the awesome super secret ending where-- I'm putting in a standing rule for this LP: You can spoil Hamlet all you want; it's public domain and probably everybody here has studied it at some point in high school or college. Talk about Hamlet, talk about Hamlet movies, Hamlet scenes, the ending of Hamlet, whatever. However, if you've played this game, don't spoil original game content, even in spoiler tags. Don't drop hints and references about things we haven't yet seen, don't post about how excited you are about this upcoming part that'll shock everybody and blow everybody away. As we exhaust more and more of the different story paths and endings, I'll consider relaxing the no-spoiler rule to facilitate getting to obscure game content, and will edit this post if and when the rule is pulled. That being said, this game was crowdfunded by webcomic fans, and thus I can't guarantee that all of the jokes will be funny or even non-cringe-inducing. Criticism and mockery is encouraged. Given that this is babby's first LP I'm more than open to suggestions on how to improve the presentation as well. Music quote:This is what we're looking at for most of the game. Button labels are self-explanatory; rewind and fast-forward are particularly useful for backtracking and re-running sequences. Tapping the screen makes more blocks of text appear, advancing the narrative. quote:Like so. When transcribing these text blocks I'm merging most of them, and giving my best guess about when to start new lines or paragraphs. A lot of blocks of texts are chunks of long sentences broken up with ellipsis; I usually cut out the ellipsis or replace them with commas. quote:To Be or Not To Be is both the earliest recorded example of the "books as game" genre as well as the first instance ever in the then-newish English language that was kicking around of an adventure being chosen by YOU, the reader. Both the other two are gimmick answers and will be looked into as intermission segments. We can see the first occurrence of one of the aforementioned Yorick skulls here, and we're going to go with that. quote:
Put your votes in bold. Hamlet's age as described here is accurate to the play, interestingly enough. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 03:53 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 13:24 |
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Overnight the voting has turned almost unanimously in the favor of Hamlet Dad so we're going to go with that. Let's go and see where choosing his story starts us.quote:
Except that we're already dead. Big illustrations like this appear at various points, usually when you die and/or the game ends somehow. The unlock screen also appears, complete with falling confetti, whether or not you've already seen that artwork. This is the last time I'll show it. Newly-viewed artwork is added to the game's gallery, with an infocard about the artist; I'm setting each image to have a hyperlink to the respective infocard. We also get our first achievement, reminding us that choosing to play as Hamlet's dad got us killed immediately. However... quote:It takes more than death to knock Hamlet Dad out of the story. Put your votes in bold. No Yorick skull this time to guide us. Turns out some of the audio in this game is harder to find than expected, even if it's all pretty dull. Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Also, this is like .94 cents on Steam right now. Not seeing it at that price. You have a link? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 13:55 |
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Small Frozen Thing posted:This looks pretty neat, but your OP looks like a savage bout of tryhard-coolguy gripped you in the process of writing it. You're right; it needs a rewrite. Will get it softened up this evening when I'm not at work. My expectations for this game are fairly low but I was leaning way too hard on the "THIS GAME AND EVERYBODY ASSOCIATED WITH IT IS ABSOLUTE poo poo" angle.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2015 16:00 |
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Cleaned up the OP a bit. Voting closes at 10 PM CST.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 02:35 |
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Looks like we're in need of a tiebreaker vote. Next vote decides our path.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 04:03 |
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Seyser Koze posted:No ghost. You figure correctly! Something about that style of art, construction of panels, and voluminousness of text seems very familiar. And yes, this really is a game over this time, so we get taken right to the HAML-O-METER to see how we did. quote:It's got spotlights knocking around the scene and lights that flick up and down the meter for a bit before settling at the very bottom. It's hard to catch the meter lights in a screenshot, since they blink constantly, but we got the worst rank. To elaborate on that: quote:We literally died in one decision and ceased to exist forever in the next decision. quote:We have checkpoints at the character select and at Dead Hamlet Dad's first decision. This gives us three options to choose from for our next playthrough.
Votes go in bold. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 04:27 |
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Vote's as unanimous as it gets. Let's see how Hamlet Dad can do as a spooky afterlife ghost. Music quote:
Ghostly Hamlet Dad is off to a rough start, and Yorick's still nowhere to be seen. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 14:10 |
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Qylvaran posted:Does the iOS app include the 'prequel', Alas, Poor Yorick? Doesn't appear to, but Ryan North did release Poor Yorick in ebook form as a free download from one of his websites so I've gone ahead and grabbed it. It's pretty short at 35 pages in PDF form and has some illustrations by Tyson Hesse, and the mobile book form has tappable links for making decisions without flipping between pages. From here on out, each time we hit an ending I'll give everybody the option to vote to divert to Poor Yorick, playing until we hit an ending there. I'll go into more detail about what Poor Yorick is when the time to vote comes. Voting on our current decision closes at 10 CST. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Mar 25, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 17:50 |
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Right, so having looked through Poor Yorick I have the following observations. It's extremely short, with the total number of scenes numbering in the dozens, and the longest story path is fewer than 10 choices long. There are, however, a lot of different endings, enough that I'd be comfortable using Yorick's misadventures to fill in the gaps between each of our runs of To Be or Not To Be. My inclination is thus to alternate between the two, running To Be or Not To Be to an ending and then running Yorick around until he meets his demise. Once we hit the end of our current run, we'll switch over to Yorick and get him killed, which seriously happens really loving fast no matter what we do, and then we'll go back to To Be or Not To Be.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2015 20:52 |
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Another very close vote, as we begin our investigation into our own demise.quote:
Let none ever say that the Ghost King wasn't a resourceful old bastard. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 26, 2015 04:04 |
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The votes are in, and it turns out that despite being a ghost and not a poltergeist, we can still both flip through diaries and handle writing utensils. Never underestimate the Ghost King of Denmark.quote:
That came through pretty well! But is the Ghost King as good at swimming as he is at investigation and diplomacy? Or should he just take a safer and perhaps slower route back to his homeland? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 27, 2015 04:14 |
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For all we know, the sailing ships might be as fast as swimming in this day and age. Let's give it a shot!quote:
It appears we have a very arbitrary selection of ghostly superpowers. Are we going to use them to get back home or to get back home with maybe a massive quantity of pirate gold? Voting closes tomorrow at 4 PM CST. Decoy Badger posted:This writing instantly reminded me of why I stopped reading Dinosaur Comics. Pretty much the only bit of writing by Ryan North that I ever sort of liked was his Dig Dug run; that was the one thing that nudged me into trying out this game. Dinosaur Comics to me was always at best forgettable and at worst annoying. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 28, 2015 20:49 |
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Per the votes, let's spend some time searching for pirate treasure.quote:
Well, other than the achievement that was perfectly fruitless. Do we want to do it some more and enjoy some more Hilarious Undersea Jokes by Ryan North, or run along to Denmark and enjoy some more Hilarious Hamlet Jokes instead? Voting ends tomorrow at 9 PM CST. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 29, 2015 23:07 |
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A close vote, but it looks like we're going back to the ocean to search for more pirate treasure. What will we find down there?quote:
Looks like King Hamlet's story has come to an end once more. Time for the Haml-O-Meter! quote:(some pointless poo poo went here) Poor Yorick will begin in my next post. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 31, 2015 03:53 |
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Poor Yorick originated as the $90,000 stretch goal for the kickstarter that spawned To Be or Not To Be. It was intended as a short choose-your-own-adventure based on the life of Yorick, the jester whose skull is unearthed and held up by Hamlet in one of the most famous scenes from the play that this work is derived from. The Kickstarter page promised that if $90,000 was pledged then every backer at any tier would get an ebook edition of Poor Yorick, which Ryan North was to write. At the $95,000 and $125,000 stretch goals, increasing quantities of illustrations were added to the book, and at the $150,000 stretch goal it was published as a kickstarter-exclusive physical volume, sent to everybody who had backed To Be or Not To Be at the $25 tier or higher. The Kickstarter met all of these stretch goals and more, even hitting the $500,000 stretch goal listed as "I will literally explode (literally)" which was fulfilled using a dry ice bomb placed inside a 3D-printed plastic model of Ryan North's head. Later on, the ebook version of Poor Yorick was put up for free download on one of the websites that Ryan North writes for. It includes a PDF version and a very functional mobile form, with tappable hyperlinks for jumping between decisions. I've run through every ending of Poor Yorick; while it's very short it has enough different endings to inspire the idea of using the book as an intermission for To Be or Not To Be. It has also managed to be somewhat more amusing to me than To Be or Not To Be, which I'm trying to figure out how to deal with. For now, though, let's see if Yorick can lift the mood in here. Page 1 posted:It’s a brand new day! You roll over in bed, open your eyes and, as you do every day, remind yourself of who and where you are, as well as what your deal is. Oh, Yorick, you little scamp, trying to identify with webcomic artists and other self-proclaimed internet funnymen. Voting will stay open for a few days, since I'll be traveling. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Apr 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Mar 31, 2015 04:16 |
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Golden Bee posted:If you don't want to lp the game, nobody's forcing you. The core concept of the book does genuinely interest me. The idea has amazing potential, and sometimes it shines through in Ryan North's writing. He keeps dropping the ball, though, often enough that I question whether he can tell when he's telling an engaging and/or funny story and when he's just pissing off his audience. This particular story path wound up being one of the instances where Ryan North hosed up, and it's not the only time in this book where he's going to do so. I want this gamebook to be good, it's not, and that makes it difficult to LP. Cutting my losses and pronouncing this to be a failed LP on account of a lot of the gamebook being often unfun and unreadable would be a justifiable response, but not necessarily a constructive one. The problem that I see with webcomic creators, and internet artists in general, is that the internet makes it extremely easy to fall victim to confirmation bias. No matter what you post on the internet, somebody is going to tell you that it's amazing and somebody else is going to tell you that it's a piece of poo poo. Countless artists stray into the trap of blocking out everything but their unconditional fans, allowing the ever-reliable supply of positive feedback to convince them that whatever they create is golden. By the time they start to go bad either because their creativity dried up or they fell behind on the times, they've forgotten how to police their own work and listen to constructive criticism, and thus wind up huddled in an unnoticed corner of the internet, subsisting on whatever revenue they can extract from their remaining diehards. Even Tim Buckley has enough sycophants surrounding him to block out the chorus of voices telling him that his work is objectively garbage. The result is that only two types of constructive feedback make it through to these artists. One is the kind that comes from close, honest friends and loved ones, people that the artist can always count on to be fair and objective with his or her work. These are the people whom a good artist shows their work to before releasing it into the wild, people with high standards and good taste whom the artist counts on to tell them if a particular creation is bad. The other type of feedback that can penetrate the echo chambers that internet artists build around themselves is in-depth criticism that takes apart an artist's work and discusses where it was good, where it hosed up, and most importantly, how it hosed up and how it could be better. I definitely think this gamebook's author could have done better, given the inherent potential in the book's concept and the author's experience and talent. The book could have been entertaining, and the reasons why it isn't are, to me, clear and identifiable. Pronouncing the gamebook a lost cause and aborting the LP wouldn't be respecting the gamebook's potential, and it wouldn't send any message to the author other than that that one comedy forum thought the book was so lovely that they cut off their let's play after seeing only two endings. Let's Plays of mediocre and even outright bad games are possible, though they often come in a different format than let's plays that can count on high-quality source material for support, with the LPer's efforts focused towards editing and presentation. What I'm considering doing is shifting the format towards that of a critical LP, the type that focuses on what was done right in a game, what was done wrong, and what should have been done instead. If that falls flat, though, I have no problem with putting up the shutters.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2015 15:13 |
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Right, this is getting weird. Travelling is done with for now, so let's get back to business and see how Yorick is handling himself now that he's decided to get out of the house.quote:>>Restart<< Yorick's initiative and willingness to go outside have quickly landed him a job interview with the government of Denmark. But how much initiative is enough? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Apr 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 3, 2015 04:26 |
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Spring break is over, and it's time to see how Yorick's been busying himself while in line for his job interview. Why, he's been trying to screw over his competitors, of course!quote:>>Go back<< Whoops! It looks like Yorick isn't actually any good at sabotaging people. Bye, Yorick! We'll be seeing you after our next run of To Be or Not To Be. We have a few choices as to how to proceed with our next run:
Voting ends on Tuesday at 10 PM CST. As a note, the illustrator of Poor Yorick is Tyson Hesse, and we'll be seeing more of his illustrations every time Yorick gets his poo poo kicked in. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Apr 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 6, 2015 02:42 |
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Ghost King Hamlet is going to pick up right before the point when he suddenly decided to study marine organisms for the rest of eternity. Instead, he's going to scurry along to Denmark and get on with the avenging thing he's supposed to do.quote:
In the play proper, the ghost of King Hamlet tells how he spends each night wandering as a ghost and each day suffering the horrific agonies of Christian Purgatory. In To Be Or Not To Be the Ghost King is having an easier time, so much so that he remains innocent as to the true nature of Claudius and Gertrude's relationship. Should we let him stay blissfully ignorant? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 8, 2015 06:02 |
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Hamlet Dad's just too suspicious about all of chatter between his brother and his widow. Let's see if he takes it well.quote:
Nope, he didn't take it well at all. Rather than playing pranks on his brother for killing him, Hamlet Dad is going to seek out a way to murder his brother for both killing him and marrying his widow. But how's he going to go about it? Is he going to attempt the deed all on his ghostly self, or is he going to enlist his precious son as an accomplice? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 8, 2015 23:57 |
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dreezy posted:Kill Claudius and I swear to god if this just leads directly to a stupid dead end then I am done with Ryan North and his bullshit. Hey, about that. quote:
If the number of choices made as listed on the game over screen looks a bit off, it's because the game doesn't appear to properly track number of choices made when it's loaded from a checkpoint. I didn't post the Haml-O-Meter this time, but we got the lowest rating (again) anyway. Interestingly, the doodle on top of the game over screen appears to be randomized, drawn from a pool somewhere. Even if you hit the same ending multiple times, there's a good chance you'll get a different Game Over doodle after the ending illustration. This sort of randomness crops up in a few other places in the app, too. Whatever the case, though, it looks like King Claudius has once again reached a happy ending of sorts, and that means we'll be spending some time with Poor Yorick again! Welcome back, Yorick! Last time we went through Poor Yorick, we died after two decisions due to a rather inexpert attempt to sabotage our fellow job candidates. Let's try not to do that again!
Good luck, Yorick! Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 9, 2015 06:01 |
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Kangra posted:Option 3: I shoulda stood in bed. There's a good deal that I like about the art direction in both these gamebooks. It looks to me like all the webcomic artists who drew illustrations of Ghost King Hamlet were held to the same reference sheet, so he almost always has the same distinguishing characteristics regardless of who drew him or in what style. We're starting to see the same with Hamlet Junior, too, and that's going to continue. Maybe we'll even see another game over illustration right at the end of this update, depending on how Yorick's decision to wait at the very back of a line of perfectly qualified jester interviewees pans out! quote:>>Go back<< Maybe these other jesters aren't so qualified after all. King Hamlet hasn't made his decision and sent everybody else home yet; Yorick might just have a chance! However, first impressions are very important. How should Yorick present himself to his would-be boss? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Apr 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 00:36 |
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Keeping in mind his new friend's wise words about different types of jesters, Yorick elects not to style himself as a natural fool. Perhaps he'll be able to do such things without consequence if he successfully passes as a licensed fool.quote:>>Go back<< Yorick has made it to the most critical moment of his life. Either he impresses the Royal Family of Denmark enough to become accepted as their personal entertainer, or he leaves the palace in shame. How will he win his lieges over? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Apr 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 10, 2015 13:13 |
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Yorick is just going to stroll right into the royal court, introduce himself to the King and Queen, and make a bunch of fart sounds at them.quote:>>Go back<< Against all odds, Yorick has cleared the initial screening and been accepted as court jester! The future is looking bright! But can Yorick keep up the good work? Should he start adding some variety to his act? Or should he keep the momentum going on his current routine? Wait, what did King Hamlet mean when he said Yorick had to survive the day? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Apr 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 11, 2015 00:15 |
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Having little to no knowledge as to how to actually put together a comedy routine to keep the attention of capricious nobles and their children, Yorick just sticks to what he knows to have worked so far. But is Kid Hamlet going to get bored of it too quickly?quote:>>Go back<< Nope! Kid Hamlet never grows tired of his personal Fart Jester, who terrorizes Elsinore Castle for five years before dying of natural causes and getting buried in an unmarked grave. Congratulations, Yorick! We've made it to a happy ending! Well, sort of. We'll have to see later if there is a way that Yorick could depart this world leaving more behind than just a lingering fart smell that's inundated everything in the castle by the time he dies. So long, Yorick! We'll be seeing you after we spend some more time with To Be or Not To Be. Last time we played, the late King Hamlet avenged his death by exploding King Claudius's body all over the Queen's bedchamber and face, then became a gory-explosion-ghost vigilante for all eternity. But was there a better way?
Voting closes tomorrow at 9 PM CST. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Apr 17, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 11, 2015 18:14 |
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Per the vote, we're going to rewind time to when Hamlet's dead dad was deciding whether to eavesdrop on Claudius and Gertrude's conversation.quote:
Unfortunately, the Ghost King of Denmark isn't nearly as good at spooking people as he is at blowing them up. Whether or not he actively snoops on Claudius and Gertrude, the Ghost King will still decide that things can only be solved with a good old-fashioned murder. On the surface, it looks like the same decision set we got when we made the decision to eavesdrop in our previous run. But if this CYOA was being done from the gamebook's printed form with reference numbers shown, at least one of the decisions here would lead to a different number than last time. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 13, 2015 03:59 |
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Hamlet Sr. is going to go and attend to this murder business himself, just as he did last time. Unfortunately, he's not a very creative guy and is going to murder King Claudius in exactly the same manner as before.quote:
Another exploded Claudius, another horrified Gertrude. This time, Hamlet Sr. is willing to think things through before passing judgment on his widow, though he seems to be of the notion that he's still married to her. Is he going to let this matter slide? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 14, 2015 23:59 |
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It's a tough call for him to make, but the Ghost King eventually decides that just because Gertrude married his exploded brother doesn't mean he has to get overly upset. Rather than yelling at Gertrude or doing something else that he might wind up regretting for all eternity, he puts the matter to rest.quote:
The Ghost King's willingness to tolerate his widow's little indiscretion is repaid by his nation's willingness to tolerate having a spectral horror from beyond the grave rule them for all eternity. Congratulations! ...Yes, I double-checked. Yes, that really is the ending illustration. I looked and it repeats in another ending where it's actually applicable. It's possible that we'll run into another misplaced illustration elsewhere that belongs here, but I haven't yet found one. Turns out that this particular gamebook is loving huge to the point that I'm still picking through all of it. One website sells a very nice poster depicting all of the game's events in flowchart form and it's positively mind-boggling. I'm considering working it into the LP to show our progress toward revealing everything. The Haml-O-Meter still lists us as "Not To Be." We still haven't gotten very deep. Anyways, now that King Hamlet has reached a happy ending of sorts, it's time to spend some more time with Yorick! Welcome back, Yorick! Please stop farting. Last time we did a playthrough of Poor Yorick, Yorick was hired on as the court jester and so enthralled Kid Hamlet with his fart noises that he was put to work doing nothing but making fart noises for the rest of his life. It was a comfortable way to spend his life, but let's see if Yorick can get into a more sophisticated career that isn't eventually doomed to obsolescence by whoopee cushions or Space Station 13.
Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 05:56 |
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Ol' Yorick is going to try talking to Kid Hamlet instead of breaking his mind with excessive fart noises.quote:>>Go back<< On second thought, maybe becoming the Fart Jester of Elsinore was actually the more dignified option. Is Yorick really going to put up with this abuse? On a side note, I've made some edits to previous updates. To Be or Not To Be has an art gallery listing all illustrations that we've seen, and for each image there's an infocard with a short blurb about that particular image's creator. All such infocards are now viewable by clicking the respective images in this thread. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Apr 18, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 16, 2015 23:55 |
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Yorick is totally going to bear this kid on his back a thousand times.quote:>>Go back<< Never accept a job as court jester for somebody who's rumored to suffer from chronic unhappiness. Yorick might very well be paying for that mistake in a moment. Glazius posted:How many megapoints do we even need to go up that scale? It's almost like megapoints mean nothing. We'll get there. It does take awhile before we start finding our way up the Haml-O-Meter but it eventually happens. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Apr 25, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 18, 2015 17:36 |
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FredMSloniker posted:Does that mean it's a cumulative thing, not a measure of how good or bad a specific ending is? The Haml-O-Meter has a couple of non-obvious mechanics, but there's a vague, somewhat underwhelming method to its madness. Arglebargle III posted:Wow I do not understand nerds getting angry at comedy CYOA books. If anything the way the OP has chosen to handle game-overs is making the book boring since we're just mechanically save-scumming to explore every path that doesn't lead to a dead-end. That sort of presentation is going to lead to the LP dead end! For this thread! Of course an adventure-is-chosen-by-you book loses its charm when you just read every outcome. I'm more or less okay with save-scumming the last decision on each page of Poor Yorick, due to certain quirks about its structure that are going to become very clear in a couple of updates. As for To Be or Not To Be, good point there as well, but without wanting to get too spoiler-y as to the reasons, I'm not 100% sure it would work to restart the gamebook every time we hit an ending. For now, I'm okay with the save-scumming inasmuch as it progresses the current story path we've on, but that story path is soon coming to an ultimate close, at which point I'll make some changes. I'm working on some other stuff for the thread too, and will be cleaning up previous posts further in the coming days. That said, I know that this LP could be better, and I'm more than open to suggestions as to what I can do to improve it. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Apr 18, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 18, 2015 20:34 |
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When I was a kid, I used to think that pork chops and wee bottoms were the same thing. I thought they were both pork chops. And because my jester thought it was cute, and because they were my favorite, he nicknamed me Porkchop Weebottoms. I didn't think it was a big deal. One day, before I realized fat kids are not designed to climb trees, I fell out of a tree, and bruised the right side of my body. I didn't want to tell my personal attendants about it because I was scared I'd get in trouble for playing somewhere I shouldn't have been. A few days later, my swimming tutor noticed the bruise and I got sent to the infirmary. From there, I was sent to another small room with black flags and a hooded man who asked me all kinds of questions about my life at the castle. I saw no reason to lie. As far as I was concerned, life was pretty good. I told him that I was sad, so they gave me a jester and he dubbed me Porkchop Weebottoms! This led to a full-scale rebellion, and the castle was under siege for three days until my parents finally asked me why the peasants were demanding the immediate abdication of Porkchop Weebottoms. News of this silly little story quickly spread through the castle and my jester was tracked down and put to death where he stood for being so loving stupid. To this day, I hate pork chops. quote:>>Go back<< What a stunning bit of work from a newly-hired jester, buddy! Not only did you break Kid Hamlet's heart by dubbing him Porkchop Weebottoms, you traumatized him so deeply that his future has been destroyed and by the time he turns thirty he's reduced to the status of a common gravedigger! Toodles, Yorick! We'll come back to you when you're ready to not do that again. Previously, on To Be or Not To Be: After murdering Claudius, Ghost King Hamlet discovered that his widow had married Claudius shortly after her husband's death. However, the Ghost King looked deep inside himself and found he was sort of okay with this, and retook the throne of Denmark thanks to a fictional constitutional provision. But was this really the best decision to make?
Voting ends Monday at 10 PM CST. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 19, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 19, 2015 21:19 |
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It's time to finally see what the Ghost King's son can do about this situation. Let's go and coax him into murdering a family member.quote:We're prodded about whether we want to really do this. The second option just kicks us back to sneaking into Claudius's room and exploding him, so we're going to soldier ahead. quote:
That's a hell of a list. Are we sure we're going to go on and spread death and chaos in the world of the living instead? In other news, the Steam release of To Be or Not To Be has an additional perk over the app: We can play the game with full audio narration by Matt Yantha! In actuality, it's not very functional in the game -- running audio narration causes new pages text blocks to appear automatically, and they try to match the flow of the narration but desync very badly. He's a good narrator, though, and very plain-spoken, for the most part ignoring all the allcaps and exclamation points littering Ryan North's style of writing. I'll be including the relevant audio clips in future updates, and am going to start editing past posts to have the same once I work out some issues with tindeck. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 03:34 |
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:Option 1 On that note, kickstarter backers of this project received a special, four-pronged bookmark as one of the stretch goals: For the express purpose of savescumming all to poo poo. quote:Sometimes when you read a book you want to save where you are and come back later, right? That's what a bookmark is for. But in a multiple-path book, usually you'll have your fingers in several places of the book, in case you make a mistake and need to go back. If only there was a bookmark designed specifically for books like these, and maybe it could be a Yorick skull with big ol' teeth, and maybe instead of calling it a bookmark we could get clever and call it a "Plot Device". Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Apr 21, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 21, 2015 13:33 |
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because audience participation let's plays of CYOA books are A Thing in this subforum and this one was fresh/original enough to be worth having a look, that and the artwork is pretty coolGlazius posted:Look, if you don't want to tame ghost dinosaurs, I don't know what that says about you, but it can't be good. The narrative seems to agree on this, considering how upset it's starting to get at our choices. Case in point: quote:
Whoever this narrative claims to be, whether Ryan North or some other entity, the tone is getting rather vindictive. Should we accept this change of events or push back? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 22, 2015 00:20 |
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We're leaving the Ghost King behind! He's had his run for now, though he might just reappear later anyway.quote:
Our old friend the Yorick skull has finally re-appeared! We hadn't seen him since the character select screen, and he's... well, actually, he thinks this option is a little bit crazy, judging by the googly eyes. Decisions with Yorick skulls are always safe decisions, and advance the story in accordance with the original play. Non-Yorick decisions may advance the story along the same path, may lead us into unexpected and/or bizarre alternate storylines, or may lead us straight off a cliff. Are we going to do as Yorick suggests this time, or defy him and see what happens? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 23, 2015 01:53 |
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A close vote, but our hero eventually yields to his baser nature.quote:
Thanks for weighing in, Ophelia! We've got only one option here, so we're going to plow right on ahead. Whenever you pick a Yorick skull option, you'll run into another one on the very next decision screen. quote:
Every hero has a fatal flaw, and scholars will tell you that Hamlet's fatal flaw is inaction. But this being a CYOA, we decide how much action our protagonist takes or doesn't take at any given moment. Should we get started with the murdering, or should we follow in Hamlet Sr.'s footsteps? Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 23, 2015 13:50 |
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Added Space posted:Remember, kids, insulting one member of a group is the same as insulting every member of that group! Clearly these folks are masters of both literary criticism and social niceties. Huh. I had never read that bit as the ghost accusing Gertrude of a co-conspirator. Shows what I know. Let's see what Ryan North knows about assassinating kings in their own palaces! quote:
What a nice summary of all the acts that our hero performed as the result of a single decision! Porkchop Weebottoms is now King of Denmark and everything works out wonderfully for him for the rest of his life. Congratulations! It looks like choosing to be a man of action worked out pretty well for him. Before we get back to him, we'll see how Yorick's been doing and whether it's time to maybe try giving Kid Hamlet a different nickname! Last time on Poor Yorick, Kid Hamlet was given the name Porkchop Weebottoms, which was popular with everybody except him and resulted in Yorick's head getting lopped off. Should we try giving him a different nickname, or should we try avoiding getting into a situation where we have to choose a nickname for an emotionally unstable child-prince in the first place?
Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Jun 5, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 24, 2015 14:02 |
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Yorick thinks long and hard about what nickname to give Kid Hamlet. Kid Hamlet is a very stern little prince, barking out orders at Yorick and threatening him with death all the time. Why, there was even that one time Kid Hamlet ordered Yorick to make nothing but fart sounds for the rest of his life. It's all coming into some sort of pattern. Yorick makes his decision. quote:>>Go back<< Congratulations! Yorick has been accepted as Prince Hamlet's court jester, and spends the rest of the life entertaining Prince Hamlet with things other than constant flatulence! Yorick then dies in ignominious fashion! Congratulations, Yorick! You've won! We've completed Poor Yorick! As had been mentioned before, it's a pretty short gamebook and gets itself over with quite quickly. Now that it's done, we can get right back to To Be or Not To Be and see if we can make that story last a bit longer than Poor Yorick di-- quote:
Hold that thought... Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 26, 2015 |
# ¿ Apr 25, 2015 16:39 |
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Yorick's thought long and hard about this and he's just not going to accept that this could be the end of his story. He's going to summon up every ounce of his willpower in order to keep the story going.quote:>>Go back<< Oops. Yorick, you are such a disappointment. Away with you! Let's check back into To Be or Not To Be and hope that it still exists. Admittedly, though, I would have been interested to read about some of the adventures that Hamlet and Yorick had together. Where we left off, Hamlet chose to be a man of action and made the decision to murder Claudius, which led to him doing 30 things in rapid succession, which Rebecca Clements politely chronicled for us in the form of a single illustration. But can the story be made to last a little bit longer and end on a less underwhelming note?
Also, now that we've made it to the end state of Poor Yorick, there's less for us to do over there in future runs. Additionally, there are some concerns about To Be or Not To Be and how it's written, namely Ryan North's expectation that we'd read it with our fingers jammed up into all the pages so we can go back whenever we want to. This is likely why he inserted so many "gotcha" surprise endings. To account for this, I'm going to try something new: Hamlet has been given two extra lives. This means that the first two times we hit an ending, we'll automatically be pulled back to the decision screen where we made the choice that led us to an ending, and immediately try a different option chosen at random. This may be adjusted later, particularly due to some of the weirder "minigame" sequences in the book, where a bad decision early on wrecks you a long ways down the line. Also, to help with tracking our progress through To Be or Not To Be, Hamlet has been given a map! The resolution is pretty massive, so brace yourself if you bring it up to full-res. Kickstarter backers above a certain tier got an 18x24 poster that illustrates, in flowchart form, all of the decisions in To Be or Not To Be. The app and game both include it in the image galleries, though it's just barely too low-res to be readable. I'm using a scan of the poster that I cleaned up a bit, and blanked out everything we haven't yet seen. I'll update this periodically to reveal more and more of the structure as we uncover new stuff. The fully-revealed image has a lot of void spaces, as well as arrows running all over the place and crossing over each other, so trying to determine whether some decision leads to an ending based on the shape of the poster can be misleading. The blue bits you see crossing over one of the lines are one such example, as well as the arrow stretching all the way from the top to the start of King Hamlet's story. Yep. We have a long way to go. Pittsburgh Lambic fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Apr 26, 2015 |
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