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CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Fil5000 posted:

Hate to correct you Cobi, but The Womery was another companionless Six story so I think I.D. is his third solo outing.

:doh:

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Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

It's weird because the wormery is great but I usually forget it.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

Hate to correct you Cobi, but there were a number of BF releases that had the 3+1 format:

94. I.D. and Urgent Calls
95. Exotron and Urban Myths
96. The Wishing Beast and The Vanity Box
102. The Mind's Eye and Mission of the Viyans
109. The Death Collectors and Spider's Shadow
112. Kingdom of Silver and Keepsake
113. Time Reef and A Perfect World

(I'm not going to count Survival of the Fittest/Klein's Story because I haven't gotten there yet)

To be sure, only Urgent Calls, Urban Myths and Mission of the Viyans are completely separate from the main story, although they themselves loosely fit into a narrative of their own. The rest are all essentially appendices to the rest of the story, with mixed results - Keepsake is a nice "what happened to them afterwards" piece much more interesting than Kingdom of Silver, A Perfect World is a "what happened to the companion when they were off screen" bit with a touch of Frank Capra, and I don't know what the gently caress Spider's Shadow was except incomprehensible and bad.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

Fil5000 posted:

It's weird because the wormery is great but I usually forget it.

I'd love to learn your secret, nothing I've tried has helped me forget it.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

After The War posted:

Hate to correct you Cobi, but there were a number of BF releases that had the 3+1 format:

I appreciate the notes! Never worry about correcting me...I'd rather be right later than still in the wrong.

CobiWann fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Aug 9, 2015

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Davros1 posted:

Time had its own DVD release. I know, I have it.

http://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Who-Ti...e+of+the+doctor

I think that's only in America.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Wheat Loaf posted:

I think that's only in America.

You'd be wrong.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Yeah, I know about that - I mean it didn't have a DVD release which didn't have the other Christmas specials on it, because you'd have those already if you own the season five, six and seven sets.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

After The War posted:

I don't know what the gently caress Spider's Shadow was except incomprehensible and bad.

Spider's Shadow had a very, very, very loose connection to The Death Collectors, that is only resolved at the end, but is otherwise a stand-alone story. Also, yeah kinda incomprehensible towards the end, and a nice concept with a bad execution. Ditto with Death Collectors.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Edit: mispost

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

Pesky Splinter posted:

Spider's Shadow had a very, very, very loose connection to The Death Collectors, that is only resolved at the end, but is otherwise a stand-alone story. Also, yeah kinda incomprehensible towards the end, and a nice concept with a bad execution. Ditto with Death Collectors.

While Death Collectors got a bit out there, it is hands down the most effective sound production I've yet heard from BF. It really is one to listen to in the dark... on your own...

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.
Holy poo poo Strax in an audio with Jago and Litefoot! This is either going to be great or an hour long trainwreck.

Edit: Oh god Justin Richards is loving terrible at writing audios. He needs something longer form like a book to make his sense of pacing work. This is going to be a disaster.

Chairman Mao fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Aug 11, 2015

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Chairman Mao posted:

Holy poo poo Strax in an audio with Jago and Litefoot! This is either going to be great or an hour long trainwreck.

Edit: Oh god Justin Richards is loving terrible at writing audios. He needs something longer form like a book to make his sense of pacing work. This is going to be a disaster.

His first few audios (Red Dawn, The Time of the Daleks) didn't click, but I thought The Renaissance Man was really good.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?



Short Synopsis: A giant crocodile-man with daddy issues just wants to see a good rumble. Lucie's down, the Doctor is not.

Long Synopsis: The Doctor brings Lucie to the Sanctuary of Imperfect Symmetry on Indigo 3, a planet noted for its unsettling near-perfection, and a religion devoted to balanced imperfection. Visions of apocalypse have visitors in fear of their lives, an undercover spy masquerading as a monk is murdered, the Doctor is defenestrated, and Lucie becomes a nun and is charged with a holy (and impossible) mission.

What's Good:

  • The concept of Perfect imperfection. Indigo 3 is treated as an oddity, and makes very good use of the audio format to describe the naturally unnatural-looking environment they find themselves in. Visually, something so real it looks fake would just look.... well, fake. But in an audio, you can make the listener picture in their own heads something uncanny, something that triggers a response in humans of,"No no no something's not right here at all!" The sandy dunes of the planet are somehow, someway almost perfectly identical, which gives them a disturbingly crafted look. But it is that tiny imperfection that drives the creation of a religious movement there, one that finds this small inperfection.... well, perfect - so they devote their lives to finding balance, to making sure that things never go too far one way or the other - that things are never too chaotic, but also never too ordered either. As a concept, it's cool as hell and a great potential subject for exploration. Throw in the Doctor's casual explanation of other features of the planet, like the huge rainstorms that come and blanket the land as far as the eye can see with blue flowers etc, and you have a really cool "alien" planet to use as a setting.

  • Lucie's meaty part. Lucie is a cool character but too often the stories rely on her loudness at the expense of actual personality/character development. While she is certainly loud in this story, and still a little guilty of rushing through her dialogue, the story shows that she doesn't just rabbit on vacuously, but is thinking on her feet. Late in the story, circumstances dictate a radical personality shift and Smith does a good job selling it, hampered only by having to emulate a rather poor voice effect. The ending, as she delights in rubbing the Doctor's nose in the situation he finds himself in is a lot of fun too - the warmth and depth of their relationship has really developed over the last season and a half to the point that even in middling stories like this one, it comes across well.

  • The Doctor's attitude. Right from the beginning, the Doctor has a wonderfully anarchic tone which is just pitch perfect. Constantly bemused by the obvious lies and obfuscations of the monastery, he seems to delight in refusing to allow anybody to get away with their bullshit. Even when he gets literally tossed out a window by the pissed off monks, his reaction once outside remains as light-hearted and fun even though he freely admits there are concerning things to be dealt with. That risks making the character seem callous, of undermining the stakes of the story with his detached air (sometimes Tom Baker would cross this line, unfortunately). But McGann's performance always gives the sense that he does care, that he is trying to make things better. That doesn't mean he needs to suffer fools or allow them to dictate terms, and he definitely buckles down when it becomes Lucie is in danger. You could accuse him of only getting serious when it affects HIM, so I think it's important that he still cracks jokes in the same vein even when he is obviously concerned. That's who the Doctor is - charmingly befuddled in a very English way, he is somebody who has always come across as genuinely caring, to the point of sometimes wearing his heart on his sleeve. Like with Lucie in the point above, McGann has by now so firmly inhabited the role of the Doctor that the character shines through no matter the quality of the story (unless it is REALLY bad).

What's Not:

  • The execution of Perfect Imperfection. While in concept the idea of the religion based on perfect imperfection, of a planet of uncanny near-symmetry, is fascinating.... beyond paying lipservice to it they don't really do ANYTHING with the idea. They establish the setting/theme and then toss it aside in favor of a far less interesting story about an ancient (and alien!) war. At points the religious figures mention how their philosophy is supposed to work, but in practice nothing they really do reflects that. It's a sad indictment of a story when the setting is more interesting than the actual narrative.

  • The treatment of the devout. In addition to the discarding of the setting in favor of a less interesting storyline, the religious figures in this story get short shrift too. There is no doubt that they are devout (at least the two authority figures) and yet they are also shown to be either hopelessly corrupt or mindlessly obsessed with rules without thought at all for the actual (ill-defined) teachings of their religious order.... except for when they do give it thought. If I thought the story was actually trying to make some kind of point about religious hypocrisy/bureaucracy itself, I could forgive this. But I don't get that sense, the characters in the monastery just seem to shift in the wind and do whatever the story requires of them at the time, shifting from hapless boobs to complicit criminals to sticklers for the rules to craftily interpreting their own religious doctrine to allow a happy ending for the Doctor and Lucie. The lack of defining characterization for the two authority figures means they come across as empty, undefined, and ultimately forgettable. Just as forgettable as the whole "visions of apocalypse" thing that is introduced early, largely forgotten about and then hastily and sloppily explained in a throwaway line later in the day.

  • The underwhelming "monsters". Sadly the narrative framing of this story includes a pair of alien warlords who barely work on paper let alone in audio format. Giant sentient crocodile men, the story starts with the declaration of war between the ruler of their planet and his most trusted lieutenant - a war that spirals out and eventually comes to Indigo 3. These creatures wouldn't work on television but in audios you can go crazy.... but you still have to successfully get across the creatures for the listener. These guys sound utterly generic, the same typical "deep" voiced warrior-class type that have appeared across large numbers of Big Finish audios. They sound ridiculous, the attempt to sell the booming voices impact the performance negatively, and they just get in the way of a far more interesting setting. There is some neat stuff about the way they choose their "Champions" and the surprisingly "civil" way they engage in warfare, but that's all too little, too late and should have been more focused on as the driving force of the story. As it is, it comes too late.

Final Thoughts:

The Skull of Sobek is at best a middling story, and at worst a bad one. Full of a few potentially interesting starting points for different stories, it doesn't successfully explore any of them which results in a bit of a mess - is it a murder mystery? An exploration of religion? The way soldiers are sacrificed in war for old men sitting safe behind the lines? An examination of the simultaneous fear of/desire for perfection? All of those things are covered shallowly, nothing gets any deeper analysis. The saving grace of the story comes from the performances of Paul McGann and Sheridan Smith, and the interaction between the two characters showcasing a relationship that has quickly come to feel natural and earned, no easy feat considering it had to follow up on the long and successful run of Charley Pollard.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!


'The Farakosh attack us - and my Exotrons defend us.'

On a distant colonial outpost of Earth, a group of terraformers is under threat from the planet's most fearsome predator: the giant carnivorous Farakosh. All that stands between the colonists and a grisly death are the Exotrons - huge robots equipped with devastating firepower, designed by the outpost's leader, Major Taylor.

But all is not as it seems. How are the Exotrons controlled, and where did the colonists find the resources to build them? The Doctor wants answers and Taylor is reluctant to provide them.
Meanwhile, outside the compound, the Farakosh are massing...
Peter Davison is the Doctor in Exotron. (A Three-Part Story)
X X X X X
In an expensive restaurant somewhere on Earth, three gourmets plan their evening. First item on the menu: the death of the Doctor.

Peter Davison is the Doctor in Urban Myths. (A One-Part Story)

X X X X X

Cast
Exotron
Peter Davison (The Doctor)
Nicola Bryant (Peri)
John Duttine (Hector)
Isla Blair (Paula)
Nick Brimble (Shreeni)
Richard Earl (Corporal Mozz)
Claire Wyatt (Weiss)

Urban Myths
Peter Davison (The Doctor)
Nicola Bryant (Peri)
Steven Wickham(Harom)
Douglas Hodge (Edge)
Nicola Lloyd (Kettoo)
Barry McCarthy (Palgrave)
Clare Calbraith (Trooper)

Written By: Paul Sutton
Directed By: Barnaby Edwards

Trailer - http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/popout/exotron-261

X X X X X

Exotron is the the best example of an “average” Doctor Who story. The plot is simple, there are a few twists and turns, and there's a Big Bad. But throughout the story are several flaws and setbacks that prevent the story from rising to a level about “adequate.”

Peri is excited to find several samples of local fauna that she's never seen before, and the Doctor, gently complaining, is happy to help her carry her findings back to the TARDIS. However, the pair stumble upon some local workers setting up a pylon of some sort. The pylon draws the attention of some local wildlife, a giant hyena-type creature called a Farakosh. And the Farakosh draws the attention of the local security force, a large robot called an Exotron. Ignoring the wounded workers, the Exotron takes the Doctor back to its controller leaving Peri behind in the process. While Peri and the workers try to return to the main compound under the constant threat of the Farakosh, the Doctor does his best to study the Exotrons, specifically why the Doctor seems to be able to mentally connect with its mind...



The writer for the acclaimed stories Arrangements for War and Thicker Than Water returns to Big Finish. However, this story doesn't live up to Paul Sutton's previous output. Exotron is another three-part story from Big Finish, and the compressed run time serves to exacerbate one of the serial's main flaw; everything is rushed and very little is developed. The two central plot lines; Peri's attempt to first survive, and then communicate with the Farakosh, and the Doctor's attempts to figure out the horrible secret behind the Exotron and how it ties into his psychic abilities. There are plenty of little narrative threads running through Exotron as well, such as the imminent arrival of an Earth authority who's interested in both the Exotrons and a little bit of mayhem, a love triangle between three characters (the creator of the Exotron, Major Taylor as played by John Duttine, head scientist Paula Taylor portrayed by Isla Blair of The King's Demons fame, and the recently dead Christian played by Richard Earl), and an attempt to deduce why the Farakosh are so hostile. All these threads get “air time,” but the rushed nature not only leads to unsatisfying resolutions to all of them (and to Exotron as a whole), but everything about them just feels incredibly cliched. The revelation of what powers the Exotrons is interesting, but it's been done before, and knowing the interactions of several characters, the power source of the Exotrons doesn't come as any sort of surprise, as well as why the Farakosh are so hostile to the incoming colonists. The biggest cliché comes from the “out of nowhere” bad guy Ballentyne (Nick Brimble, who also plays the technician Shreeni), who arrives near the end of the the second episode to shoot things and blow up buildings in the third episode before sliding away with nothing more than a “he'll get what he deserves” from the Doctor. There's just nothing that stands out and makes Exotron unique.

Exotron is the second main range story featuring the Doctor and Peri (the previous one was release SEVEN years prior, Red Dawn, while all their other stories have been along side the Egyptian princess Erimem), and while I hate to call a companion's part in a story superfulous, Nicola Bryant really didn't bring much to the party other than to be put in trouble, engage in some banter with the Doctor both verbally and mentally, and provide a suggestion that since insects communicate through vibrations. Aside from the opening (where for a brief shining moment I hoped that Peri's often mentioned botany experience might finally come into play), Peri's part could have been played by one of Exotron's secondary characters.

Peter Davison does a fine job, playing the sacrificing and noble Fifth Doctor as well as he ever has. His banter with Peri is top notch, as well as both his anger as Major Taylor's experiments and his willingness to do whatever is takes to help those who have been hurt by the Exotron program. But that's really all that I can say about Davison's performance – it was “fine,” nothing outstanding, nothing detrimental.

Urban Myths is the one-part story that accompanies Exotron, and it also was a story where the short run time hurt the overall result. Three Time Lords from the Celestial Intervention Agency sit in a restaurant, plotting the death of the Doctor for his part in the destruction of an inhabited planet. Each Time Lord tells the story in a different way, which gives Davison and Bryant a chance to play the Doctor and Peri in new ways; in one story, they're madmen laughing at how casually the planets dies at their hands, while in another version they're both travelers who would rather let a planet die instead of getting their hands dirty trying to save it. It's a fine little distraction of a story which could have used a few more minutes to perhaps expand on each individual story and color the three Time Lords beyond stuffy CIA stereotypes.

Exotron is a “ok” story at best. There's nothing about it that drags the story down to an unlistenable level, but there's nothing that also makes it stands out above any other Big Finish production, to the point that there's really nothing quasi-clever I can think of to end this review.

Pros
+ It's not a bad story in that it moves quick and keeps the action moving

Cons
- It's not a good story in that it's rushed and relies on a variety of cliches



Cobi's synopsisExotron is an adequate audio – there's nothing that really stands out to make it special, but there's also nothing that would see it tossed in the rubbish bin.

Next up - The former Doctor (FOR SALE. EXCELLENT CONDITION) visits the Job Centre and finds power cuts, barcoded citizens and monthly riots (ALL BOOKABLE)...

Sylvester McCoy is the Doctor in...Valhalla.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The biggest issue with Exotron is definitely the late arrival of what is supposed to be the primary antagonist of the story - the three episode structure really hurts things as well, and the two combined just makes the whole thing feel like a rush-job.

Rat Flavoured Rats
Oct 24, 2005
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-rat_flavoured_rats.gif"><br><font size=+2 color=#2266bc>I'm a little fairy girl<font size=+0> <b>^_^</b></font>
Another trailer for the new series is being released at 7PM according to the Facebook page. :)

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I'm watching Day of the Doctor at work (you know, because I can and everyone's gone home) , and the beginning suddenly irked me. UNIT just up and grab the TARDIS from where it was parked because "We found it in a field." That's a fairly big ask of them, what if he needed it where it was? And what if it was the wrong Doctor?

"There we are, Sarah Jane, just over the next hill and we can get back to the TARDIS. Then a short hop to the Cyberfleet mothership and we can stop the imminent invasion from there."
"Um, where's the TARDIS?"
"gently caress."

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

The_Doctor posted:

I'm watching Day of the Doctor at work (you know, because I can and everyone's gone home) , and the beginning suddenly irked me. UNIT just up and grab the TARDIS from where it was parked because "We found it in a field." That's a fairly big ask of them, what if he needed it where it was? And what if it was the wrong Doctor?

"There we are, Sarah Jane, just over the next hill and we can get back to the TARDIS. Then a short hop to the Cyberfleet mothership and we can stop the imminent invasion from there."
"Um, where's the TARDIS?"
"gently caress."

The plot of Day of the Doctor wasn't great.

Still the best Doctor Who thing we got that year

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

The_Doctor posted:

I'm watching Day of the Doctor at work (you know, because I can and everyone's gone home) , and the beginning suddenly irked me. UNIT just up and grab the TARDIS from where it was parked because "We found it in a field." That's a fairly big ask of them, what if he needed it where it was? And what if it was the wrong Doctor?

"There we are, Sarah Jane, just over the next hill and we can get back to the TARDIS. Then a short hop to the Cyberfleet mothership and we can stop the imminent invasion from there."
"Um, where's the TARDIS?"
"gently caress."

Write this up and submit it to Big Finish, stat.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

The_Doctor posted:

I'm watching Day of the Doctor at work (you know, because I can and everyone's gone home) , and the beginning suddenly irked me. UNIT just up and grab the TARDIS from where it was parked because "We found it in a field." That's a fairly big ask of them, what if he needed it where it was? And what if it was the wrong Doctor?

"There we are, Sarah Jane, just over the next hill and we can get back to the TARDIS. Then a short hop to the Cyberfleet mothership and we can stop the imminent invasion from there."
"Um, where's the TARDIS?"
"gently caress."

Eh, that's exactly what the Brig would have done. Then, no matter which Doctor came along with whatever story, he'd roll his eyes and say that whatever he had going on was more important.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor
"Right, Cybermen, that's all well and good Doctor, but there's been this rash of moustache comb thefts that's left our top boys stumped."

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Series 9 trailer is up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csVdLbDMO4

I guess they didn't mean 7PM for me (East Coast of America).

Rat Flavoured Rats
Oct 24, 2005
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-rat_flavoured_rats.gif"><br><font size=+2 color=#2266bc>I'm a little fairy girl<font size=+0> <b>^_^</b></font>
Excellently dodgy CGI on that Sea Serpent/Dragon thing.

IceAgeComing
Jan 29, 2013

pretty fucking embarrassing to watch
I'm getting a bit of an "Invasion of the Dinosaurs" vibe from whatever that CGI dragon-thing was; its not that nice looking

and therefore it will probably be good because some of the best episodes have ugly monsters in them

thrawn527 posted:

Series 9 trailer is up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csVdLbDMO4

I guess they didn't mean 7PM for me (East Coast of America).

shock as british television programme uses british summer time to release trailers

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

A little privacy, please?
THOSE SHADES

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

IceAgeComing posted:

shock as british television programme uses british summer time to release trailers

I'm not saying I wasn't dumb for not thinking of it. I was just surprised when I saw it, after seeing the 7PM message. It was a real, "Oh, right, duh" moment.

vegetables
Mar 10, 2012

Paul Cornell's comic miniseries with the 10th through 12th and War Doctors started today. I was expecting it to suck, but in a pleasing twist it turns out it's pretty good! I strongly recommend the Titan comics in general, though, which I think are producing some of the best Who stuff in any medium right now.

Blasphemeral
Jul 26, 2012

Three mongrel men in exchange for a party member? I found that one in the Faustian Bargain Bin.

The_Doctor posted:

I'm watching Day of the Doctor at work (you know, because I can and everyone's gone home) , and the beginning suddenly irked me. UNIT just up and grab the TARDIS from where it was parked because "We found it in a field." That's a fairly big ask of them, what if he needed it where it was? And what if it was the wrong Doctor?

"There we are, Sarah Jane, just over the next hill and we can get back to the TARDIS. Then a short hop to the Cyberfleet mothership and we can stop the imminent invasion from there."
"Um, where's the TARDIS?"
"gently caress."

CapaldiDoc: "Surely, you know why it looks like a Police Box, General--Because it's shape shifting ability is broken. It's been broken for almost a thousand Earth years, now. Do you know why I haven't bothered fixing it? Because everywhere else in the entire universe, no one messes with it. But here? On Earth? I'm tempted to fix the damned thing to keep you lot from picking it up and moving it around all the time like some sort of in-the-way tea cozy."

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

thrawn527 posted:

Series 9 trailer is up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0csVdLbDMO4

I guess they didn't mean 7PM for me (East Coast of America).

Maybe its just me, but I got a really strong Myst-franchise vibe off of parts of that trailer. Surreal, yet grounded.

Dr. Gene Dango MD
May 20, 2010

Fuck them other cats I'm running with my own wolfpack

Keep fronting like youse a thug and get ya dome pushed back

Burkion posted:

The plot of Day of the Doctor wasn't great.

Still the best Doctor Who thing we got that year

I respectfully disagree.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

That's not the best Doctor Who thing though.

That's the best anything.

McDragon
Sep 11, 2007

Ha, just accidentally stumbled upon that trailer on the TV. Didn't know that was a new one. Looks good.

I hope Clara with a bazooka isn't a fakeout and she actually blows some fucker up with it.


DoctorWhat posted:

THOSE SHADES

That guitar

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

DoctorWhat posted:

THOSE SHADES

:cool:

Some neat looking villains this year!

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

I'm not sure of his name but, in that trailer, did I see the villain that formed the group to research the Doctor's appearances throughout history and then ate/absorbed them one at a time? He was from a much earlier Tennant season, I think. I tried to google him but couldn't find him.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

Ah, the Absorbaloff!

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
The absobalof from love and monsters? I didn't see him.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Acne Rain posted:

The absobalof from love and monsters? I didn't see him.

It wasn't him. Just something that resembled what I remembered him looking like until I could look him up.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
Have we seen that special Dalek before? He looks familiar.

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2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
CONFIRMED

-the Game Of Thrones girl is friends with fire breathing lion people

-the Master and the Daleks are in the same episode (straight-faced remake of Curse Of Fatal Death???)

-the giant robot suit of armour things are led by a ... viking?

Looks hype.

computer parts posted:

Have we seen that special Dalek before? He looks familiar.

It looks like the Dalek Emperor from way back in Journey's End

tadashi posted:

I'm not sure of his name but, in that trailer, did I see the villain that formed the group to research the Doctor's appearances throughout history and then ate/absorbed them one at a time? He was from a much earlier Tennant season, I think. I tried to google him but couldn't find him.

A Zygon maybe?

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