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MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Adding more stats to the spreadsheet to celebrate (just about) hitting 2/5 of the way through: ranking by villain, producer, and soon writer (qualification: at least 3 stories, not including The Five Doctors). Also tidied it up a bit

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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I'm starting work on a new Big Finish guide for the Series 9/Season 35 thread. Apart from the following, what should be mentioned?

-Monthly range
-The Lost Stories
-The Fourth Doctor Adventures
-The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield
-The Eight Doctor Adventures/Dark Eyes/Doom Coalition
-The Companion Chronicles
-The Early Adventures
-The New Series

Rat Flavoured Rats
Oct 24, 2005
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CaptainYesterday posted:

I'm starting work on a new Big Finish guide for the Series 9/Season 35 thread. Apart from the following, what should be mentioned?

-Monthly range
-The Lost Stories
-The Fourth Doctor Adventures
-The New Adventures of Bernice Summerfield
-The Eight Doctor Adventures/Dark Eyes/Doom Coalition
-The Companion Chronicles
-The Early Adventures
-The New Series

Could probably be condensed. Do people entirely new to Big Finish really need to know about Bernice Summerfield?

Rat Flavoured Rats fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Sep 10, 2015

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Rat Flavoured Rats posted:

Could probably be condensed. To people entirely new to Big Finish really need to know about Bernice Summerfield?

Depends if they're a big Virgin New Adventures fan

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"
Monthly, 4th doctor, 8th doctor and a generic others-category should be enough.
If someone wants more, he can :getin: and ask the resident goons.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

adhuin posted:

Monthly, 4th doctor, 8th doctor and a generic others-category should be enough.
If someone wants more, he can :getin: and ask the resident goons.

Maybe combine the narrative-based ones (Companion Chronicles, Early Adventures) and mention them since their odd format needs a little explanation.

Issaries
Sep 15, 2008

"Negotiations were going well. They were very impressed by my hat." -Issaries the Concilliator"

After The War posted:

Maybe combine the narrative-based ones (Companion Chronicles, Early Adventures) and mention them since their odd format needs a little explanation.

That would probably fit in as part of the description.

Something like:

Other stories:
Big Finish publishes 50+ Doctor Who stories each year. From narrative-based stories (Companion Chronicles, Early Adventures),
to series based on small side characters from the classic series (Jago & Litefoot, UNIT, Dalek Empire, somethingelse)
or Doctor Who books (Bernice Summerfield).

And So on. I'm not that familiar with non-doctor series.

Issaries fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Sep 10, 2015

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
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Technically speaking, there are two different Bernice Summerfield series: one featuring the Doctor, and one without.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Yeah, I'd say something along the lines of "Big Finish does a monthly Doctor Who range in the Classic Series style, as well as two more revival-style spin-off series for the 4th and 8th Doctor. There are numerous side projects ranging from one-offs to long-running series, just ask if you want to know more!"

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Depends if they're a big Virgin New Adventures fan

Or if they read the 12th Doctor books, as she's just turned up in one.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

𝅘𝅥𝅮 I wanna go home with the armadillo
Good country music from Amarillo and Abilene
Friendliest people and the prettiest women you've ever seen
𝅘𝅥𝅮

The_Doctor posted:

Or if they read the 12th Doctor books, as she's just turned up in one.

:aaa: Now I know what I need to read.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
I don't know, guys. Maybe we should take about the new episodes and ignore the audios?

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



CobiWann posted:

I don't know, guys. Maybe we should take about the new episodes and ignore the audios?

Naaaaaah, that's too weird.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
If we close our eyes, we could pretend the new episodes are audios :ohdear:

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?



Short Synopsis: The Doctor has overdue library books and Ace isn't feeling herself.

Long Synopsis: The Doctor brings Ace to the universe's greatest (and most inaccessible) library. The Chief Librarian will preserve the integrity of his collection at any cost, and the Daleks take "Knowledge is Power" literally.

What's Good:
  • The concept of the library. Though it would be done to far greater effect in season 4 of the revival, the notion of a library where EVERY book ever written is stored is a good and interesting one. The parallels don't end there, this library is also home to a displaced race of truly alien beings who can strike at any time from anywhere (though they have more in common with The Flood in Waters of Mars than the shadowy Vashta Nerada). That the library is hidden from most of the universe raises some interesting questions about whether the stockpiling of knowledge is really worth a drat if it isn't accessible, and makes it more akin to the old monasteries that saw themselves as safehouses of knowledge for the future rather than the present, jealously guarding and hiding away their books from the (admittedly mostly illiterate) masses. Is the Chief Librarian therefore somebody who celebrates knowledge or hoards it all to himself? Is his interest in the knowledge that the books contain, or simply the novelty value of having them? After all, the library makes a great deal out of having ONE copy of every book in existence.... that screams more gimmick than anything else. The Doctor is diplomatic on the subject but Ace makes no bones about her contempt for a library that goes unused, accessed only by a small minority who do so remotely, leaving the place effectively a tomb. The potential philosophical arguments could have been fascinating, and though the story takes a rather shallow approach to the subject, it does at least broach it.

What's Not:

  • The Daleks. This is the first Big Finish monthly range audio to feature the Daleks, the iconic enemies of the Doctor. They're voiced by Nick Briggs which is usually a very good thing, as he's more than established himself in the modern day as THE voice of the Daleks. But this is early days for Big Finish, and Briggs seems to still be finding his "voice" for the Daleks. As a result, they sound like an odd bridge between the Classic series voices and the by now familiar revival voices (themselves basically just the Big Finish voice that Briggs developed over the years) which makes them sound... off. In addition to their voices, the whole plot feels off in regards to the Daleks, mostly because they feel like third wheels. They're present in the story to drive the narrative to the point where some shocking secrets about the library can be revealed, but in that sense the story could have used literally any villain (existing or otherwise) and accomplished exactly as much. If the writer (Mike Tucker, who is actually best known for his Special Effects work on Doctor Who) intended to draw a parallel between the Chief Librarian and the Daleks, it again feels like any other "monster" could have done the trick. The Daleks seem to be present only because they can be, and Big Finish wanted to use them to attract listeners whether they were necessary to the story or not. To be fair, they are also present because Big Finish was building up the "Dalek Empire" concept, and if we look at it in that context it makes sense that the Daleks would appear to showcase the sense of universe-building that BF was working on. But in the context of just this story alone, the Daleks feel excess to requirements, or rather utterly interchangeable with whatever other villain might have been used instead.

  • The Supporting Characters. This is a three person story, focusing on the Doctor, the Chief Librarian and, sadly to a lesser extent, Ace. Everybody else is basically just an extra, either killed off immediately or used for comic relief (the Cataloguer Prink joke very quickly wears out its welcome). The sole exception is Bev Tarrant who.... does basically nothing. She survives when the rest of her crew does not, is taken prisoner by the Daleks, escapes with Ace, survives all the chaos and destruction and.... basically doesn't do anything but just be there. She would make appearances down the line in other audios written by Mike Tucker (including the much better Dust Breeding) and does smack a bit of being a pet character, but you can't accuse her of being a Mary-Sue since she is effectively a background character who just so happens to get a name and semi-regular appearances while not really accomplishing much of anything or standing out in any way.

  • The story. Perhaps I am unfairly comparing it to the (made much later) Library 2-parter from season 4 of the revival, but the story in general in this is a let-down. The Doctor brings Ace to the library to return some accidentally "borrowed" books, is shown the remarkable new digital storage system that retains all that data (in the year 2000 the idea of a digital repository of that magnitude probably felt like wild science-fiction :allears:) and (in between being assaulted by Daleks) discovers a dark secret behind the technology. There is interesting fodder for discussion at least in the moral (or immoral) practices of the Chief Librarian and his ultimate end-goals, but the story just kind of lurches along from scene to scene without any real sense of flow. A lot of stuff is present in the story that doesn't really add anything to it other than padding out the already short running time - the forcefield that hides the library, the mysterious Ziggurat, the various Dalek bases around the galaxy, Ace's doppelganger, the salvage crew - all of these things just kind of show up or sit in the story uncomfortably getting in the way of the actual plot.

Final Thoughts:

The Genocide Machine is sadly not a story I really recommend, which is a let-down considering the previous McCoy (The Fearmonger) was so good. The first story in the monthly range to feature the Daleks, it's a misuse of those wonderfully angry pepperpots who only seem to be around to draw more ears in. Shallowly dabbling in a concept that Moffat would do considerably better with 8 years later, it attempts to ask some interesting questions about morality, about the sanctity of knowledge, about whether the ends justify the means etc but can't quite pull off what it seems to be going for. Peopled by supporting characters who are glorified extras, the story has to rely on McCoy and Aldred's performances, and they do okay with the material given. It at least has the benefit of making the Chief Librarian (played by Bruce Montague) not a raving lunatic, but actually a rather endearing and eccentric figure, making his terrible crimes all the more horrifying. He doesn't fly into villain mode once revealed, but demonstrates his own sense of guilt and inner turmoil over what he has done while still making the point that he went ahead and did it anyway, and that he is still justifying the idea to himself. If the skeleton of that idea had been built on a little better, this could have been a pretty good story. Unfortunately it wasn't.

Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Sep 11, 2015

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Now also ranking by script editors (spoiler alert: Pemberton's going to win)

Dave Brookshaw
Jun 27, 2012

No Regrets

CaptainYesterday posted:

:aaa: Now I know what I need to read.

"Big Bang Generation"

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!


This is a warning to all space farers. You must keep away from this planet. It’s hostile, repeat, hostile.

On a planet with no name, the Doctor finds himself confronted by a faulty memory and some killer plants.

In a distant galaxy, Erimem leads a troubled empire.

Back on Earth, Peri tells her son about the good old days when she used to travel with a man called The Doctor.

Peter Davison is the Doctor in The Mind's Eye (a three-part story)

X X X X X

The Doctor and Peri take a holiday on the planet Gralista Social, but soon discover they aren't the only time-travelling aliens in town.

Peter Davison is the Doctor in Mission of the Viyrans.

X X X X X

Cast

The Mind's Eye
Peter Davison (The Doctor)
Nicola Bryant (Peri)
Caroline Morris(Erimem)
Owen Teale (Hayton)
Rebecca Front (Major Takol)
Thomas Brodie-Sangster (Kyle)
Richard Laing (Ukarme)
Nicola Weeks (Andree)

Mission of the Viyrans
Peter Davison (The Doctor)
Nicola Bryant (Peri)
Peter Sowerbutts (Lawrence)
Philip Childs (Chris)

Written By: Colin Brake
Directed By: Barnaby Edwards

Trailer - http://www.bigfinish.com/releases/popout/the-mind-s-eye-268

Mission of the Viyrans can be heard for free on Soundcloud - https://soundcloud.com/big-finish/doctor-who-mission-of-the

X X X X X

One of the goals of writing is to cause character growth and development, and one of the most common ways of doing so is by putting those the wringer, with emotional storylines that push a character to their utmost physical and emotional limits. While such events serve to grip the audience, there's also only so much that an audience can take before a constant stream of tension and misery before they burn out, unable or unwilling to put up with the character's constant struggle and hoping for a “win” of some sort.

Breather episodes serve to give both the writers and the fans a bit of a break. Coming after, before, or even in the middle of intense story arcs, these stories tend to be a little more lighthearted, a little less serious, and not as connected to the preceding/following story lines. Throughout the history of Doctor Who, there have been examples of this concept in action: Black Orchid, a two-part historical, immediately preceding the horrific events of Earthshock, while The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances and Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways were separated by Boom Town which focused on Rose/Mickie and the Doctor's dealings with a hostile alien, which included taking her out to dinner at one point.

The Mind's Eye comes off as a breather episode. Set between two emotional stories, it isn't a lighthearted story by any means. Instead, it serves to tread some very familiar ground, going through the motions with a scenario that's been played out time and time against through the history of fiction. It's not a bad story by any means, it's a story that just comes off as...there. It's the one-part story that comes along with this serial, Mission of the Viyrans, that grabs the listener's attention with a unique premise and some very nasty concepts and sound effects.

Having left the Doctor, Erimem finds herself Queen of the colony of New Cairo, a planet fraught with rebellion. After Erimem's death at the claws of the Krillian Horde, Peri left the Doctor and settled down on Earth, trying to be a good stepmother to the son of her devoted boyfriend. After his unconscious body is discovered by a scientific expedition on the surface of a jungle planet, the Doctor finds his companions under the sway of a native plant that sends its victims into a deep sleep before slowly devouring them. Erimen and Peri are trapped in a dreamscape of their own design, but before the Doctor can wake them he must first deal with the head scientist as well as the leader of this expedition, both who have their own schemes for the plant...



Colin Brake's previous audio, Three's a Crowd, utilized some unique settings and concepts but ultimately was a story that relied on standard cliches of the genre and cultivated very little in the way of urgency. The Mind's Eye travels down the same route, touching upon the convention of “is this a dream, or is this reality” but failing to establish any sense of tension. One of the reasons The Mind's Eye feels incredibly pedestrian could come from two recent episodes that dealt with the concept of dreams vs. reality, episodes that played with the concept much better than this audio – Amy's Choice and Last Christmas. Even without those episodes as comparison, there's just nothing special about this story that stands out. It's obvious from the very beginning which scenes are reality and which scenes are taking place in the dreamscape, and as such the conflicts within the dreamscape (Erimem dealing with a rebellion and Peri struggling with her stepson) don't carry any dramatic weight. It doesn't help that the Doctor's attempts to convince Erimem and Peri to wake up consist of a lot of “you know this isn't real” dialogue that goes on for much too long, and that the scientist and soldier characters come off as nothing more then uninteresting cliches. The highest marks I can give the script come at the very end. This is a Fifth Doctor story, so it's no surprise that the story ends on a incredibly down note, but it's a very well done and well acted down note, but most importantly, it helps set up the events of the following story, The Bride of Peladon. The post-production stands out, as Steve Foxon technically had to create music and sound effects for three different stories. The planet of YT45 comes alive through the sounds of jungle life, complete with rustling leaves and screeching wildlife both in nature and in captivity, while both New Cairo and soap opera-esque London are easily and quickly constructed in the listener's mind.

The acting is from the main trio is solid enough to carry their parts of the story. Peri's dreamscape finds her living with her new boyfriend and trying to be a decent stepmom to his son, but events occur that turn her life into a soap opera...no surprise that such melodrama would come from the imagination of an American teenager! Nicola Bryant does the soap opera portion very well, complete with the appropriate levels of overacting and line delivery, but she also deserves credit for her anguish as she tries to deny the Doctor's claims that her “life” is a construct of her subconscious' desire to replace the family she lost (a weird narrative choice, because this story takes place before The Reaping and her mom's death, but I chalked it up to her biological father's passing). Kudos for Bryant's delivery at the end of the story that “a lot of people died today, including my son,” a line that might have sounded cheesy in anyone's else voice. Caroline Morris' Erimem gets to be an actual Queen for the first time since The Eye of the Scorpion, and her dreamscape shows her as a firm-but-fair ruler who would rather negotiate and avoid creating martyrs than ruthlessly crush her enemies. Listeners get hints of the type of Queen that Erimem would have been as Morris delivers a royal performance. Once she's out of the dreamscape, Erimem becomes a damsel-in-distress for a scene before fading into the background for much of the fourth episode, save for a scene where she urges Ukarme to let Hayton into their safe room, because just because Hayton was a potential murderer, Ukarme shouldn't become one too. Peter Davison channels every single aspect of the Fifth Doctor in his performance – curiosity at the purpose of the scientific expedition and worming his way into receiving the grand tour, dismay at Erimem and Peri's state, anger at Hayton for his willingness to let Peri die for the sake of science for profit, and willing to risk his life to save Peri...as well as Ukarme, someone who he barely knows.

The supporting characters are a mixed bag. The minor characters within the dreamscapes do very well in their assigned roles as walking cliches (handmaiden, rebel leader, cautious advisor, boyfriend, best friend, teenage stepson), but since the listener knows they're characters who will cease to exist once Peri and Erimem wake up, there's no reason to get invested in their lives. Outside the dreamscape, Major Takol (Rebecca Front), Commander Ukarme (voice actor Richard Liang), and lead scientist Hayton (Vengeance on Varos, the Torchwood episode Countrycide, and currently known as Ser Alliser Thorne on Game of Thrones) go through the motions with their performances. Hayton's accent is the best thing about his role, Front doesn't make much of an impression beyond “yep, she's the commander,” and Liang is incredibly neutral and unemotional for an experienced voice actor whose character is on the side of the angels, but utilizes incredibly questionable methods.

While nothing about The Mind's Eye truly stands out, it's the one-parter Mission of the Viyrans that will stick with the listener. After the events of The Bride of Peladon (spoiler alert – this one-parter spoils Erimem's actions during this story), the Doctor and Peri are relaxing on the planet of Grallista Social, Doctor Who's answer to the Catalina [BLEEP]ing Wine Mixer. When Peri confronts the Doctor outside the party, teasing him about being anti-social, she quickly becomes horrified as the Doctor's entire body contorts and transforms into a perfect copy of herself!
But it gets worse, as Peri wakes up in an empty room a few seconds later, confronted by voices in her head who demand she forget everything she's seen, but the more she tries to forget, the more she remembers about that even, and how everyone in the party would go through a horrific transformation into Peri's exact replica...

Mission of the Viyrans can be heard for free on Soundcloud (the link is posted up top) so I won't go too far into detail. It's a story I encourage people to listen to and I don't want to risk spoilers. Nicola Bryant carries the story, playing a freaked out Peri who's scared on two levels – remember how the people at the party were transforming in a Cronenberg-type fashion (complete with some incredibly spine-scratching sound effects and the creepy effect of repeating Peri's last words as they transform) and a Peri who is trying to figure out just what is going on with the disembodied voices demanding she forget what's going on. Said voices are those of the Viyrans, aliens from another galaxy who, after a millennium of war, have dedicated themselves to eradicating biological weapons across the universe. In this case, Peri has been infected, and the only way to eliminate her as Patient Zero is to force her to forget she was ever a carrier of the virus. It's a very well-done story with some fine acting from Bryant, and helps set up the return of the Viyrans down the road in the Sixth Doctor stories Patient Zero and Blue Forgotten Planet.

So while Mission of the Viyrans is well worth the download, I can't recommend The Mind's Eye unless it's on sale or one is a completest. It serves as a breather between Son of the Dragon and The Bride of Peladon, but Erimem's actions and feelings at the end of Dragon can also serve as a lead-in to Bride. The Mind's Eye really doesn't do anything new with its central concept, and while the main cast carry their weight, the supporting cast just sleepwalks their way through the story, leaving this story nothing but faded fragments in the listener's mind.

Pros
The Mind's Eye
+ Davison, Bryant, and Morris are on point
+ A well-done Fifth Doctor style ending
Mission of the Viyrans
+ Bryant is superb
+ The goose bump inducing sounds of the victims' transformation

Cons
The Mind's Eye
- Script doesn't do anything new with the concept of “dreams vs. reality”
- The performances of the central secondary characters



Cobi's Synopsis – The three-part story The Mind's Eye can't overcome an unambitious script and weak acting in the supporting roles, but the one-part Cronenberg-esque Mission of the Viyrans sees Nicola Bryant give an unforgettable performance.

Next up - Set course for Singapore, 1931. Journey's end.

Paul McGann is the Doctor in...The Girl Who Never Was.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible




Interesting write-up, especially since I consider Genocide Machine to be infinitely superior to the awful Fearmonger.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

The "issue" I had with Mind's Eye was that it didn't try to do anything fresh or original, it just played it safe and did an okay but unspectacular job at it. Mission of the Viyrans is much better in that respect, and though by its nature all the other characters are sidelined, Nicola Bryant does take the opportunity to shine.

Davros1 posted:

Interesting write-up, especially since I consider Genocide Machine to be infinitely superior to the awful Fearmonger.

Yeah I try (and often fail) not to write like whatever my opinion is should be taken as the way EVERYBODY does or would react to it - something about this story failed to resonate with me whereas I was just drawn into The Fearmonger immediately, while that clearly wasn't the case for you.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
I agree that it wasn't the best way to introduce the Daleks to Big Finish, with a weak script and some spotty performances (I felt Ace whined too much and McCoy was just bored the whole time). The library's concept was neat, as was the Dalek's actual plan to sit and wait for a Time Lord in order to break in.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Oh yeah and I should have mentioned it was fun to have the Dalek that was exposed to all that knowledge say,"Hang on a second guys.... our whole "thing" is pretty much wrong, have you considered that?"

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Jerusalem posted:

Oh yeah and I should have mentioned it was fun to have the Dalek that was exposed to all that knowledge say,"Hang on a second guys.... our whole "thing" is pretty much wrong, have you considered that?"

One of the underlying themes of Doctor Who has always been one of the villains going “hang on a moment. Are WE the baddies?”

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

CobiWann posted:

One of the underlying themes of Doctor Who has always been one of the villains going “hang on a moment. Are WE the baddies?”

Has it?

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Maybe not all the villains, but there have been a good number of heel-face turns...Rattigan from The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky comes to mind.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

CobiWann posted:

Maybe not all the villains, but there have been a good number of heel-face turns...Rattigan from The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky comes to mind.

"We've got skulls on our caps."

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

CobiWann posted:

Maybe not all the villains, but there have been a good number of heel-face turns...Rattigan from The Sontaran Strategem/The Poison Sky comes to mind.

I dunno, I think most of the time it's "minor villain finds out that top villain has been lying to them and gets pissed off about it" like Condo in The Brain of Morbius, Crayford in The Android Invasion, Blade and Spencer in The Faceless Ones, The Master in The Claws of Axos, etc.

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!
Eh, I could be stretching the idea based on just one or two stories. I just really appreciate a good “my God what have I done” moment.

Sometimes, you just hope that someone comes to their senses and realizes that what they’re doing or the opinions they hold are simply just wrong. See this year’s Republican crop or After the War’s opinion about The Wormery.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor
Oh, hey, nobody's posted this yet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0326qkd

Prologue to Series 9: Does Steven Moffat Keep the Karn Set in his Back Yard?

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
The Doctor is a total player

(Guess which serial I'm watching)

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
The Aztecs?

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

MrL_JaKiri posted:

The Doctor is a total player

(Guess which serial I'm watching)

Is it Kinda?



Going thorough an Adric episode? That's gotta bring some people together.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Ding ding ding

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

After The War posted:

Oh, hey, nobody's posted this yet: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0326qkd

Prologue to Series 9: Does Steven Moffat Keep the Karn Set in his Back Yard?

Oh great, now I've seen NEW Doctor Who and the wait till the episode airs has become interminable. Seven days? Nobody has EVER had to wait this long for a new episode of Doctor Who :argh:

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
I think the worst Adric story is Four to Doomsday. Shouting about how all women are stupid. I mean I'm fully on board with his "Study mathematics" policy plank, but...

CobiWann
Oct 21, 2009

Have fun!

Jerusalem posted:

Oh great, now I've seen NEW Doctor Who and the wait till the episode airs has become interminable. Seven days? Nobody has EVER had to wait this long for a new episode of Doctor Who :argh:



You don’t know the struggle! Do you know how long I had to wait between Neverland and Zagreus?!?

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

Jerusalem posted:

Oh great, now I've seen NEW Doctor Who and the wait till the episode airs has become interminable. Seven days? Nobody has EVER had to wait this long for a new episode of Doctor Who :argh:

Who could the (male) enemy the Doctor is talking about be? Is it Davros, or the character that Terry Malloy said he couldn't play in Big Finish recently because they'll be showing up this season?

MrL_JaKiri posted:

I think the worst Adric story is Four to Doomsday. Shouting about how all women are stupid. I mean I'm fully on board with his "Study mathematics" policy plank, but...

Ah, the Flesh Time!

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Mm, yes, short clips where characters just talk in cryptic cyphers are always good.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

The_Doctor posted:

Mm, yes, short clips where characters just talk in cryptic cyphers are always good.

The MGS thread is in Games

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

The_Doctor posted:

Mm, yes, short clips where characters just talk in cryptic cyphers are always good.

Yeah, what the gently caress was that about

EDIT - Twelve seems a bit more chilled out, though. That's good to see.

Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Sep 11, 2015

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