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The library itself doesn't keep record of your searches. The ISP obviously knows about all the traffic. The point is just that if you go to the right library, they won't be able to trace activity back to a real-world identity. That's still not for a scenario where you want to google all your usernames every week, or for all your internet activity. The library thing is for a scenario where you want to send an untraceable email or update a blog. That's why it's important to know exactly what the OP is trying to do/avoid.
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Anne Whateley posted:The library itself doesn't keep record of your searches. The ISP obviously knows about all the traffic. The point is just that if you go to the right library, they won't be able to trace activity back to a real-world identity. Depends IIRC the library can't keep paper records of the books you borrow/return but nothing is stopping the local librarian from noticing how Person A took out a lot of survival/gun manuals. Even the computer lab would have people who you would need to check in which is tied to your library card required to access the internet. The only way to be 100% anon if you had a closet full of disguises and IDs for each time you left the house. Isn't tech a wonderful thing? 
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Mar 28, 2015 20:12
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Alder posted:Depends IIRC the library can't keep paper records of the books you borrow/return but nothing is stopping the local librarian from noticing how Person A took out a lot of survival/gun manuals. Even the computer lab would have people who you would need to check in which is tied to your library card required to access the internet. The only way to be 100% anon if you had a closet full of disguises and IDs for each time you left the house. My local library does not require any kind on ID to use their computers. You just sign in to a terminal and it gives you a ticket with a PC number and a time.
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Alder posted:Depends IIRC the library can't keep paper records of the books you borrow/return but nothing is stopping the local librarian from noticing how Person A took out a lot of survival/gun manuals. quote:Even the computer lab would have people who you would need to check in which is tied to your library card required to access the internet. Anne Whateley posted:Depending on what you need to do, best idea is to go to a nonobvious public library that doesn't require login for computer access and doesn't bother with security cameras, tracking of computer timeslots, etc. Bonus points if it also has a warrant canary. Again, this is about what you want to do and who you want to hide it from. If the FBI is five minutes behind you, then it's not a good idea. If you want to send an untraceable email, it's going to be really hard for another private person to figure anything out. Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Mar 28, 2015 |
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Mar 28, 2015 21:39
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Find a library or another institution where you can browse the net on someone elses dime and equipment. Look for video surveillance. If it is in place, find another spot. Once you have found a spot where you can use the equipment without being recorded, move to stage two. Now you need to gain access to the equipment. Make sure you wear gloves so as not to leave fingerprints. Also, wear a hat and shave all your body hair. Cover as much of your body as possible so as to avoid any skin (and DNA) from getting left behind. Wear colored contacts. You might also want to dress as the opposite sex. Hmm...yeah, I think this should allow you to browse anonymously. And of course, don't log into any site or even go to any site that could be associated with your true self. Sounds fun. Okay spyboy, have at it!
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Non Serviam posted:I'm not trying to hide from anyone in particular. It mostly deals, as I mentioned before, in being as secure as possible in a situation where nobody is actively trying to find me, and without actually having to eliminate all my electronics. OK, that's a very different thing from being Edward Snowden. Non Serviam posted:What I see is that there's obviously not a simple answer like "use this, this and this program, avoid these practices, etc. " Yea, there have been decent and authentic encryption services like Lavabit et al. but the gov't started serving court orders to allow for eavesdropping ability. Lava bit founder Ladar Levison: "I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit." Jolly Green Giant posted:Still no threat model... What information do you have and who are you protecting it from? Personally none. I haven't had CC issues online but I have had a few CC issues with local POS transactions as the economy has continued to worsen for many people. Alder posted:Fine, we're all going to prison. Together I'm innocent and not going to prison. On the other hand, Edward Snowden: "If I end up in chains in Guantánamo I can live with that."
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Anne Whateley posted:This thread is about being anonymous on the internet though. Yes, and OP can't hide in the library even. It depends as I went to the NYC library and they wanted a card to use their PCs but on the bright side I can leech off their wifi if I just sit there in NYPL. On the other hand when I went to Queens library and I had to register for a card to borrow wifi. I don't think it's totally possible to be anon online as long as they plan to login anywhere due to Google tracking us as we speak. Unless he does the whole encrypt everything route meant for spies and other people of interest to the govt. By then they should be 99.9% safe but the internet speed might be reduced to dial-up but hey the things you do for security Overall to summarize: Step 1) Don't be illegal Step 2) See above
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Alder posted:Yes, and OP can't hide in the library even. It depends as I went to the NYC library and they wanted a card to use their PCs but on the bright side I can leech off their wifi if I just sit there in NYPL. On the other hand when I went to Queens library and I had to register for a card to borrow wifi. Encrypting everything is only good if your computer doesn't have malware keylogging you, or taking screen captures, or anything like that  it's certainly not foolproof.And remember DPR, the Silk Road guy, used full disk encryption and logged in from public libraries. The government actually had agents stage a fake lovers' quarrel at the library to distract his attention while another agent ran up and took his unlocked laptop.
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ashgromnies posted:Encrypting everything is only good if your computer doesn't have malware keylogging you, or taking screen captures, or anything like that haha holy poo poo, that's amazing. Alder posted:Overall to summarize: Addendum to above: don't associate with probable online criminals. You don't know what they're doing with the access logs from their own forums or whatever.
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ashgromnies posted:And remember DPR, the Silk Road guy, used full disk encryption and logged in from public libraries. The government actually had agents stage a fake lovers' quarrel at the library to distract his attention while another agent ran up and took his unlocked laptop. http://motherboard.vice.com/read/then-the-swat-team-rolls-up-the-first-arrest-of-a-german-deepweb-arms-dealer quote:They were unsuccessful in one thing during the raid, however: acquiring Stefan’s laptop while it was still booted up. While he was suddenly being yanked off the bench, he was somehow still able to pull the power cord from his laptop, which had no battery. Even if the police restart the laptop, its encrypted hard drive will be password-protected.
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Apr 6, 2015 01:20
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Juanito posted:You need to make sure that you're using a laptop without a battery. Good article - thank you for that. Here's another from the same site that should be required reading for Goons: Your Porn Is Watching You NSFW, duh.
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Do any of you smart cookies have any hot tips for deleting facebook accounts? And what potential security flaws would be involved in the following: Find store without cctv outside. Have a stranger buy you a prepaid smart phone. Use said phone from different rural locations, leaving the battery out between times.
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rock rock posted:Find store without cctv outside. rock rock posted:Have a stranger buy you a prepaid smart phone. rock rock posted:Use said phone from different rural locations, leaving the battery out between times. If someone with the right level of authority to access surveillance, debit records, etc. really wants to find you that badly, then they can. All you can do is make it more difficult and hope they get bored / give up / decide you're not worth it. Basically don't do egregiously illegal stuff; the best form of security is to be uninteresting. Purple Prince fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Apr 7, 2015 |
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Apr 7, 2015 14:17
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rock rock posted:Do any of you smart cookies have any hot tips for deleting facebook accounts?
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Juanito posted:You can "delete" your account, but Facebook will never actually get rid of it. Changing names, contact information on the account makes no difference. Facebook just keeps a record of each change made. The account will always be associated with you unfortunately. True story: I got a facebook account when it was still relatively new, around 2006. Back then, nobody I knew was on it, and I wasn't much into social media to begin with, so I deleted my account and forgot all about it. Five years later, in 2011, when I tried to make a new one, it reactivated my account and still had all of my old information on it. It didn't lose a single loving thing. And that was before Facebook figured out how to make money off of your information.
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Purple Prince posted:There's still CCTV en route Purple Prince posted:and transaction records. Purple Prince posted:Why would said stranger do so? Purple Prince posted:You're still relying on someone else which automatically creates a weak point in the chain. Purple Prince posted:You can't remove the battery from most modern smartphones. With an old phone you could probably get away with this, however. Purple Prince posted:Basically don't do egregiously illegal stuff; the best form of security is to be uninteresting. Thanks for the thought out reply.
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Sorry for the double post, I'm phone posting (from the country haha). Regarding the facebook thing, so even that program that was around a couple years ago that deleted your facebook that facebook did their damndest to scrub from the web (I think it went back and deleted all your posts etc), that wouldn't be effective?
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rock rock posted:Sorry for the double post, I'm phone posting (from the country haha). I really don't think that Facebook actually deletes anything that you want to delete. They'll mark it as deleted, and make sure you never see it again, but it's stored internally. This page tells you what information you can get when you download your Facebook account: https://www.facebook.com/help/405183566203254 It's worth downloading your account just to see everything there. I was able to see the hundreds of Removed Friends that I've unfriended or been unfriended by over the years, as well as the many stupid name changes I'd made in the past, when they were more lenient. quote:Messages you’ve sent and received on Facebook. Note, if you've deleted a message it won't be included in your download as it has been deleted from your account. I guess it would depend on what their retention policies are. quote:You will not find information or content that you have deleted because this is deleted from Facebook servers
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Apr 8, 2015 03:22
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Regarding the deleting of messages, they'd presumably still be stored for the recipient and still with your account name
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Unless you know what they do with their backups, there's almost no chance that anything is permanently deleted from Facebook or any other social media site. Having worked on some similar things I can say that, purely out of expediency, there's no way that they're going to remove you from backed-up data even if everything related to you is removed from the active copy of the database. Also, I was talking to a software engineer today who had no clue that, via Google Analytics, site owners could see, for example, what country you're browsing from. He imagined that all traffic would have to pass through a Google server at some point for that to be possible... I had absolutely no idea what to say.
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