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Redwolf
Aug 9, 2011

I do not approve of your posting good sir! Not at all!
Welcome back you damned souls that haunt this thread, its been another fun month on the ceaseless thrill ride that is Australian Politics. March saw the passing of the last vaguely human member of the Liberal party with Malcom Frasier dying of shame after reading one too many articles on the current state of the party, the perhaps even more tragic loss of beloved Queensland icon Jeff the Tyrannosaurus, Labor capitulating on the metadata retention laws like the gutless cowards they are, the Palmer United Party inching ever closer to just being Palmer sitting by himself in the cafeteria crying into his caviar, New South Wales conclusively proving itself to be worse than Queensland and...well lets just get this over with shall we



So that happened. Yes, that is the leader of our nation eating a raw, unskinned onion live on camera as though its a normal thing humans do. Truly Tony's weird, awkward, inhuman nature knows no bounds.

For those of you who are just joining us here is a brief overview of Australia's major political parties largely stolen from Quantum Mechanic.

The Liberal Party of Australia



The Liberal Party are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party currently in power. Led by Tony Abbott they believe in screwing the poor, torturing refugees in tropical prison camps and hanging on to power at all costs.

The Australian Labor Party



The Australian Labor party are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party currently in opposition. Led by Bill Shorten they believe in screwing the poor, torturing refugees in tropical prison camps and regaining power at all costs.

The National Party of Australia



The Nationals are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative parasitic twin latched onto the Liberals and are thus technically in power. Led by the reanimated corpse of Warren Truss they believe in whatever the Liberal party has told them they believe today.

The Australian Greens



The Australian Greens are a motley band of belligerent anarchist rabble whose supporters are heavily represented in the thread. Led by Christine Milne they believe in Scott Ludlum's dreamy, luxiourus hair, free lattes for all, and probably the same things you do unless you're an absolute shitstain of a human being.

The Australian Democrats



The Australian Democrats are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party consisting of forums poster ScreamingLlama. Led by forums poster ScreamingLlama they believe in fabricating a list of 550 members to prevent their imminent deregistration as an official political party.



Continuing my trend of stealing content from other posters, this is a selection of links that used to be attached to the monthly thread that comes courtesy of hambeet. Of course since it came from hambeet that means a lot of it was crap, terrible and painfully out of date. If people have any suggestions for links or anything that could go here please let me know.


Great sources of news, information and opinion
The media in Australia sucks rear end, so try these instead.
Crikey ! Was not on the list because I'm sure everyone know's of it but duck monster pointed out that it was stupid not to included it so now it's here are you happy look now you've upset your brother!
An Onymous Lefty: Left leaning, Victoria-centric blog by Jeremy Sear, Victorian barrister and Crikey contributor (the guy behind Pure Poison)
Caen's Corner: "Some not-so-brief thoughts by a Melbourne lawyer with an interest in criminal law and associated fields". Much more law than politics, but often plainly written and relevant.
Club Troppo: "Fearlessly dispensing political, legal and economic analysis (and some whimsy) since 2002". Left-leaning Aus politics blog. Usually exceptionally well written, and has multiple contributors.
The Conscience Vote: Left-leaning political commentary that I almost always agree with and fervently wish would get published in the place of Michelle Grattan's bile.
The Conversation: "The Conversation is an independent source of information, analysis and commentary from the university and research sector — written by acknowledged experts and delivered directly to the public. Our team of professional editors work with more than 2,800 academic authors to make this wealth of knowledge and expertise accessible to all." i.e. Actual information, before it gets hosed sideways by hack journalists.
The Failed Estate: "Rejuvenating Journalism in a Jaded Age" Australian media is loving terrible, so here is some commentary on it. Those comments are Mr Denmore, who "was a journalist for 26 years. He has worked in radio, television, newspapers and online media. He now works in the corporate sector."
Grog's Gamut: Aus politics commentary (with an economic bent) by Greg Jericho. Well written, well referenced. This guy was blogging during the 2010 federal election, pointing out how poo poo the media is, while being a public servant.
He was outed by The Australian for calling them on their poo poo.
Heathen Scripture: Exceptionally good satirical political commentary, which is unfortunately updated very rarely.
John Quiggin: "Commentary on Australian & world events from a social-democratic perspective" by a Professor of Economics.
Law Geek Down Under: Fairly straight-laced Australian legal news.
New Matilda: Very professional and well written news/politics/current affairs site. One of the better independent sources of Australian news.
News With Nipples: Somewhat casual/hobbyist Australian media/political blogging from a feminist perspective.
The Political Sword: In-depth and substantive politics and policy analysis.
Politically Homeless: Well written political commentary from Andrew Elder, former member of the Liberal Party, "starting off as a libertarian-punk, then as a moderate seeking to preserve rights and freedoms in a changing world; now he scorns the know-nothing Liberals, doesn't trust the left and disdains the other interest groups that flit around Australian politics".
Something Wonky: Dave and Jeremy's new Australian political+media+culture blog/podcast. Replaces Pure Poison formerly of Crikey
Pure Poison: Crikey's "look at the stupid poo poo the Australian media is doing" blog. Been replaced by Something Wonky above, but all of the blog is still viewable
Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodies: A fairly legalistic Australian law blog, with some interesting analysis from time to time.
We Are All Dead: Matt Cowgill, who does economic analysis for the ACTU, posts political and economic stuff. Specialises in debunking trending Liberal talking points.
Wixxyleaks: Wixxy, claims no interest nor relation to Julian Assange. Mostly politics and other good insights. Good investigative piece regarding the Slipper and Thomson affair.
Left Flank: Commentary/analysis from a Marxist perspective.
Overland literary journal: An literary journal. Jeff Sparrow is the editor.
The Piping Shrike: Political blog. It's usually a good read.
Independent Australia: IA is a progressive journal focusing on politics, democracy, the environment, Australian history and Australian identity. IA supports quality investigative journalism as well as citizen journalism and a diversity of voices. It believes Australians are short-changed by the mass media and and so it dedicates itself to seeking out the truth and informing the public.
Reasonable Grounds: News in criminal justice, politics and human rights.


Parliament events calendar: (Thanks eh4).



Refugee stuff
It comes up a lot in this thread because both sides use it to try and win votes because Australia is a racist country. So if you want to learn more about why both major political parties are horrible to Asylum seekers check this out :

Asylum Seeker Resource Centre
Amnesty International
Refugee Action Coalition
Refugee Council of Australia

Former(?) thread poster Emmjay also had this to say

Emmjay posted:

If anyone wants to read an actual book pick-up a copy of Human Rights Overboard. It is an excellent but distressing read. It was published back in 2008 so is a little out of date now but it helped me answer the question 'how the hell did we get in this mess'. ‘The verdict, frankly, is nothing short of horrific. This book reveals something systematically rotten. Not isolated incidents, but a repressive structure …The information gathered is so compelling, so relentless, and derived from so many diverse accounts in different parts of Australia, that accusations of bias must be crushed under its weight.’ Waleed Aly, Australian Literary Review


Courtesy of Belgaer


We have an irc channel, #auspol on synirc where we discuss news, politics and which quantum state of employment Anime Dave is currently existing within.

:siren: Some things to consider before you join #auspol :siren:

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  • Since the irc is full of Australians and therefore poo poo and terrible people who don't think or learn without being repeatedly beaten about the head, we have a word filter that will kick you for saying certain words. These are mostly unfunny jokes chosen by and changing at the capricious whims of the mods, but it also watches out for certain gendered slurs and words which are considered unacceptable, and for which the mods will ban you for one day if you use. We don't apologise for this and don't really care how you feel about it. Please also avoid offensive fake user@hosts, you will be banned until you change them if you want to participate.

  • Shut the gently caress up about wrestling. Goddamn it. Goddamn it.


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Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Redwolf posted:

Welcome back you damned souls that haunt this thread, its been another fun month on the ceaseless thrill ride that is Australian Politics. March saw the passing of the last vaguely human member of the Liberal party with Malcom Frasier dying of shame after reading one too many articles on the current state of the party, the perhaps even more tragic loss of beloved Queensland icon Jeff the Tyrannosaurus, Labor capitulating on the metadata retention laws like the gutless cowards they are, the Palmer United Party inching ever closer to just being Palmer sitting by himself in the cafeteria crying into his caviar, New South Wales conclusively proving itself to be worse than Queensland and...well lets just get this over with shall we



So that happened. Yes, that is the leader of our nation eating a raw, unskinned onion live on camera as though its a normal thing humans do. Truly Tony's weird, awkward, inhuman nature knows no bounds.

For those of you who are just joining us here is a brief overview of Australia's major political parties largely stolen from Quantum Mechanic.

The Liberal Party of Australia



The Liberal Party are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party currently in power. Led by Tony Abbott they believe in screwing the poor, torturing refugees in tropical prison camps and hanging on to power at all costs.

The Australian Labor Party



The Australian Labor party are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party currently in opposition. Led by Bill Shorten they believe in screwing the poor, torturing refugees in tropical prison camps and regaining power at all costs.

The National Party of Australia



The Nationals are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative parasitic twin latched onto the Liberals and are thus technically in power. Led by the reanimated corpse of Warren Truss they believe in whatever the Liberal party has told them they believe today.

The Australian Greens



The Australian Greens are a motley band of belligerent anarchist rabble whose supporters are heavily represented in the thread. Led by Christine Milne they believe in Scott Ludlum's dreamy, luxiourus hair, free lattes for all, and probably the same things you do unless you're an absolute shitstain of a human being.

The Australian Democrats



The Australian Democrats are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party consisting of forums poster ScreamingLlama. Led by forums poster ScreamingLlama they believe in fabricating a list of 550 members to prevent their imminent deregistration as an official political party.




We have an irc channel, #auspol on synirc where we discuss news, politics and which quantum state of employment Anime Dave is currently existing within.

:siren: Some things to consider before you join #auspol :siren:

  • On occasion the channel will become voiced either to cut down on bullshit or more likely because I got bored and wanted to annoy people. We STRONGLY SUGGEST that you register your nick with Nickserv so we can add you to the voiced list. To do so, just /msg nickserv help register and follow the instructions.

  • Since the irc is full of Australians and therefore poo poo and terrible people who don't think or learn without being repeatedly beaten about the head, we have a word filter that will kick you for saying certain words. These are mostly unfunny jokes chosen by and changing at the capricious whims of the mods, but it also watches out for certain gendered slurs and words which are considered unacceptable, and for which the mods will ban you for one day if you use. We don't apologise for this and don't really care how you feel about it. Please also avoid offensive fake user@hosts, you will be banned until you change them if you want to participate.

  • Shut the gently caress up about wrestling. Goddamn it. Goddamn it.




Zeruel
Mar 27, 2010

Alert: bad post spotted.

Blow Hockey

Zetsubou-san
Jan 28, 2015

Cruel Bifaunidas demanded that you [stand]🧍 I require only that you [kneel]🧎
NEW THREAD



NEW HORIZONS

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Zetsubou-san posted:

NEW THREAD
NEW HORIZONS

NEW ZEALAND

oh wait

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

See, that's how you do a thread title.

Thinking
Jan 22, 2009

Reminder that the Jackie Lambie Network will soon be a registered Australian political party and the Democrats won't

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Redwolf posted:

The Australian Democrats



The Australian Democrats are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party consisting of forums poster ScreamingLlama. Led by forums poster ScreamingLlama they believe in fabricating a list of 550 members to prevent their imminent deregistration as an official political party.

Voted 5.

Also RING THE BELLS RING THE BELLS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDiC0huVDs

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
Drawing dicks on the Herald Sun really needs to go to town on that gif

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


cpaf posted:

Reminder that the Jackie Lambie Network will soon be a registered Australian political party and the Democrats won't

Should have named it the Jacqui Jamboree, tbh

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Murodese posted:

Drawing dicks on the Herald Sun really needs to go to town on that gif

Just label the balloon 'surplus' and have dollar signs flying out as it deflates

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."
Looking like the Nats will hang on to Lismore.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Looking like the Nats will hang on to Lismore.

I don't want to shoot the messenger but gently caress you.

TheMightyHandful
Dec 8, 2008

If the Dems get a mention in the OP so should Jacqui's anti halal party should be there - the have the same number of members

Votes 5 regardless.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


I'm waiting for the inevitable holocaust of hurt feelings when people realise the Nationals have thrown their voters totally under the bus over fracking.

Say goodbye to all that farmland and most of the state's fresh water supply.

Ler
Mar 23, 2005

I believe...

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Looking like the Nats will hang on to Lismore.

It's looking seriously close. from what I've read the Greens should be favoured by the 11,000+ postal votes still to be counted, perhaps not as much as originally anticipated but I have a hope that they'll pull through in the end.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe
Become Lambie's Lackey in the Jacqui Lambie Party today!

Aaronicon
Oct 2, 2010

A BLOO BLOO ANYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A "BAD PERSON" WHO DESERVES TO DIE PLEEEASE DONT FALL ALL OVER YOURSELF WHITEWASHING THEM A BLOO BLOO

Endman posted:

I'm waiting for the inevitable holocaust of hurt feelings when people realise the Nationals have thrown their voters totally under the bus over fracking.

Say goodbye to all that farmland and most of the state's fresh water supply.

You're assuming that Nats voters actually vote for them because they think they're doing what's best for the country.

They're voting for the Nats because they've always voted for the Nats. There's literally no other reason. The swing against them is a very small part of their traditional farmer base changing their mind, sure, but I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of it comes from the simple truth of their traditional vote base simply dying of old age and being replaced with an entirely different demographic instead.

hooman posted:

Become Lambie's Lackey in the Jacqui Lambie Party today!

It's the Jacqui Lambie Network! She's basically the Oprah of Tasmania.

GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Redwolf posted:


The Australian Democrats



The Australian Democrats are a pro-capitalist, right-wing, socially-conservative party consisting of forums poster ScreamingLlama. Led by forums poster ScreamingLlama they believe in fabricating a list of 550 members to prevent their imminent deregistration as an official political party.





I hereby register my strenuous objection to this part of the OP on the grounds that you are going too loving far. We (yes, we, there's still plenty of Dems) are still a party as far as the AEC is concerned, and until remain so until such time as the party is actually deregistered. Also stop being a bunch of shitlords carrying on about something that happened twenty years ago that half of today's party membership had no loving control over (due to, you know, being children at the time).


Gods preserve me.

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

Australia: bad country, bad politics, bad posters, bad thread.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


ScreamingLlama posted:

I hereby register my strenuous objection to this part of the OP on the grounds that you are going too loving far. We (yes, we, there's still plenty of Dems) are still a party as far as the AEC is concerned, and until remain so until such time as the party is actually deregistered. Also stop being a bunch of shitlords carrying on about something that happened twenty years ago that half of today's party membership had no loving control over (due to, you know, being children at the time).


Gods preserve me.

:laffo:

Also they're deliberately inheriting the legacy, so what happened 20 years ago does sort of matter m8

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

ScreamingLlama posted:

I hereby register my strenuous objection to this part of the OP on the grounds that you are going too loving far. We (yes, we, there's still plenty of Dems) are still a party as far as the AEC is concerned, and until remain so until such time as the party is actually deregistered. Also stop being a bunch of shitlords carrying on about something that happened twenty years ago that half of today's party membership had no loving control over (due to, you know, being children at the time).


Gods preserve me.

I'm not sure you get how this thread, y'know

works

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


If you don't want to be associated with the mistakes a group made in the past, maybe don't claim to be that same group.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


ScreamingLlama posted:

I hereby register my strenuous objection to this part of the OP on the grounds that you are going too loving far. We (yes, we, there's still plenty of Dems) are still a party as far as the AEC is concerned, and until remain so until such time as the party is actually deregistered. Also stop being a bunch of shitlords carrying on about something that happened twenty years ago that half of today's party membership had no loving control over (due to, you know, being children at the time).


Gods preserve me.

First page of the new thread delivers.

I admire your effort to keep the bastards (in charge of the OP) honest though.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
Ground floor



GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Quantum Mechanic posted:

I'm not sure you get how this thread, y'know

works


Drunken, bitter, angry yobbos mocking everything remotely political while impotently stewing in the futility of their own acts? Smells like auspol.


I'm just saying myself and my beloved party seem to be receiving a disproportionate amount of mockery and abuse.



Endman posted:

If you don't want to be associated with the mistakes a group made in the past, maybe don't claim to be that same group.

I'm not willing to accept the idea that one fuckup means that group should be gone forever. After all, the ALP put Kim Beazley in charge for a long while.

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
Been waiting for the new thread before posting this (Not first dog. Sorry guys).

Employers to be offered cash to place jobseekers in roles lasting only a month

quote:

Employment service providers will be offered cash incentives to place jobseekers in short-term positions as well as longer term ones under changes announced by the federal government on Tuesday.

The new “jobactive” system will offer service providers a payment for filling four week-long vacancies, as well vacancies lasting 12 or 26 weeks.

“In the past we have only paid on 12 and 26-week outcomes,” the prime minister, Tony Abbott, told reporters in Geelong.

“We know there are a lot of short-term jobs available, particularly in regional Australia, there are jobs that are seasonal and these are often the start of someone’s renewed connection with the labour market. That is why an important innovation in this new jobactive system is the four-week outcome payment.”

Abbott said short-term work was “the best possible stepping stone into secure long-term jobs”.

“The best preparation for work is work,” the prime minister said.

The Australian Council of Trade Unions (ACTU) said the policy would “encourage service providers to churn vulnerable jobseekers through multiple short term job contracts in order to claim multiple payments”, ACTU secretary Dave Oliver said.

“The ACTU has consistently advocated for the government to introduce a 52 week payment to incentivise service providers to place jobseekers into long-term work. This would be a much better alternative to a four week payment.”

The initiative, which comes off the back of the Howard-era Job Network policy, has been panned by Labor.

“The government’s return to the failed Job Network model, with a new name, will not help unemployed Australians into work,” shadow employment minister Brendan O’Connor told Guardian Australia.

“We are not convinced the introduction of a new four week payment will do anything to support job seekers into decent work. Instead it will lead to increased jobseeker churn and job insecurity.”

O’Connor said that the Coalition must not take resources away from jobs training.

“Labor is deeply concerned that the new employment services model will in fact leave job seekers without the support they need,” he said.

Under the jobactive scheme, money for training will be provided only if jobseekers need it to secure a position that has already been advertised. Job agencies will have to risk their own money to provide individuals with training they think will be needed to gain employment more broadly.

David Thompson from the peak organisation representing non-profit employment services, Jobs Australia, welcomed the jobactive scheme, but warned that the training element “might be too restrictive”.

He said many long-term unemployed people needed training to reorient themselves to workplaces before applying for specific jobs, and that training could help jobseekers whose industries were suffering job losses.

“The labour market of today and the labour market of tomorrow are very different,” Thompson said.

The employment minister, Eric Abetz, said unemployed people who took on short-term contracts or undertook work for dole programs were healthier.

“All the data tells us that if you are gainfully employed, your mental, physical health, yourself esteem and social interaction are all enhanced and not only for you as an individual but everybody else in your household.

“That is why, for the long term unemployed, to be engaged in work for the dole, for example, is not only an important mechanism to say thank you to your community, but it is also of untold social good to the individual,” he said.

A total of 66 job agencies have been offered contracts to deliver on the jobactive scheme, from the 184 that put in tenders. Their contracts will last for five years rather than three, a move the government said will provide certainty for service providers.

The new scheme begins on July 1 and also includes targeted programs for Indigenous jobseekers based on the work undertaken by mining magnate Andrew Twiggy Forrest, who has conducted a review into Indigenous jobs and training.

“He has been a real apostle of getting away from this training for training’s sake notion and ensuring that people are being prepared, not for training but for work,” Abbott said of Forrest.

The government will implement job targets for Indigenous jobseekers for the first time under the new initiative. The targets will vary from region to region.

“The targets will ensure that employment service providers are finding jobs for Indigenous jobseekers at the same rate as for other job seekers in a region,” a spokesman for the Indigenous affairs minister, Nigel Scullion, told Guardian Australia.

“Providers will also be held accountable for their performance in meeting these targets through the star ratings system. A poor performance will affect an organisation’s star ratings and this will have an impact on whether they are given any future business from the government.”
:stonk:

How the hell do they come up with this poo poo? You're healthier if you're in work? Sure. But there is absolutely no promise of stability with this steaming turd of a policy, and that has the exact opposite effect on many people.

Gutting training as well. I know the training system was rorted no end with the low cost in-house training poo poo that they billed the big bucks for (I got sent through a few of them), but that is an argument for vetting these programs before releasing the funding, not getting rid of them altogether. This either makes training impossible to justify (Since it is for an advertised position that will get filled long before you complete training) or it sets up poo poo so that employers can migrate the training costs of these jobs off onto the government via JSA.

All I see here is more kicking around of job seekers, handouts to those who don't need them, and Abbott giving Twiggy a verbal handjob.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


ScreamingLlama posted:

I'm not willing to accept the idea that one fuckup means that group should be gone forever. After all, the ALP put Kim Beazley in charge for a long while.

It was a pretty gigantic fuckup that undermined the whole point of the party, that being to "keep the bastards honest".

But honestly, I wouldn't mind a resurgence of the Democrats. There's only one left wing party that has seats in either federal house at the moment and it's distressing.

Bill Posters
Apr 27, 2007

I'm tripping right now... Don't fuck this up for me.

Hi Auspol,

Take this avatar as a token of my esteem.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Just as clarification, the ALP has hosed up so much that it should be gone forever, but apparently not.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak

Bill Posters posted:

Hi Auspol,

Take this avatar as a token of my esteem.



Time for everyone to get the same avatar again!

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING
I'm reviving the Russian communist revolution but can we please not talk about all those people the last one killed or tortured or starved to death, I fail to see what that has to do with it. I'm just trying to capitalise on their legacy to scrape together more public support, I don't understand why you need to bring their legacy into it

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

ScreamingLlama posted:

I hereby register my strenuous objection to this part of the OP on the grounds that you are going too loving far. We (yes, we, there's still plenty of Dems) are still a party as far as the AEC is concerned, and until remain so until such time as the party is actually deregistered. Also stop being a bunch of shitlords carrying on about something that happened twenty years ago that half of today's party membership had no loving control over (due to, you know, being children at the time).


Gods preserve me.

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
voted 1

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

ScreamingLlama posted:

Drunken, bitter, angry yobbos mocking everything remotely political while impotently stewing in the futility of their own acts? Smells like auspol.


I'm just saying myself and my beloved party seem to be receiving a disproportionate amount of mockery and abuse.


I'm not willing to accept the idea that one fuckup means that group should be gone forever. After all, the ALP put Kim Beazley in charge for a long while.

What is the dems official position on asylum seekers?

GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Refraining from torturing and raping them in tropical island prison camps and making sure their asylum claims are duly processed. We're pretty big on human rights.

Robodog
Oct 22, 2004

...how does that work?

ScreamingLlama posted:

I hereby register my strenuous objection to this part of the OP on the grounds that you are going too loving far. We (yes, we, there's still plenty of Dems) are still a party as far as the AEC is concerned, and until remain so until such time as the party is actually deregistered. Also stop being a bunch of shitlords carrying on about something that happened twenty years ago that half of today's party membership had no loving control over (due to, you know, being children at the time).


Gods preserve me.

do you guys still have natasha star destroyer? she was p. cool i think she was on good news week?

Murodese
Mar 6, 2007

Think you've got what it takes?
We're looking for fine Men & Women to help Protect the Australian Way of Life.

Become part of the Legend. Defence Jobs.
Erica Betz got in trouble for fantasising vividly about a commonwealth employee that had sex in a motel on the job

e; ^^ she's most well-known for being on the Project and writing articles for Women's Day or some poo poo now I think

Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin

ScreamingLlama posted:

Drunken, bitter, angry yobbos mocking everything remotely political while impotently stewing in the futility of their own acts?

Okay you do get how this thread works, why are you complaining

ScreamingLlama posted:

I'm not willing to accept the idea that one fuckup means that group should be gone forever. After all, the ALP put Kim Beazley in charge for a long while.

Bad argument, the ALP should also be gone forever

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Quantum Mechanic
Apr 25, 2010

Just another fuckwit who thrives on fake moral outrage.
:derp:Waaaah the Christians are out to get me:derp:

lol abbottsgonnawin
FWIW I actually gave the Democrats my third Upper House preference after the Greens and the SA, I just like making fun

Although y'all did run a profoundly stupid libertarian for my seat a few years ago, so maybe work on that

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