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Is obamacare good are bad. If so what is good about it?
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 14:50 |
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 12:18 |
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What could possibly go wrong with a health care bill written by the health insurance industry.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 14:52 |
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I called the Death Panel on my Obamaphone and they said they were Taxed Enough Already!
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 14:53 |
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Obamacare is awesome. We get to shutdown our government and bicker endlessly over a limpwristed bill written by assholes.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:00 |
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It got my brother-in-law and mother-in-law on insurance, so that's good.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:01 |
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One big thing: Medicaid doesn't pay for people at or below the poverty line in all states. It may for example in one state only cover people who are at say 0 - 35% of the poverty level. Obamacare was designed with the idea that they would force all the states to make Medicaid pay for everyone who is at or below the poverty level. So, they made the subsidies, which covered people who are at 100% - 400% of the poverty level, with people getting less money they closer they are to 400%. Except, the bill that would have forced all states to cover people up to 100% of the poverty level didn't pass (or it was repealed due to some lawsuit or something). So, now, there are states where you may be BELOW the poverty line, and DON'T qualify for EITHER Medicaid OR the Obamacare subsidy. Maldoror fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Apr 1, 2015 |
# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:13 |
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Maldoror posted:Except, the bill that would have forced all states to cover people up to 100% of the poverty level didn't pass (or it was repealed due to some lawsuit or something). So it might've worked until libertarians broke it.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:14 |
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Maldoror posted:One big thing: States rights!
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:17 |
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flakeloaf posted:So it might've worked until libertarians broke it. That's.... Not really the message I'm getting OP.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:24 |
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:26 |
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I don't know anything about healthcare but I get the impression its like putting on a band aid on cancer
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:27 |
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Maldoror posted:One big thing: wrong, if you fall in that loophole you are exempt from the mandate GL getting health insurance tho
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:47 |
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i dont want a panel to kill my grandmother, op
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:50 |
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I don't want a panel to kill my sick children, OP.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 15:56 |
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Obamacare is literally communism. *In the sense that the government consists of corporations that control the "law" rather than actually providing services.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:02 |
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is this really a thinly veiled thread to whine about republicans
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:03 |
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Republicans are evil shitbags. There, no more thin veil
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:16 |
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jon stewart 2016
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:17 |
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CISMALES DID 9-11 posted:is this really a thinly veiled thread to whine about republicans
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:18 |
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I'm covered by the VA but if dealing with them is any indication of how government run healthcare is going to be we are hosed.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:20 |
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Fallout from the soon-to-be Iranian nuclear bomb. Thanks Obama.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:20 |
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Maldoror posted:One big thing: Break this down for me. Is Obamacare good or bad.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:21 |
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Sounds like people are saying it's good, but I'm open to other possibilities, such as that it's bad. You can make up your mind immediately, if you want, but I prefer to take stock of the facts and weigh different opinions.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:22 |
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Idk op my job covers medical/dental.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:27 |
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anything that isn't a violent revolution involving the complete destruction of the capitalist society is bad that said obamacare is great, i'm a poor as gently caress college student and it allowed me to afford health care. literally as simple as before it existed i could not afford health insurance and after it was passed i could. still pushing for that violent revolution though
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:28 |
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Maldoror posted:
this is incorrect. if you make too little for a subsidy and your state did not expand medicaid, you do not have to purchase health insurance see here: https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions-tool/#/results/details/secretary-hardship
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:29 |
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cams posted:anything that isn't a violent revolution involving the complete destruction of the capitalist society is bad How is your tuition not covering healthcare? What kind of lovely junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-college do you go to?
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:31 |
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Maldoror posted:So, now, there are states where you may be BELOW the poverty line, and DON'T qualify for EITHER Medicaid OR the Obamacare subsidy. Yet you are REQUIRED BY LAW to PAY for your own health insurance if you don't get it through a job.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:31 |
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SopWATh posted:How is your tuition not covering healthcare? What kind of lovely junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-college do you go to?
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:32 |
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seriously it boggles my mind how many people are so separated from reality that is some "well just go out and tell someone you want a job, they'll put you to work and start paying you right now!" poo poo
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:33 |
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*insurance prices drop, deductibles go through the roof* woo preventative healthcare
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:34 |
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SopWATh posted:How is your tuition not covering healthcare? What kind of lovely junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-junior-college do you go to? lmao look at this fuking guy from Mars over here
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:35 |
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Bro Nerd Alpha posted:I'm covered by the VA but if dealing with them is any indication of how government run healthcare is going to be we are hosed.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:36 |
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It's good I have health insurance now. I still can't afford actual health care tho ;\
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:37 |
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Sancho posted:It's good I have health insurance now. I still can't afford actual health care tho ;\
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:42 |
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Bad, poor people should die.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:42 |
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DaveSplitter posted:Bad, poor people should die. death is progress. imo murder everyone over 50
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:43 |
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oh also anyone that makes over 200k a year what kind of greedy gently caress needs that much money cheeseburgers and weed are cheap as hell
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:43 |
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cams posted:seriously if you make below the poverty line not only are you not fined at all for not having health coverage, you are given a subsidy to pay for it you stupid oval office not in states that declined the medicaid expansion. for that you can blame the idiotic state legislatures themselves, who are perfectly happy loving over their constituents to make a political point, or the supreme court for allowing the to opt out to begin with or obama because he's black
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:51 |
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# ? Mar 19, 2024 12:18 |
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cams posted:uh are you a useless warplane we can force other countries to buy from us or maintenance on an obsolete piece of artillery? no? why the gently caress do you think you deserve my money? Because I caught cancer while in the military. They didn't catch it on my separation screening and because I deployed to a combat zone I was allowed 2 years free coverage after being discharged. Since it was thyroid cancer and involving the endocrine system, if any further problems come up they will take care of it. From my understanding since the endocrine system is pretty much involved in a lot all I have to do is show its connection. Now if I break my leg or something I will have to pay a deductible based on my current income.
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# ? Mar 31, 2015 16:51 |