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EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad
I loved the commentary on the bonus video.

I've already lost track, but I don't think you've flown the F-16UD yet.

Also, is it just me or is the pacing in these scripted missions actually worse than SF2's random missions?

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radintorov
Feb 18, 2011
One neat little touch, even though I believe it's only cosmetic, is that when you locked up a target, you could see the radar switching into TWS mode with the reduced scan cone.

Soup Inspector
Jun 5, 2013
F-16UD, please!

And count me in as another person who got a chuckle out of the bonus vid commentary.

SIGSEGV
Nov 4, 2010


Yeah, that bonus video was all kinds of hilarious.

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011
It probably won't win, but I'm voting for the F/A-18 because twin engines > single engine. :colbert:

Edit:
keeping my vote, but that is a very convincing argument
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

radintorov fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Apr 26, 2015

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


radintorov posted:

It probably won't win, but I'm voting for the F/A-18 because twin engines > single engine. :colbert:

But remember, Selenic has much better luck bombing in F-16s!



Go for the F-16UD

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR
I now know everything I will ever need to about MiGs.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

F-16UD it is. Recorded the mission.

Makrond
Aug 8, 2009

Now that I have all the animes, I can finally
become Emperor of Japan!

Galaga Galaxian posted:

But remember, Selenic has much better luck bombing in F-16s!



Go for the F-16UD

I knew buying this would pay off one day :allears:

The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby
Man, I can't believe I didn't see this thread till now. And it's a game I've neither played nor even heard of before! How exciting :D

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Galaga Galaxian posted:

But remember, Selenic has much better luck bombing in F-16s!
About that...

video 8.1
video 8.2

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I feel like I've learned a lot about MiG's.

For a sim they sure don't simulate proper formations of those enemy ground units. But then again this is the same group that threw away those bombers on an unescorted flight so perhaps what is being simulated is a completely incompetent enemy force.

The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby

Kibayasu posted:

I feel like I've learned a lot about MiG's.

For a sim they sure don't simulate proper formations of those enemy ground units. But then again this is the same group that threw away those bombers on an unescorted flight so perhaps what is being simulated is a completely incompetent enemy force.

Assume it's the Middle East, where everyone except Israel is terrible at this stuff.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

The future is LockMart :911:

video 9.1
video 9.2

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad
It's super weird that they have both the X-35 and the F-35 in the game. Did the first game have both?

Still pretty cool that they got Kermit the Frog to guest as Steelmace 1.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

"I've got a lock on the enemy plane... Oh no, I don't!" :downs:

I don't know if any F-35 is hidden in the first EA since I haven't beaten it, and it doesn't even have a FAQ written for it. The one and only FAQ for aimStrike says a cleared save from EA could supposedly unlock all of its flyables in the second game right from start, so that might be the reason they kept the prototype in the sequel.

Oh, I also got this in my recordings somehow... I wonder if anyone will recognize it just by the picture.

video 9.3

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


A Barnstormer Biplane, a Saab 21 lookalike, and a Bf-109 (and not even mislabeled Me-109!) that is quite an oddball set of planes.

Suspect Bucket
Jan 15, 2012

SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

SelenicMartian posted:


I don't know if any F-35 is hidden in the first EA since I haven't beaten it, and it doesn't even have a FAQ written for it. The one and only FAQ for aimStrike says a cleared save from EA could supposedly unlock all of its flyables in the second game right from start,


And you get that from your uncle who works at Nintendo

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Galaga Galaxian posted:

A Barnstormer Biplane, a Saab 21 lookalike, and a Bf-109 (and not even mislabeled Me-109!) that is quite an oddball set of planes.
Unlockables include a couple of UFOs, an autogyro and an F-117. Imagine that one sucking on a train.

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

SelenicMartian posted:

Unlockables include a couple of UFOs, an autogyro and an F-117. Imagine that one sucking on a train.

Are you going to show us anymore of this game? I'd love to see an autogyro flying into a volcanic eruption.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

I'd love to but I really can't come up with any commentary for it, and there's a lot of crazy flying involved in getting to the volcano.

Soup Inspector
Jun 5, 2013
It seems like the X-35 is no trickier for enemy radars to lock on to than your other aircraft - so I'm presuming that means Energy Airforce doesn't model stealth, then?

SelenicMartian posted:

I'd love to but I really can't come up with any commentary for it, and there's a lot of crazy flying involved in getting to the volcano.

It's a shame you can't think of any commentary for Sky Odyssey, it seems like it's delightfully deranged.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Soup Inspector posted:

It seems like the X-35 is no trickier for enemy radars to lock on to than your other aircraft - so I'm presuming that means Energy Airforce doesn't model stealth, then?

It's time to find out in the new edition of Desert Bus

video 10.1
video 10.2

radintorov
Feb 18, 2011
Ah, yes. Scenario 4-2A.
I honestly cannot blame you for doing the other scenario. :v:

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad
They really make you fly all the way back? There's no way to speed it up? That's crazy!

The F-22 information was really interesting, I can see why the Air Force was so desperate to keep the program.

By the way, why don't Soviet carriers have catapults? Hasn't that been a standard piece of equipment for carriers since the 1920s or 1930s?

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


EasilyConfused posted:

By the way, why don't Soviet carriers have catapults? Hasn't that been a standard piece of equipment for carriers since the 1920s or 1930s?

I didn't think catapults were a thing in WW2 for carriers. I'm aware of the Hurricanes that were strapped to merchant ships using catapults, but not carriers. I know for sure that the American carriers did not use catapults, but they did use arresting hooks.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

EasilyConfused posted:

By the way, why don't Soviet carriers have catapults? Hasn't that been a standard piece of equipment for carriers since the 1920s or 1930s?
The first Soviet carrier for fixed-wing aircraft happened in 1975. http://www.rjlee.org/rcar.html

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

If you will not serve in combat, you will serve on the firing line!




HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

I didn't think catapults were a thing in WW2 for carriers. I'm aware of the Hurricanes that were strapped to merchant ships using catapults, but not carriers. I know for sure that the American carriers did not use catapults, but they did use arresting hooks.

I might be somewhat incorrect on the matter but as far as I recall the reason is something like this:
Back then all carrier bound aircraft were capable of launching from the deck on their own power as long a the ship was sailing into the wind if I remember right.
But as time went on carrier aircraft, both jet and propeller powered became heavier and weren't able to take off on a such a short deck by their own power so another mean to launch them was required.
The Americans went with catapults to launch aircraft. So did the British for a while until their Invincible class ships which were built for the Harrier jet and instead utilized a ski ramp to boost the aircraft STOL capabilities and make it be able to take off without a catapult. Something which the Russians also went with in their case.

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

I didn't think catapults were a thing in WW2 for carriers. I'm aware of the Hurricanes that were strapped to merchant ships using catapults, but not carriers. I know for sure that the American carriers did not use catapults, but they did use arresting hooks.

Yeah, I forgot catapults on carriers were a post-war thing.

From doing a little reading, it seems the only reason not to use catapults is the expense.

EasilyConfused fucked around with this message at 23:41 on May 6, 2015

dbcooper
Mar 21, 2008
Yams Fan

EasilyConfused posted:

Still pretty cool that they got Kermit the Frog to guest as Steelmace 1.

I think Steelmace 1 was voiced by an actual neckbeard. Good to know we're represented in imaginary Air Force missions. :v:

I'm digging the LP. I know next to nothing about aircraft and ordinance and I enjoy the insightful commentary

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Things go boom.

video 11.1
video 11.2
video 11.3

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad
Great update, I cracked up at the "are they cute?" line.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Man, were those Vietnam-era sidewinders they loaded in your F-22? I mean, two misses at that angle and that range...

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

EasilyConfused posted:

Great update, I cracked up at the "are they cute?" line.

I think it's a matter of taste, but there's no doubting that the Flanker is sugoi.

Davin Valkri
Apr 8, 2011

Maybe you're weighing the moral pros and cons but let me assure you that OH MY GOD
SHOOT ME IN THE GODDAMNED FACE
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?!

Wales Grey posted:

I think it's a matter of taste, but there's no doubting that the Flanker is sugoi.

Sugoi, Sukhoi...I get it! :cheeky:

Wales Grey
Jun 20, 2012

Davin Valkri posted:

Sugoi, Sukhoi...I get it! :cheeky:

The Su-27 is pretty sleek, but the Su-33 is Sugoi As All Hell in Ace Combat Assault Horizon.

Soup Inspector
Jun 5, 2013
I noticed occasionally that the LPI text was crossed out; presumably this means that for some reason you're more easily detectable. But it didn't appear to actually affect anything, so what does it actually indicate?

Ignore me if Selenic Martian did in fact explain this and I am just too dumb to pay attention. :v:

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

I think LPI is crossed out if it's not applicable, e.g. in the nav mode when your radar is off anyway.
Recording raw footage for the next update took me an hour and a half. :stare: I can vouch now that enemy radar-guided missiles do work, they just take ages to fire.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Cascading structural failure.

video 12.1
video 12.2
video 12.3
video 12.4



Probably a coincidence...

So, what will it be, 5A or 5B?

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The Casualty
Sep 29, 2006
Security Clearance: Pop Secret


Whiny baby
So the F-14 never gets unlocked? That's disappointing.

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