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nielsm posted:Okay so they did skip a bunch of book material between S1 and S2 of the anime?
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I can think of only one solution to this problem *owns myself*
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Apr 15, 2015 21:08
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Okay rewatching the actual last episode of S1 cleared things up better for me. The one Crunchyroll lists as episode 13 is some weird bonus that doesn't seem to fit there chronologically.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:48
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Episodes 11 and 12 were the Culture Festival and the bonus episode 13 was the Sports Festival. Not sure when they normally happen but when I lived there it was during the same week. 
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Apr 15, 2015 22:12
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Mmm, I'd say the LNs and the anime are roughly equal? A lot of the stuff the anime prunes out is side-character stuff (Hikigaya plays Uno with the guys!), most of which is extraneous and some of which is good (talking with the teacher over ramen). The anime hits every major point and all of the important bits of Hikigaya's narration are preserved in the anime, while the cuts make the material generally move much faster. If you only want to look at one, watch the anime. If you really like the series and want more of it, then there's the LNs. Mind, this assumes that the anime continues on as it has, because the series just generally gets better as it goes. If it screws the pooch at some point then by all means go read the LNs.
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Apr 16, 2015 01:34
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Well, that scene in the donut shop managed to be awkward as hell. Eguchi really nailed the voice acting there.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:12
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Einander posted:Mmm, I'd say the LNs and the anime are roughly equal? A lot of the stuff the anime prunes out is side-character stuff (Hikigaya plays Uno with the guys!), most of which is extraneous and some of which is good (talking with the teacher over ramen). The anime hits every major point and all of the important bits of Hikigaya's narration are preserved in the anime, while the cuts make the material generally move much faster. This makes me wonder how far the second season will go. I mean, as far as I know there are like... 10 or 11 volumes currently out? And volume 6.5 or whatever.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:18
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Triggerhappypilot posted:Well, that scene in the donut shop managed to be awkward as hell. Eguchi really nailed the voice acting there. Also, 8man got his rear end whupped this episode, oh my god. ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:This makes me wonder how far the second season will go. I mean, as far as I know there are like... 10 or 11 volumes currently out? And volume 6.5 or whatever. Personally, I really, really want the season to end on Volume 9 + 6.5 Bonus Track, it'd be much more satisfying that way.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:25
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That isn't satisfying for the author's bank account though, so chances are we get a cliffhanger ending
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Apr 17, 2015 05:30
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Is CR still on a delay for this show?
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Apr 17, 2015 05:37
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TBS has been burned too often on simulcasts ergo the delay.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:43
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Coaaab posted:TBS has been burned too often on simulcasts ergo the delay. What's the story behind this? Also wow, did they recast little sister completely or what? I didn't notice it last episode but she sounds completely different (to what I remember, at least)
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Apr 17, 2015 05:45
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Emalde posted:Also wow, did they recast little sister completely or what? I didn't notice it last episode but she sounds completely different (to what I remember, at least) It's still Aoi Yuuki, but the change of studio and director probably means that she got told to tone down the hyperactive.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:59
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Triggerhappypilot posted:It's still Aoi Yuuki, but the change of studio and director probably means that she got told to tone down the hyperactive. Coaaab fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Apr 17, 2015 06:00
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Emalde posted:Is CR still on a delay for this show?
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Apr 17, 2015 16:20
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the coffee shop scene was so incredibly awkward
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Apr 17, 2015 22:51
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That was Yukino's big sister right? She's scary.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:17
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Hayato take it down a notch dude 
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Apr 24, 2015 07:48
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Those piano pieces in the background have been doing an excellent job of setting the tone, with the cover of the S1 ED for that sunset scene being a particular highlight.The_Frag_Man posted:That was Yukino's big sister right? She's scary.
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Apr 24, 2015 08:09
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That was a great episode. It seems our hero read between the lines and understood Yui's declaration. Also Hayato is cool. He's smart too.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:06
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I really didn't expect this show to get a second season. Guess I'll need to finish up the first one soon then.
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Apr 25, 2015 11:59
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Emalde posted:Hayato take it down a notch dude Nah, Hayato owns and going 'Hey, see what it's like?' was a pretty decent shot at showing Hiki the real cost of his actions.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:05
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Sakurazuka posted:Nah, Hayato owns and going 'Hey, see what it's like?' was a pretty decent shot at showing Hiki the real cost of his actions. Meanwhile Hachiman is just profoundly uncomfortable. Up until that point he had been politely taking it all and interacting with the girls the minimum amount necessary; being nice. Suddenly the whole thing is a mess and his expression during the whole scene is this mixture of shock and dismay and confusion. The way he responds to Hayato afterwards is really awkward as a result. The way Yukino's older sister describes him kind of captures this: He sees malice everywhere, so his brain is literally unable to process what is going on here - not only is someone actively being kind but it's hard to read any malice into it, there's obviously nothing but benevolent intent. Simultaneously, Hayato is talking him up in a way that nobody else in the environment would - what he says about Hachiman's relationship with Yui & Yukino is fairly accurate but that seems like something he actively does not want to accept or acknowledge. Yukino's sister is a real manipulative monster but most importantly, I don't quite have a read on what her goals were in this episode. She was obviously using Hachiman as a tool, but for what ends? She clearly likes messing with him and Hayato for entertainment, but it seemed like she knew that this would contribute to Yukino running for president (to avoid seeing Hachiman hurt again) and maybe there was some other objective as well? Her having the phone number of Hachiman's little sister is... deeply unsettling, somehow. Does she have every single person in her little sister's social graph on speed-dial? I think this is one of the only episodes where we get a full, strong depiction of what Hachiman was probably like before the series starts: This extremely strong sense of learned helplessness, a defensive behavior where he just retreats and does the bare minimum necessary to endure things until they end. He was probably doing this for years and years. That former classmate is interesting too. It's hard to figure out what her deal is. I imagine she has motives that would be clearer in the LNs.
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Kaelan Zero posted:For me the most interesting thing about that scene: You get the impression that Hayato actually hurt a handful of people with it - bringing Yui and Yukino over in time to watch him do that and see how Hachiman responded. They get this glimpse into how bad he was being treated all day and simultaneously they're being used as props to stage this scene to make the lovely girls feel bad. That's the feeling I got from the way they were acting during that whole scene. The only thing I can think of regarding Yukino and her sister is: I think Haruno is forcing Yukino to make a decision on whether or not she wants to take action in actively helping Hikigaya and bringing him around to a point where they can have a healthy relationship. Basically forcing her to act on her feelings instead of letting others resolve everything. At the same time, Yukino taking action by running in the election has forced Yuigahama's hand too which is why she's now planning on running as well. Yuigahama almost straight out confessed again but she knows now that the early damage done to Hikigaya needs to be fixed before anything can happen on that front. Also I enjoyed reading your analysis of that scene, it cleared a couple things up for me as well. Also it felt really good to see someone sticking up for Hikigaya (even if it wasn't necessarily the "right" way, it was *his* way) e: Also god drat Hayato wasn't kidding when he said Haruno likes to thoroughly crush people she doesn't like. She basically took these two girls who were being lovely to Hikigaya and made their idol of affection tell them they are the worst and should shut up. Razzled fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Apr 25, 2015 14:26
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tbh i don't think there's all that much to the former classmate besides being a dick
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Apr 25, 2015 14:27
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Razzled posted:e: Also god drat Hayato wasn't kidding when he said Haruno likes to thoroughly crush people she doesn't like. She basically took these two girls who were being lovely to Hikigaya and made their idol of affection tell them they are the worst and should shut up. I guess she (evil sister) was in on the plan. Or maybe it was her idea? E: It seemed like it was Hayato's idea, but maybe big sister just made him think that.
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Apr 25, 2015 14:39
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Hayato...might actually own!?
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paragon1 posted:Hayato...might actually own!?
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Apr 25, 2015 20:00
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Anyone understand what the Haruno meant when she said she learned what she came there for? I suspect Haruno has some kind of hold on Hayato and is able to get him to do things he would rather not do. Otherwise, things wouldn't have worked out the way they did. Haruno obviously has an unnatural interest in Hikigaya, but I can't tell if her intentions are evil or good.
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Apr 25, 2015 21:58
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The impression I get is that Hayama liked Haruno and confessed to her at some point in the past. She's constantly teasing him about how much more boring he is than Hikki, her initial is Y. (Yukinoshita Haruno), etc. He also showed a bit of jealousy towards Hikigaya last episode when he pointed out that she only torments the people she likes. Actually, I thought this was supposed to be obvious, or at least as obvious as anything else in this show. They were constantly pointing out the parallels between his situation and Hikigaya's, with the other girl.
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Apr 25, 2015 22:27
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Hayama seems to see Hikigaya as someone essentially like himself, who just happens to see himself as too worthless to bother with society. Unfortunately, he isn't (totally) correct, which is sort of the point. If his little stunt had any positive effect, it was in a vastly different way than he expected. The central tragedy of the show seems to be that everyone thinks they have a perfect read of everyone around them, and that leads to disappointment and frustration when they fail to live up to their expectations. Ironically, the only one who appears to have an accurate view of how people actually are is Haruno, who's the most unreadable of the lot.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:34
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I don't think Hayama is inherently wrong about Hikki, Hikki's defenses are just too strong. Trying to help him any way at all implies that he's weak in some way, and he can't afford to let himself believe that. His whole identity at this point is caught up in "they're not rejecting me, I'm rejecting them", so I don't think it's even possible for him to accept outside help. I guess you could twist that into "Hayama's understanding of him was too shallow", but I don't think it really matters what Hayama did.
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Apr 27, 2015 09:41
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Clarste posted:I don't think Hayama is inherently wrong about Hikki, Hikki's defenses are just too strong. Trying to help him any way at all implies that he's weak in some way, and he can't afford to let himself believe that. His whole identity at this point is caught up in "they're not rejecting me, I'm rejecting them", so I don't think it's even possible for him to accept outside help. I think you hit the nail on the head about hikigaya. He's built up this very robust self assured solidarity to protect himself from being hurt again and that is now his biggest obstacle course in self growth. In order to move forward he has to bring down his defenses and leave himself vulnerable again and believe that his friends will be there to hold him up this time. That's how I see it so far anyway
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Razzled posted:I think you hit the nail on the head about hikigaya. He's built up this very robust self assured solidarity to protect himself from being hurt again and that is now his biggest obstacle course in self growth. In order to move forward he has to bring down his defenses and leave himself vulnerable again and believe that his friends will be there to hold him up this time. You're exactly right. That's why that teacher put him in the club in the first place, because that kind of thing wont happen while he's secluding himself.
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Apr 27, 2015 14:31
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I Can't Believe My Anime is This Psychological!
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Apr 27, 2015 14:39
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Sakurazuka posted:I Can't Believe My Anime is This Psychological! The Saika stuff is amusing since I assumed it was added to S1 & S2 to appeal to the rotten demographic, but I guess it was actually all over in the original work? Judging by the stuff I've seen from the VN it might have actually been more amped-up in the original. 
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Apr 27, 2015 16:10
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HikkiXSaika is my OTP and I seriously wish the show would go in that direction instead of just playing it for laughs.
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Apr 27, 2015 16:13
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the very fact that there is a season 2 indicates sales were at least okay. i also googled it and it got 10th place last year outselling the pedo fate spinoff and kiniro mosaic. its first blu ray also sold out on the first day, so yeah good sales edit: looking at various sale graphs its always in the top 10, sometimes going as high as place 4
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Apr 27, 2015 16:17
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Sakurazuka posted:HikkiXSaika is my OTP and I seriously wish the show would go in that direction instead of just playing it for laughs.
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Sakurazuka posted:HikkiXSaika is my OTP and I seriously wish the show would go in that direction instead of just playing it for laughs. They should at least make it an OVA alternative ending or something.
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