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Aye Doc posted:the leafs fanbase shoulld start a Milbury/McGuire 2015 rally imo
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Mr. Kite posted:Thoughts on the Kings: Surprised you didn't mention the emergence of McNabb, who looks excellent.
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Oh my word Rosie DiMannoquote:How do you measure the sullenness of a Kessel, the black hole of nothingness in Phaneuf’s heart, the escalating indifference of James van Riesmsdyk, the between-the-ears frailty of Jonathan Bernier — pulled three times in March alone — and the chronic callowness of Jake Gardiner.
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Apr 12, 2015 17:38
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evenworse username posted:Leafs have fired Horacek and Nonis I guess? Carlyle is gone, Nonis is gone and the Leafs have a top 5 pick. All things considered it was a good season.
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Apr 12, 2015 17:39
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Aye Doc posted:the leafs fanbase shoulld start a Milbury/McGuire 2015 rally imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OemNp6hgX4
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Apr 12, 2015 17:39
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Mirtle says the Panthers resigned Jagr? I gotta get off Twitter.
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evenworse username posted:Oh my word Rosie DiManno emelin for gardiner, prust for van riesmsdyk
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Apr 12, 2015 18:24
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Arabian Jesus posted:Carlyle is gone, Nonis is gone and the Leafs have a top 5 pick. All things considered it was a good season.
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Apr 12, 2015 19:04
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Apparently the leafs also fired 18 scouts
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Apr 12, 2015 19:14
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I heard James Reimer is the leading candidate for GM.
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Apr 12, 2015 19:21
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abuse culture. posted:Apparently the leafs also fired 18 scouts GM, Coach, Assistant Coaches and 18 scouts today Shanahan probably got to use the giant "YOU'RE FIRED" rubber stamp today, didn't he?
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Apr 12, 2015 19:24
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After drinking and thinking about it Chairelli needs to be fired and fired so bad That Boychuk deal, still one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen, dealing a top 4 or top 2 d-man to keep a washed up Simon Gagne
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Apr 12, 2015 19:24
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Cannot wait for Dubas to be promoted and get to deal with the horseshit that is
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Apr 12, 2015 19:27
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evenworse username posted:Mirtle says the Panthers resigned Jagr? One year contract. Hell yeah, this team is gonna own. Now we just need Jagr to teach McDavid as well..
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Apr 12, 2015 21:14
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@Rich_Hammond Rather epic session with Dean Lombardi. He confirmed that players had locker-room incident with Sutter but didn’t seem upset. More to come tl;dr: LA Kings locked Daryl Sutter out of the room after a loss and barricaded the door with large recycle bins because they didn't want to be berated for their play again.
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Apr 12, 2015 21:17
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Aye Doc posted:the leafs fanbase shoulld start a Milbury/McGuire 2015 rally imo I want to see what McGuire could do as a GM so bring it on, its not like he could make them worse. I of course say this as not a leafs fan
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Apr 12, 2015 22:07
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sbaldrick posted:I want to see what McGuire could do as a GM so bring it on, its not like he could make them worse. Always fielding the youngest NHL team with the average age around ~18-19 
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Apr 12, 2015 22:20
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kessel would never get traded, his big body and active stick and firm yet supple butt, thighs, and hips are all big pluses for mcguire
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Apr 12, 2015 22:42
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evenworse username posted:Oh my word Rosie DiManno Gardiner is DiManno's favorite probably. There were long discussions in the press zone. quote:Jaromir Jagr is no longer the player he once was. I believe it was Jvr and Bozak personal difficulties that affected the season the most. http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2013/05/07/jake_gardiner_stepping_up_his_game_for_maple_leafs_dimanno.html
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Apr 12, 2015 23:15
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Zamboni Jesus posted:emelin for gardiner, prust for van riesmsdyk It would be worth it to do it right now just to prevent either from playing during the playoffs.
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ITT I try to find at least a couple positive things to say about every eliminated team. Group hug effortpost. And someone please correct me anywhere I'm wrong, just how I see this. Boston Tuukka Rask is an underrated goalie and while he likely won't have a year like Carey Price did this year or anything, you can do a hell of a lot worse than him *looks at last 20 years of Flyers goaltending, weeps*. You'll likely get at least one more year out of Chara. Florida Goddamn y'all have serious potential to be spooky in a couple years. Yours is a team with a lot of great youth and getting another year with Jagr is fantastic. I honestly feel like Barkov is going to develop into something special over the next couple seasons. Huberdeau looks great as well. Columbus Almost nobody wants to play against your team when they're healthy because you're really hard to match up against. There isn't necessarily a pairing of mega-stars on your team but y'all can clearly run 4 lines without hesitation regardless of who the other team sends out. Over the last 3-4 years you're easily one of the most improved teams in the entire league. Sergei Bobrovsky is going to be able to hold the fort for a long time as well. Philly Everything's in flux right now but I think anyone who thinks we were better off under Holmgren than Hextall is either delusional or a liar. Thanks to some good drafting and an overall strategy of patience, there's a lot of potential in the system. Steve Mason was otherworldly and while he likely won't repeat this year's performance, I think we could be doing a lot worse in net. If we can get even an average defense built up that's going to be a huge overall improvement. New Jersey NJ seems to be struggling to find an identity as a team, but it's not as if there isn't talent available. Cory Schneider is gonna be great in goal for you for years. Lou seems to want to be the Jerry Jones of the NHL and if he could curb that attitude that it would sure as hell help matters. Carolina God drat are Eric and Jordan Staal fun to watch. Nathan Gerbe has the balls to go into the goalmouth and even try pushing people around and it's hilarious and great. Cam Ward is younger than I thought he was and he's not gonna be top-shelf talent but you can still get some good service out of him. Toronto Hey! You finally fired almost everyone! That's gotta be a good sign, right? ...right?  Joking aside, it's really clear Toronto's problems are in the front office more than on the ice. Kessel is a gloriously ugly man who can score gloriously pretty goals. JVR is strong like bull and should keep being good for 50+ points a year for quite a while. If you can get the front office issues fixed, this is going to be a very solid team. Buffalo Ted Nolan deserved better!  Buffalo isn't going to be a playoff team for probably at least a couple years but man there's some really good potential here. Evander Kane clearly needed a new setting and if they do well over this and next year's draft they can start to make some noise in the east. Kane + McDavid/Eichel would be a riot to watch. Go weeeeeeeeeeeeest {full disclosure, I don't know a lot about western teams, sorry!) Los Angeles Things are on the downswing after a 2-cup run, but it's not as if they're in a tailspin. Jonathan Quick is still a hell of a goaltender. Jeff Carter still has some good years left in him. Anze Kopitar is spectacular. Tweak the offense a bit and they should be fine in the long run. Also hey Sutter please stop yelling at your guys so much that they lock you out of the dressing room. Dallas Dallas strikes me as a team like Florida or the Isles. There's some great youth on this team and if they can get some improved goaltending they could get over the hump. Goddamn is Jamie Benn a hell of a player. Tyler Seguin is only going to get better as well. Colorado See Also: Dallas, Florida. Here's a bunch more of impressive youth that just seem a little rudderless right now. I don't know how Patrick Roy is going to work out for them long term but it shouldn't be too difficult to get a team with this much potential on the up and up. I mean holy poo poo your average age of forwards is like 23 or something and there are some potentially scary motherfuckers among them. San Jose God I love Brent Burns and his sasquatch hair. Tomas Hertl is The Truth and when he's healthy he's going to tear poo poo up. Your team deserves a better front office. Edmonton God bless you fans because yall are loving dedicated. Edmonton strikes me as a team with some good talent (at least up front) but no real direction overall. There are teams that would kill to have forwards like Hall, Eberly, Yak or RNH to build around (or with) but it doesn't seem like Edmonton knows what they want to build. Like SJ and NJ, it seems like the biggest problems are in the front office. Shame because even a modicum of good decision-making up there would improve this team ten-fold. It did seem like things started coming together a bit better under the new coach so here's hoping that continues. And for the record, Yak's Theo Fleury celebration from a year or two ago is still one of the best I've seen in years. Arizona I gotta be honest here, I know next to nothing about Arizona. I'm happy they got at least some stability in terms of whether or not they're staying as a franchise. Ekman-Larsson is a really good defender and Hanzal is gonna be good when he's healthy.
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There's something everyone is forgetting about Florida, or I should say someone. Nick Bjugstad led the team in goals with 24 despite missing the last ten games of the season with an injury that required back surgery. He's going to be really good next year and will shove one of Kopecky and Thornton off the team. Now if Quinton Howden or Rocco Grimaldi can finally make the jump, or if we manage to win the draft lottery somehow, the Panthers will have a really good and (mostly) young Top 9.
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Apr 13, 2015 15:13
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I don't think anyone's still underrating Rask.
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Apr 13, 2015 15:23
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Aphrodite posted:I don't think anyone's still underrating Rask. True, maybe I just didn't pay as much attention this year or something (entirely possible)
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Apr 13, 2015 15:24
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it's funny how chiarelli and julien have gone from being regarded as amongst the best in the league to being a liability within the space of basically a season. amazing what missing the playoffs will do I guess. a lot of their problem seems to be that they are really convinced about some kind of "bruins way", which mostly emphasizes character bullshit and suggests that those running the team don't actually realize what made the team good to begin with.
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Apr 13, 2015 15:27
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Who thought Chiarelli was good?
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Apr 13, 2015 15:32
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Yak City is close to signing a bridge deal with Edmonton according to Kypreos
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My opinion on Chiarelli has kind of soured over the years. He made some good moves early on, but really since the Kessel trade he hasn't done anything to significantly improve the team. He's done a good job of signing the important players, but at the same time he's also signed useless guys for longer than necessary because it seems like he's trying to stick with the formula that won them the Cup. He also often gets credit for the moves Jeff Gorton made as interim GM, which definitely propped up his reputation a bit more than it should. Maybe they can get Gorton to come back. Julien I'm more mixed about. He's a very good coach but I wonder if, like management, he's kind of stuck in the same mindset that they need to stick to the system and style of play that got them to two finals in three years, and the roster just isn't the same and frankly not quite as good as those teams were just by virtue of players leaving/getting older. I wouldn't mind if Julien stayed, but I would kind of like to see what a different coach could do with the team. I think it would be too reactionary to fire him right now.
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the sabres were very bad the last two years. here are some reasons why they will be very good in a short period of time zemgus girgensons - he's young, he's fast, and he's shown himself capable of dragging his teammates up and down the ice to produce points. and he's a good two-way player on top of that. he's already good, and he's going to get even better. tyler ennis - if you watched any number of buffalo games down the stretch, you saw that ennis was always buzzing around the puck and looking surprisingly dangerous on a really bad team. he's a very solid offensive forward who will become even more dangerous when he's not the only threat rasmus ristolainen - everyone on the sabres has a terrible plus/minus. risto is a 20 yr old #1 defenseman who had his share of growing pains, but his game has made huge strides in his first full year in the nhl. his composure is incredible for someone his age nikita zadorov - he's got ridiculous physical assets and has shown a lot of growth in a short period of time. like other young guys on the team, he found himself in nolan's doghouse at various points of the season for reasons of varying degrees of legitimacy. he's already a servicable nhl defender at 20 years old, but i think he turns into more than that in the next couple seasons johan larsson - former minnesota wild property. he doesn't get talked about very much outside of buffalo, but he had a bit of a coming out party towards the tail end of the season after numerous trips back and forth between the nhl and ahl. underlying fancy stats for possession have always been good, but he's also started producing nhl points on top of that. zach bogosian - the noted cokefiend looked good in his short time with the team this season. he's physical, can move the puck well, and can log a lot of minutes. evander kane - i'm not sure what the deal was with him in winnipeg, but he's obviously got a lot of talent and plays with intensity. i think he returns to 30-goal form on one of buffalo's top two lines. mark pysyk - another guy that doesn't get a lot of press outside of buffalo. he's an extremely smart defender who does a lot of things well. he hasn't gotten a ton of nhl time, but he's looked very good when he has been up. provided he's healthy (he fainted playing a game of basketball a short time ago and they shut him down for the season for precautionary reasons), he'll be a big addition to the blueline sam reinhart - he'll play at least some of his time in the nhl next season. he had problems engaging physically in his first nine games with the sabres, but he spent the remainder of the year working on his strength. he already thinks the game at an nhl-level. once he adapts to the speed of the league, he'll be real good. anders...lindback? - in 20 games with buffalo, lindback carried a .924 sv%. his performance exceeded everyone's expectations--so much so that goalie coach arturs irbe is the only member of nolan's coaching staff that didn't get canned. bad goalies turning out to be good was a common theme this season, so gently caress it, why not? other names to keep an eye out for: jake mccabe, anthony florentino, hudson fasching
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I think you are being way too optimistic about how good they will be. Basically all of your predictions are "he's going to play up to the highest expectations projected of him". I don't think the Sabres are going to be the league whipping boy anymore, but I don't think they're going to be a "very good" team either.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:I think you are being way too optimistic about how good they will be. Basically all of your predictions are "he's going to play up to the highest expectations projected of him". I don't think the Sabres are going to be the league whipping boy anymore, but I don't think they're going to be a "very good" team either. they're not going to be "very good" next year, but i don't think it's out of line to expect players younger than 21 who have already had successful nhl stints to become even better, especially when the team signs and trades for established players to place around them. i'm not expecting every single one of their prospects to reach their max potential, but with the exception of reinhart (and yeah, probably lindback), every person on that list has already shown they are capable of being productive nhlers. i'm not exactly projecting hof careers for players that have never played an nhl game in their life here; i didn't even include mceichel
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It feels like the opinions of coaches and GMs depend solely on what their record indicates. I seem to remember a time that Boudreau caught a lot of poo poo here before he was fired, and then magically became a great coach again in Anaheim.
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Aye Doc posted:Yak City is close to signing a bridge deal with Edmonton according to Kypreos two years, 2.5m per 
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Ryane Clowe, according to he and Lamoriello, will probably never play hockey again. Looks like a Chris Pronger situation with the Devils getting out of his cap hit during the season is in order, which I figure Lou knew would happen. Also, Salvador says he has to decide about playing another season, he might retire, and if he doesn't, I doubt Lou would want him back with the young defense away. I take it Andy Greene will be the next captain. Devils are gonna have like $25m in cap space. To the guy who said Rask was underrated, you're aware he has been largely regarded as one of the very best in the game for a couple years and put up 2.04/.930/7 shutouts just last year right?
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The Toronto Star posted:
I disagree with the last sentence here. Bernier's like a lizard and Reimer's a rose-tinted snowflake. One lonely road win in 2015. Fewest of the season at 8, with Buffalo and Edmonton at 9. Six Leafs wins in regulation in the final fifty games of the 2015 season. I enjoyed the last game. Colton Orr was there, there was no military demonstration, and the first line scored again. Phaneuf was paired with Reilly over Brewer. The salute at the end was disharmonic. I missed #s 25 and 26. Too bad you need some kind of subscription for stats like this.
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:To the guy who said Rask was underrated, you're aware he has been largely regarded as one of the very best in the game for a couple years and put up 2.04/.930/7 shutouts just last year right? Rask is: The Angry Goalie http://google.ca/search?q=tukka+rask+angry+man The only constant was at the end of the bench 
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Brodeurs Nanny posted:To the guy who said Rask was underrated, you're aware he has been largely regarded as one of the very best in the game for a couple years and put up 2.04/.930/7 shutouts just last year right? Haha ya that's a ridiculous statement to make about the reigning Vezina winner. This year Rask faced the second most shots in the league, posted a 2.30/.922/3 shutouts (well above average, basically) and it was, statistically, his worst season as a starting goalie. In other Bruins news. Paille and Campbell have been told that they won't be re-signed. 
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Jamwad Hilder posted:In other Bruins news. Paille and Campbell have been told that they won't be re-signed. god is great
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Apr 13, 2015 18:10
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I guess I need a new avatar.
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Find a picture of Lucic eating a hamburger. Classic Lucic.
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