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youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp
Tyrion is the rape baby of insane king targ guy, which is why Tywin hated him, and why Tyrion doesn't die after killing Tywin. Who kills a relative and doesn't die pretty quickly after? Rob stark kills a distant cousin and then gets killed at red wedding. Drogo kills his brother in law and gets killed by poison right after. Tyrion kills his father and goes on MRA adventure fun? No. Tywin was not Tyrions father.

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Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Are Targs like Cylons?

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

tywin hated tyrion because tywin was an rear end in a top hat and hated his dwarf son. theres no reason to assume he was a targaryon and also theres literally no textual evidence for it

Borrowed Ladder
May 4, 2007

monarch of the sleeping marches
Jamie killed his cousin and he's doing great!

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp
They're incesty Fire demons

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp

TEAYCHES posted:

tywin hated tyrion because tywin was an rear end in a top hat and hated his dwarf son. theres no reason to assume he was a targaryon and also theres literally no textual evidence for it

King nutter was hot for tywins wife, and Tywin moved himself and his wife back to lannister land shortly after king crazy ordered tywins wife to his chambers. Then Tyrion was born.

Diet Coke Can
Jul 25, 2004
Wtf...

Tsinava
Nov 15, 2009

by Ralp
Tyrion is enough of a Mary Sue already, he doesn't need to be a targaryen

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp

Tsinava posted:

Tyrion is enough of a Mary Sue already, he doesn't need to be a targaryen

Word, but it's true and happening.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

youre wife posted:

Word, but it's true and happening.

nahh, gurm isn't that bad

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Tsinava posted:

Tyrion is enough of a Mary Sue already, he doesn't need to be a targaryen

You cannot be a Mary Sue if you are an ugly noseless dwarf, dude.

I mean you can still be a sort of self-insert but if you are an ugly noseless dwarf who ends up going from about as good as a dwarf can get to doing fuckin' Dwarf Clown Acts for some pirate-slavers you're not a Mary Sue.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
Tywins not the type to raise a midget if it's really not his, he'd have tossed that targ dwarve baby off the nearest bridge. Why'd he shame the Lannister name by raising someone elses mini son.

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

nahh, gurm isn't that bad

He is tho. He throws in a lot of purple prose about food, and red herrings, and murders to distract you, but he is that bad.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Nah, Jaimie and Cersei are far more likely to be Targs. Tywin hated Tyrion because he reminded him too much of himself but was also deformed and sort of caused the death of the only person in the world he felt any real emotion for.

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp

Supreme Allah posted:

Tywins not the type to raise a midget if it's really not his, he'd have tossed that targ dwarve baby off the nearest bridge. Why'd he shame the Lannister name by raising someone elses mini son.

And openly kill the bastard of the ruling power? No. He would wait for someone else to overthrow, back that guy in the last minute, and torture the bastard as much as he could get away with while he waits.

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

youre wife posted:

He is tho. He throws in a lot of purple prose about food, and red herrings, and murders to distract you, but he is that bad.

The last few books throw away that "anyone can die at any time" gimmick (it was kind of lame but also the only unique thing the series had going for it) and replace it with anyone-can-come-back-at-any-time. This dead person comes back as a zoombie. This one comes back as a different kind of zombie. This one is a frankenstein monster. This one wasn't really dead. This one faked his death. This one had his death faked with magic, you saw him die but it wasn't really him, he's been this other person the whole time.

Also Darkstar is his favorite character, he really thought people would like Darkstar, he was confused why they didn't.

GRRM is a poo poo.

burritolingus
Nov 6, 2007

by Ralp

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

The last few books throw away that "anyone can die at any time" gimmick (it was kind of lame but also the only unique thing the series had going for it) and replace it with anyone-can-come-back-at-any-time. This dead person comes back as a zoombie. This one comes back as a different kind of zombie. This one is a frankenstein monster. This one wasn't really dead. This one faked his death. This one had his death faked with magic, you saw him die but it wasn't really him, he's been this other person the whole time.

Also Darkstar is his favorite character, he really thought people would like Darkstar, he was confused why they didn't.

GRRM is a poo poo.

gently caress you Headless Ned is the best character in the series.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Best character is Tywins sister who gives no fucks, Dolorous Ed and Greatjon Umber.


Darkstar barely does anything and has very little personality. Oberyn was popular because he was a flamboyant bisexual pimp. Some knight can't rea work as Oberyn 2.0 if he doesn't at least gently caress a few dudes.

Two Free Toppings
Jul 1, 2007

SUCK
THE
SHIT
OUT
OF
MY
OWN
ASSHOLE

Blurry Gray Thing posted:


Also Darkstar is his favorite character, he really thought people would like Darkstar, he was confused why they didn't.

GRRM is a poo poo.

Wasn't Darkstar in like one chapter and he cut up the little girls face? How was he supposed to be likable.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
I dont know what that fat gently caress bumped his head into with darkstar -- he just invented a random guy whose supposedly a great dangerous swordsman with anime hair and eyes and he named him dark star, then he had him fail at killing a kid.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Supreme Allah posted:

I dont know what that fat gently caress bumped his head into with darkstar -- he just invented a random guy whose supposedly a great dangerous swordsman with anime hair and eyes and he named him dark star, then he had him fail at killing a kid.

lol

PantsandCola
Aug 17, 2013

you did good... you did good
im targaryen

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Pansacola posted:

im targaryen

fire and blood motherfucker!

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003
General Martok had the best targ

SHARTING BEAR
Sep 27, 2004

who the gently caress cares

Tsinava
Nov 15, 2009

by Ralp

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

You cannot be a Mary Sue if you are an ugly noseless dwarf, dude.

I mean you can still be a sort of self-insert but if you are an ugly noseless dwarf who ends up going from about as good as a dwarf can get to doing fuckin' Dwarf Clown Acts for some pirate-slavers you're not a Mary Sue.

A Mary Sue is a self-insert personality that has all the traits that is supposed to make the reader like them.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

SHARTING BEAR posted:

who the gently caress cares

'bout 60,000 HBO customers

the great deceiver
Sep 23, 2003

why the feds worried bout me clockin on this corner/
when there's politicians out here gettin popped in arizona
tyrion is of house hufflepuff

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp
Oh hey, there's a buzzfeed with like gifs and stuff on it:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/lukebailey/its-raining-in-castamere

Case closed.

SHARTING BEAR
Sep 27, 2004

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

'bout 60,000 HBO customers

so it's another vietnam

Starving Autist
Oct 20, 2007

by Ralp
lol you watch gay of thrones

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

SHARTING BEAR posted:

so it's another vietnam

much less casualties

Blurry Gray Thing
Jun 3, 2009

Tsinava posted:

A Mary Sue is a self-insert personality that has all the traits that is supposed to make the reader like them.

lol, no. Literally not what it means even if you're a giant fag who uses the term at every opportunity. Being an idealized character is the most important part. Being a self-insert is common but not necessary. It's a wish-fulfillment character. Not even GRRM honestly wishes he was an ugly dwarf.

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp
Also, they seem to have dropped the aegon plot entirely from the show, cuz he's so obvs not aegon or any other targ. So Tyrion is the third targ.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

youre wife posted:

Also, they seem to have dropped the aegon plot entirely from the show, cuz he's so obvs not aegon or any other targ. So Tyrion is the third targ.

He's a blackfyre

youre wife
Dec 25, 2014

by Ralp

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

He's a blackfyre

He's not a sword!

Wait. Oh crap. You're right! The prince that was promised isn't three targs. It's not Dani or Jon or Tyrion. It's a blackfyre with their sigil of a three headed dragon. :o

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

youre wife posted:

He's not a sword!

Wait. Oh crap. You're right! The prince that was promised isn't three targs. It's not Dani or Jon or Tyrion. It's a blackfyre with their sigil of a three headed dragon. :o

:wink:

Sizone
Sep 13, 2007

by LadyAmbien
targ

http://wiseti.blogspot.com/2009/10/targ-episode-1.html

David Copperfield
Mar 14, 2004


im david copperfield
Otoh Tyrion is the only Lannister anything like Tywin

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Tsinava
Nov 15, 2009

by Ralp

Blurry Gray Thing posted:

lol, no. Literally not what it means even if you're a giant fag who uses the term at every opportunity. Being an idealized character is the most important part. Being a self-insert is common but not necessary. It's a wish-fulfillment character. Not even GRRM honestly wishes he was an ugly dwarf.

im sorry that your favorite character is a lame power fantasy

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