Why I really hate SomethingAwful

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Highly Unnecessary: Dec 24, 2009

What bothers me is the SA culture in general. I've thought about it at length yesterday, and realized that SA are essentially a bunch of jealous ludites. Here are some examples why that is true:

1) Furry fandom is a community of incredibly artistic people, full of painters, writers, musicians, and entertainers, who organize, put together huge international conventions, and raise hundreds of thousands for charity while contributing tens of millions of dollars to local economies of the cities hosting those conventions. The only thing SA contributed is to make fun of them.

2) SecondLife allowed for unprecedented communication, collaboration, and creativity. Players there got a chance to explore design, fashion, and architecture skills they never even knew they had. They used their creative skills to make new games, experiment with fashion in virtual space, and practice things like investment and business/real estate management before building real life businesses using those skills. People there earned from thousands to millions of dollars using nothing other than their brains and creativity. The only thing SA contributed is to make fun of them by making random penises fly around, and when told that they are causing serious damage and costing actual money, their only reply was, "don't take it so seriously."

3) Bitcoin is a new financial concept entirely without precedent. We are only scratching the surface of what is possible with it. The only reason it has any value (and the thing SA seems to focus most on) is that it is impossible to duplicate, and has a guaranteed limit on quantity, which is extremely unusual in the copy/paste digital world. But besides inflation resistance, it can do awesome things like, for the first time ever, allow software to own valuable property. This was never possible before, w/ closest thing being that a program could control bank accounts or own contracts in someone else's name. Now, for the first time, it's possible for a program or a "virus" to own money, decide on its own how to spend it, and actually take it with it as it travels around the web. The possibilities for AI, concept of property, and ownership/copyright law are mind boggling. This is just one example of many that Bitcoin allows for, and those that realize such possibilities are working hard to make them come true, earning real money in the process (as much as $6,000 a day, or $2.3mil a year). The only thing SA has contributed was to willfully stay ignorant of basic finance and economics and make fun of those involved with bitcoinOther than that, all they are able to do is stare at the system without understanding it, or being able to figure out how to make anything out of it. As they have with SecondLife, or any other fandom or technology.

All this makes me think that SA goons have absolutely no imagination or drive. On the contrary, the group seems to be based around making fun of anyone who shows any sort of imagination, or attempts something out of the ordinary. They are like a pot of crabs, grabbing and dragging anyone who dares try to escape and achieve something back down with them. The group has no accomplishments to its name, other than being a nuisance to everyone else, and providing a circle-jerk of entertainment to its members in the style of bullying people they don't even want to understand. Any discovery of scammers or bad people in other communities is at most a purely accidental result of them being so eager to try to attack anything and anyone. This of course suggests that the SA group consists primarily of losers, who lack any initiative, imagination, or drive, and who's actions only suggest that they are jealous of those who do (which is perfectly exemplified by their whining about how Bitcoin is unfair, benefits early adopters, and their insistence on the belief that everyone involved with it is a selfish idiot who's only philosophy is "F*** you, got mine."). And judging by the few people I know in that group, including even my ex, that seems to be completely true.

My biggest pet peeve is ignorance; especially willful ignorance. Racists, religious extremists, jingoists, and ludites who believe they are right, and everyone else is an idiot, who are afraid of anything they don't understand, and actively try to avoid understanding or learning new ideas. SA is in that group, and that's why I hate them.

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# ? Apr 24, 2024 22:27

Pot Smoke Phoenix: Aug 15, 2007; Smoke 'em if you gottem!; Dinosaur Gum

Didn't read. Have fun at Reddit!

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:03

Otto von Ruthless: Oct 1, 2014

agreed

edit: with the op that is

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:03

Lunchmeat Larry: Nov 3, 2012

im gonna hatefuck all your pretty mouth-holes

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:03

Rush Limbo: Sep 5, 2005; its with a full house

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:03

rezatahs: Jun 9, 2001; by Smythe

why would anyone read all that?

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:04

Kosmo Gallion: Sep 13, 2013

Loetax sell SA for bitcoin

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:05

de_dust: Jan 21, 2009; she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:06

Hobohemian: Sep 30, 2005; by XyloJW

Furry, second life, bitcoin. That would be a hat trick, if this were 3 years ago.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:06

Mr. Pumroy: May 20, 2001

sounds like you've got a lot to get off your chest. have you told your therapist about all this?

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:06

Nurge: Feb 4, 2009; by Reene; Fun Shoe

I didn't actually read the OP but from the first words of the paragraphs I think you're some kind of a furry bitcoin enthusiast so I sincerely hope you get over your brain problems. Namaste.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:07

Tigern: Sep 6, 2012; possibly tiger; Grimey Drawer

Furries are weird and gross

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:07

quakster: Jul 21, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

please use your bottom to engulf a cactus, op

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:07

Ancient Mariner: Jan 14, 2015; by Lowtax

Highly Unnecessary posted:

What bothers me is the SA culture in general. I've thought about it at length yesterday, and realized that SA are essentially a bunch of jealous ludites. Here are some examples why that is true:

1) Furry fandom is a community of incredibly artistic people, full of painters, writers, musicians, and entertainers, who organize, put together huge international conventions, and raise hundreds of thousands for charity while contributing tens of millions of dollars to local economies of the cities hosting those conventions. The only thing SA contributed is to make fun of them.

2) SecondLife allowed for unprecedented communication, collaboration, and creativity. Players there got a chance to explore design, fashion, and architecture skills they never even knew they had. They used their creative skills to make new games, experiment with fashion in virtual space, and practice things like investment and business/real estate management before building real life businesses using those skills. People there earned from thousands to millions of dollars using nothing other than their brains and creativity. The only thing SA contributed is to make fun of them by making random penises fly around, and when told that they are causing serious damage and costing actual money, their only reply was, "don't take it so seriously."

3) Bitcoin is a new financial concept entirely without precedent. We are only scratching the surface of what is possible with it. The only reason it has any value (and the thing SA seems to focus most on) is that it is impossible to duplicate, and has a guaranteed limit on quantity, which is extremely unusual in the copy/paste digital world. But besides inflation resistance, it can do awesome things like, for the first time ever, allow software to own valuable property. This was never possible before, w/ closest thing being that a program could control bank accounts or own contracts in someone else's name. Now, for the first time, it's possible for a program or a "virus" to own money, decide on its own how to spend it, and actually take it with it as it travels around the web. The possibilities for AI, concept of property, and ownership/copyright law are mind boggling. This is just one example of many that Bitcoin allows for, and those that realize such possibilities are working hard to make them come true, earning real money in the process (as much as $6,000 a day, or $2.3mil a year). The only thing SA has contributed was to willfully stay ignorant of basic finance and economics and make fun of those involved with bitcoinOther than that, all they are able to do is stare at the system without understanding it, or being able to figure out how to make anything out of it. As they have with SecondLife, or any other fandom or technology.

All this makes me think that SA goons have absolutely no imagination or drive. On the contrary, the group seems to be based around making fun of anyone who shows any sort of imagination, or attempts something out of the ordinary. They are like a pot of crabs, grabbing and dragging anyone who dares try to escape and achieve something back down with them. The group has no accomplishments to its name, other than being a nuisance to everyone else, and providing a circle-jerk of entertainment to its members in the style of bullying people they don't even want to understand. Any discovery of scammers or bad people in other communities is at most a purely accidental result of them being so eager to try to attack anything and anyone. This of course suggests that the SA group consists primarily of losers, who lack any initiative, imagination, or drive, and who's actions only suggest that they are jealous of those who do (which is perfectly exemplified by their whining about how Bitcoin is unfair, benefits early adopters, and their insistence on the belief that everyone involved with it is a selfish idiot who's only philosophy is "F*** you, got mine."). And judging by the few people I know in that group, including even my ex, that seems to be completely true.

My biggest pet peeve is ignorance; especially willful ignorance. Racists, religious extremists, jingoists, and ludites who believe they are right, and everyone else is an idiot, who are afraid of anything they don't understand, and actively try to avoid understanding or learning new ideas. SA is in that group, and that's why I hate them.

source your quotes

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:07

ballistics statistics: Nov 27, 2003; God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title

I'm gay.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:11

Zeluth: May 12, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Oh relax, sheesh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrExTlkwkko

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:11

Ride The Gravitron: May 2, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Ancient Mariner posted:

source your quotes

Don't. The best part of these threads are the idiots who come out thinking the OP is being earnest.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:12

Ocean Book: Sep 27, 2010; - hi

Highly Unnecessary posted:

All this makes me think that SA goons have absolutely no imagination or drive. On the contrary, the group seems to be based around making fun of anyone who shows any sort of imagination, or attempts something out of the ordinary. They are like a pot of crabs, grabbing and dragging anyone who dares try to escape and achieve something back down with them. The group has no accomplishments to its name, other than being a nuisance to everyone else, and providing a circle-jerk of entertainment to its members in the style of bullying people they don't even want to understand. Any discovery of scammers or bad people in other communities is at most a purely accidental result of them being so eager to try to attack anything and anyone. This of course suggests that the SA group consists primarily of losers, who lack any initiative, imagination, or drive, and who's actions only suggest that they are jealous of those who do (which is perfectly exemplified by their whining about how Bitcoin is unfair, benefits early adopters, and their insistence on the belief that everyone involved with it is a selfish idiot who's only philosophy is "F*** you, got mine."). And judging by the few people I know in that group, including even my ex, that seems to be completely true.

quote:

Contemporary strivers lack the tools with which people in the past have differentiated themselves from their peers: They live in a post-virtue, post-religion, post-aristocracy age. They lack the skills or inspiration to create something of genuine worth. They have been conditioned to find all but the most conventional and compromised politics worthy of contempt. They are denied even the cold comfort of identification with career, as they cope with the deadening tedium and meaninglessness of work by calling attention to it over and over again, as if acknowledging it somehow elevates them above it.

Into this vacuum comes a relief that is profoundly rational in context�the self as consumer and critic. Given the emptiness of the material conditions of their lives, the formerly manic competitors must come to invest the cultural goods they consume with great meaning. Meaning must be made somewhere; no one will countenance standing for nothing. So the poor proxy of media and cultural consumption comes to define the individual. In many ways, cultural products such as movies, music, clothes, and media are the perfect vehicle for the endless division of people into strata of knowingness, savvy, and cultural value.

These cultural products have no quantifiable value, yet their relative value is fiercely debated as if some such quantifiable understanding could be reached. They are easily mined for ancillary content, the TV recaps and record reviews and endless fulminating in comments and forums that spread like weeds. (Does anyone who watches Mad Men not blog about it?) They are bound up with celebrity, both real and petty. They can inspire and so trick us into believing that our reactions are similarly worthy of inspiration. And they are complex and varied enough that there is always more to know and more rarefied territory to reach, the better to climb the ladder one rung higher than the person the next desk over.

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Likewise, the internet exists to perpetuate the idea that there is some meaningful difference between fans of this band or that, of Android or Apple, or that there is a Slate lifestyle and a This Recording lifestyle and one for Gawker or The Hairpin or wherever. Not a word of it is true. There are no Apple people. Buying an iPad does nothing to delineate you from anyone else. Nothing separates a Budweiser man from a microbrew guy. That our society insists that there are differences here is only our longest con.

This endless posturing, pregnant with anxiety and roiling with class resentment, ultimately pleases no one. Yet this emptiness doesn�t compel people to turn away from the sorting mechanism. Instead, it draws them further and further in. Faced with the failure of their cultural affinities to define an authentic and fulfilling self, postcollegiate middle-class upwardly-oriented-if-not-upwardly-mobile Americans double down on the importance of these affinities and confront the continued failure with a formless resentment. The bitterness that surrounds these distinctions is a product of their inability to actually make us distinct.

The savviest of the media and culture websites tap into this resentment as directly as they dare. They write endlessly about what is overrated. They assign specific and damning personality traits to the fan bases of unworthy cultural objects. They invite comments that tediously parse microscopic distinctions in cultural consumption. They engage in criticism as a kind of preemptive strike against those who actually create. They glamorize pettiness in aesthetic taste. The few artistic works they lionize are praised to the point of absurdity, as various acolytes try to outdo each other in hyperbole. They relentlessly push the central narrative that their readers crave, that consumption is achievement and that creators are to be distrusted and �put in their place.� They deny the frequently sad but inescapable reality that consumption is not creation and that only the genuinely creative act can reveal the self.

This, then, is the role of the resentment machine: to amplify meaningless differences and assign to them vast importance for the quality of individuals. For those who are writing the most prominent parts of the internet�the bloggers, the trendsetters, the �ber-Tweeters, the tastemakers, the linkers, the creators of memes and online norms�online life is taking the place of the creation of the self, and doing so poorly.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:12

Alien Sex Manual: Dec 14, 2010; is not a sandwich

Hobohemian posted:

Furry, second life, bitcoin. That would be a hat trick, if this were 3 years ago.

I'm pretty sure it was, yes.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:15

demonicon: Mar 29, 2011

You know what is truly wrong with sa? No one is going to read your well thought out post but everyone will still reply.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:15

old beast lunatic: Nov 3, 2004; by Hand Knit

someone post the furboner coffee table

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:16

Bicyclops: Aug 27, 2004

ThaGrandCow posted:

I'm gay.

This catchphrase is so dead, it's been dead for like a decade.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:17

demonicon: Mar 29, 2011

Bicyclops posted:

This catchphrase is so dead, it's been dead for like a decade.

You but now it's posted :airquote:

ironically :airquote:

you know, it's okay to poo poo post and be terribly unfunny, just gotta do it ironic.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:18

Bicyclops: Aug 27, 2004

demonicon posted:

You but now it's posted ironically you know, it's okay to poo poo post and be terribly unfunny, just gotta do it ironic.

Same is true with hating women and using the words mom won't let you use to describe them, if you do it in irony fashion, it's not really hate.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:20

Howard Beale: Feb 22, 2001; It's like this, Peanut

pretty internet hate machine

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:20

JazzFlight: Apr 29, 2006; Oooooooooooh!

InterFaced posted:

someone post the furboner coffee table

yeah the funniest thing about that quote is that the guy who wrote it had that erotic furry coffee table lol

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:24

Mahuum Aqoha: Jan 15, 2004; SHEPARD!
Do it for the universe!; Fun Shoe

Lmao at furry art being good. It's anime foxes and tigers all the way down.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:24

Vincent Van Goatse: Nov 8, 2006; Enjoy every sandwich.; Smellrose

Highly Unnecessary

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:25

Professor of Cats: Mar 22, 2009

Edgy

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:25

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

JazzFlight posted:

erotic furry coffee table

i need to see this

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:25

toggle: Nov 7, 2005

rezatahs posted:

why would anyone read all that?

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:32

Smash it Smash hit: Dec 30, 2009; prettay, prettay

I read all your post OP and I will make it my life mission to correct SA and make it as good as you and I.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:37

FlimFlam Imam: Mar 1, 2007; Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams

Goons not liking what I like...ARGH!! :argh:

It's a world wide internet out there, I'm sure you can find lots of places to talk about the furry art you plan to buy with your bitcoins.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:37

voodoo dog: Jun 6, 2001; Gun Saliva

At least he has a fitting user name.

EDIT:
:nws:

https://ircimg.net/UQqrY.jpg :nws:

voodoo dog fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Apr 17, 2015

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:40

tada.wav: Dec 24, 2013

Volume posted:

Don't. The best part of these threads are the idiots who come out thinking the OP is being earnest.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 16:40

big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

Highly Unnecessary posted:

1) Furry fandom is a community of incredibly artistic people, full of painters, writers, musicians, and entertainers, who organize, put together huge international conventions, and raise hundreds of thousands for charity while contributing tens of millions of dollars to local economies of the cities hosting those conventions. The only thing SA contributed is to make fun of them.

This should be enough to earn OP one of those furry stars.

# ? Apr 17, 2015 17:07