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Jastiger posted:
U gotta get his name and address and signature to transfer ownership. I don't know who it is -> I can't do that. They also put up a stink if he isn't there in person to transfer ownership, since the buyer is supposed to turn in the paperwork (even though only the seller is going to have this ticket problem) Basically if he gets pulled over then loving good because he didn't register it under his name so it is still legally mine.
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Apr 18, 2015 03:47
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I had to tell the police that I wrote on the bill of sale that a stipulation of the sale was he turned in the form and he didn't so he doesn't own it yet and has stolen it. Its the stupidest hassle in the world and still isn't resolved until they find the stupid thing which they wont because they aren't going to look for a $200 moped that was reported stolen.
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Apr 18, 2015 03:49
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They were really annoyed at filing it and told me i should instead find it myself and get a bunch of big guys to sit on it till he comes to ride it around and basically kidnap him to the DMV lol.
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Apr 18, 2015 03:53
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Stereotype posted:They were really annoyed at filing it and told me i should instead find it myself and get a bunch of big guys to sit on it till he comes to ride it around and basically kidnap him to the DMV lol. Stereotype posted:then not registering the sale with the DMV I get your argument, and it is a raw deal... but how else are the ticketing agents supposed to know whose bike their ticketing if you don't tell the DMV its not your bike? Otherwise, people could be all, "Oh, I have $x,000 in tickets? Well I sold the bike to [some random rear end in a top hat] so blame him not me."
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Apr 18, 2015 04:04
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Join cop block on facebook and call officers pigs because one time a cop gave you a ticket and he was mad at you because you parked in a fire lane and didn't have insurance. You had to take the bus, and that's bullshit. From now on, every time you are speeding and get pulled over you must record the dirty pig writing you a ticket and aggressively assert your half knowledge of basic freedoms, incorrectly and haphazardly.
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Apr 18, 2015 04:10
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Stereotype posted:U gotta get his name and address and signature to transfer ownership. I don't know who it is -> I can't do that. They also put up a stink if he isn't there in person to transfer ownership, since the buyer is supposed to turn in the paperwork (even though only the seller is going to have this ticket problem) Seriously if that were me I'd immediately file it as stolen and force him to come over and sign documents that way. So long as it's considered stolen I can't see how they can prosecute you on tickets. It should have been filed but that doesn't mean someone gets a free parking pass forever with no consequence. Also I'm not mad at cops. Just that I tied to do the right thing and am still punished as if I didn't. gently caress that.
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Apr 18, 2015 04:18
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When I sell cars I carve the VIN into the arm of the person who is buying it with a knife. If that ain't enough for transfer, they should be able to match up the Hep C.
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Apr 18, 2015 04:20
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Drunk Nerds posted:I get your argument, and it is a raw deal... but how else are the ticketing agents supposed to know whose bike their ticketing if you don't tell the DMV its not your bike? No I get it, I understand why it is done, but its annoying I can't "abandon" the vehicle. If I'm caught driving it I'd get a ticket for driving an unregistered or stolen vehicle and probably have the bike impounded. It is illegal to drive an unregistered bike, so it isn't like this is One Weird Trick An idiot Found To Avoid Parking Tickets. Just in the future I'm going to make sure to sell all my vehicles / large dangerous items at the place of registration. Its more an issue for insurance liability in the large scale anyway.
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Apr 18, 2015 04:30
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I used to put my ticket on other cars and it would work maybe 10% of the time. These were tickets from a campus not a city
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Apr 18, 2015 04:33
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SpicyMeatSandwich posted:I used to put my ticket on other cars and it would work maybe 10% of the time. These were tickets from a campus not a city This was how I found out it never got reregistered. a year after I sold it the guy starts illegally parking on campus and they put a hold on my registration till I paid them or gave them a form from the DMV that it isn't mine anymore.
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Apr 18, 2015 04:34
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Mailed in my appeal on the ticket today. I used a lot of tough language and threatened more legal action. I'll keep you goons updated. Will we get justice or will big government win the day?
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Apr 18, 2015 16:09
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Why don't you just pay the $15, you hosed up and didn't buy enough time In case you don't get how you were treated differently, the other people were at risk for getting tickets immediately and you weren't. You bought 15 minutes of time and got it. Maybe next time buy 5 more minutes in case you need it? Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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Apr 18, 2015 16:14
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Jastiger posted:I feel violated. How does it feel to be made a bitch?
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Apr 18, 2015 16:23
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OP, I know the feeling. That situation really sucks!
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Apr 18, 2015 16:34
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Stefan Prodan posted:Why don't you just pay the $15, you hosed up and didn't buy enough time This is a grave injustice. Give uncle sam EVERYTHING just in case you get caught! Sounds like some Police State bullshit.
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Apr 18, 2015 18:29
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I know this is a troll thread but I hope nobody actually believes that if you buy a certain amount of time you are somehow entitled to more time than that just because
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Apr 18, 2015 18:44
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Stefan Prodan posted:I know this is a troll thread but I hope nobody actually believes that if you buy a certain amount of time you are somehow entitled to more time than that just because If you are me, then yes you are. Every other misdemeanor has mitigating circumstances or levels of severity. Speeding 5-10 vs over 20. Murder 1, 2, and 3. Armed assault or simply assualt. But no. This, if you go .01 second over the allotted time, you are treated exactly the same as if I'd left my car there for 8 hours without paying a dime. It is a true travesty!
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Apr 18, 2015 19:52
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Uh I'm pretty sure if you left it there for even more than a couple hours they'd tow it and you'd have to pay to get to the tow place and some more money to get your car out so no I doubt it's the same penalty
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Apr 18, 2015 20:40
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http://discharge-debt.com/id73.htm Looks pretty legit to me.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:43
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Stefan Prodan posted:Uh I'm pretty sure if you left it there for even more than a couple hours they'd tow it and you'd have to pay to get to the tow place and some more money to get your car out so no I doubt it's the same penalty Doubtful. If I had just parked and paid no money to the meter I'd get the same ticket as if I was 1 second over. This means the incentive is to pay more than the allotted time or to not pay at all since the penalty is the exact same for someone that never did either one.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:33
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I mean I'm pretty sure you are trolling but because I'm bad at not being trolled: You are paying for the amount of time you think you will use. If you aren't sure, then maybe pay for a little more than you need so you have it just in case! If you aren't sure you will be back in that time, you are accepting the risk that maybe you will have to pay $15.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:42
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Stefan Prodan posted:I mean I'm pretty sure you are trolling but because I'm bad at not being trolled: I, too, agree you should always over pay with no recompense because its perfectly valid in all other transactions to unilaterally change the amount owed for a service.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:58
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Jastiger posted:I, too, agree you should always over pay with no recompense because its perfectly valid in all other transactions to unilaterally change the amount owed for a service. Why would you always over pay? Just get back to the car on time you idiot??? Also, please never get a cell phone, I'm pretty sure the concept of having to pay for blocks of data that you might go over and have to pay extra would kill you
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Apr 18, 2015 23:19
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Stefan Prodan posted:Why would you always over pay? Just get back to the car on time you idiot??? Data plan pricing models are bullshit though.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:14
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I don't necessarily disagree I'm just saying I can't imagine buying 1 GB of data and then going over and being like WHAT I THOUGHT THAT MOVIE WOULD ONLY USE 50 MB BUT IT USED 51 MB AND THEY CHARGED ME WHEN I WENT OVER WHAT THE gently caress??? Like, you knew what you were paying for and you used more than that. You can't be shocked when you end up paying whatever the penalty is. I mostly agree that data plans are more bullshit because they could price them however they want whereas there is an actual infrastructure cost associated with replacing the parking meters with some other scheme where you pay afterwards based on the time you used.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:16
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Yeah, if you go over your data cap it is still your own dumb fault, but they price them in such a way to goad you into coming close to the cap, and then faceraping you with overages that have absolutely no relationship to the cost of the service, etc. Also they are the creation of telecoms, which means they are prima facie bad and scammy. For instance, when I got off the plane in Ecuador last week, before I shut cellular data off on my phone, AT&T helpfully offered that I could connect for the bargain price of $20/MB. That's right, these customer-first altruists were willing to bite the bullet and charge me $20,000 per gig in a country with a well-developed and pretty cheap cellular system. While not precisely an overage, it is, I think an indication of the general scamminess of telecomms. That's the difference to me, parking meters are not designed to trick and punish for obscene profit; they are, like parking in Mike Ermantraut's lot, quite simple and usually mastered on the first try. In closing, im gay, but not nearly as gay as cell phone companies.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:38
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Jastiger posted:Realtalk: It really pisses me off when people don't pay the parking meters. I feel like its a total dick move. Its why I'm so pissed I got this ticket because I DID pay the meter and I still get treated as if I didn't. You should show up to court dressed as Thomas Jefferson, and rant about unfair fines and taxation. They'll be so amazed at your dedication they'll have no choice but to throw out the case.
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Apr 19, 2015 00:40
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Introduce that Alabama 'Gather Your Armies' primary ad from 2010 as evidence, imo: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6iQ7ZDUutU4
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Apr 19, 2015 00:42
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Stefan Prodan posted:Why would you always over pay? Just get back to the car on time you idiot??? I don't think its a fair analogy. Using data 1KB over 1GB doesn't "deprive" someone else of that KB since the data stream is well beyond what you've used. In parking spots you'd be "taking" the spot from someone else....ostensibly. Its like rent. If I rent a place for a month, I pay $100 I get a month. If I stay a day over they don't get to say, "ho ho ho, you weren't out the door at 12:01 Am, it is now $600!!11" unilaterally. There are laws in place to prevent such a thing from occurring, OR they have to prove loss in order to recover that obscene amount. Hell even in the cell phone bit they only charge a ridiculous rate for that one KB used, they don't just immediately up-charge you to the next package. AND the penalties are up front, not hidden. Kazak_Hstan posted:Introduce that Alabama 'Gather Your Armies' primary ad from 2010 as evidence, imo: A good opener I think. Then talk about taxation without representation dressed as Thomas Jefferson. Perhaps I can close with the scene the Patriot where Heath Ledger dies, except Heath Ledger is my $15 and Jason Isaacs is the town motor vehicle board.
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