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Been working as an bouncer for half a year and met all kinds of couples, most are ok and some are very nice people but I really don't understand why some women choose to be with "bad guys". Some are wanna-be tough, just assholes who think they are macho and cool, but others are really, really bad people. If you know a dude has been in prison for +10 years and has a violent history and has scars from fights over the years all over his body in midst of the prison tattoos why would you choose to be anywhere near him? What's wrong with these women? A lot of the women who are with convicts I've met aren't even lovely people.
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Apr 18, 2015 12:14
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Hrm it's almost like a patriarchal culture teaches women to be subservient and attach themselves to a male authority
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Apr 18, 2015 12:36
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My aunt started to date a guy like that. A year later they were married. I can tell she's come to her senses, although too late., because she's loving miserable. She won't admit it though because everyone told her not to do it.
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Apr 18, 2015 13:34
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If everyone did what was best for themselves we would all be eating kale and work as computer programmers.
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Apr 18, 2015 14:20
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I personally do not know why we even let convicts out of prison let alone allow people to associate with them.
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Apr 18, 2015 14:38
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A little bit of confidence goes a long way.
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Apr 18, 2015 15:17
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ManOfTheYear posted:Been working as an bouncer for half a year and met all kinds of couples, most are ok and some are very nice people but I really don't understand why some women choose to be with "bad guys". Some are wanna-be tough, just assholes who think they are macho and cool, but others are really, really bad people. If you know a dude has been in prison for +10 years and has a violent history and has scars from fights over the years all over his body in midst of the prison tattoos why would you choose to be anywhere near him? What's her name?
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Apr 18, 2015 15:18
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One or more of these. There's overlap. 1) Excitement 2) She gets attention from her female peers 3) Sees it as a sign of confidence 4) If something goes wrong she and others can blame it on the guy 5) Her father is an rear end in a top hat 6) She's a weak or dependent person
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Apr 18, 2015 17:39
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Because some women might also be bad people themselves.
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Apr 18, 2015 19:03
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icantfindaname posted:Hrm it's almost like a patriarchal culture teaches women to be subservient and attach themselves to a male authority The patriarchy wants your Handel's chocaholic chunk ice cream. That one. The one you're holding in your hand. Two scoops on a waffle cone. What do you do?
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Apr 18, 2015 19:14
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 if you think "the patriarchy" exists outside the minds of braindead internet leftists.
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Apr 18, 2015 19:21
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I assume a sense of security and risk taking. The 'nice guys' (i.e you) don't provide the tingles they want.
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Apr 18, 2015 19:31
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Sometimes they just have tattoos and bad rear end hair and a motorcycle and are actually pretty cool, respectful people But, if you mean like generally lovely dudes, it's generally the idea that this person treats other people like poo poo,. but YOU, you get treated nicely (for a while).
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Apr 18, 2015 19:51
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tsa posted:
Well definitely there is a lot of sexism baked into society and women often get the short end of the stick, but I really love internet social justice advocates' ability to turn any sort of bad judgment or bad personal choice made by a woman into her being forced into that choice by virtue of being a victim of society. It's like their entire ideology is set up so that women can do no wrong. The patriarchy to them, instead of being an obfuscating jargon term which refers to sexism against women built into society, is a bogeyman who is responsible for everything bad that happens to women ever. The fact that the term patriarchy is easy to say and is vague and confusing only encourages its use in that way. silence_kit fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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Apr 18, 2015 20:22
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Women seek out men for reasons other than babies and happily ever after. Bad guys are good for excitement and hot sex.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:05
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Hmmm, lemme guess "bad guys" are "guys who aren't the OP having sex with women".
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Apr 18, 2015 21:42
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Bad guys are not afraid of making bad choices so they're willing to talk to women based upon absolutely nothing. Edit: Maybe it isn't that big of a deal and there are different tastes? Maybe there isn't a significant correlation of bad boys to women and it's just a representative bias. Testikles fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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Apr 18, 2015 22:57
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Bip Roberts posted:Hmmm, lemme guess "bad guys" are "guys who aren't the OP having sex with women". I don't get why THAT BITCH doesn't like a nice guy, like me!! I can't speak for all women, but I'm met some who like the aire of confidence a "bad guy" puts on. Most women are not like this, however. And, for anyone who doesn't think a patriarchal society plays into the whole "I have to go after the loud/alpha male type." you're sorely, sorely mistaken. The Big Whoop fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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Apr 18, 2015 23:18
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Where did we go from someone asking a question to vilifying him and building him up as some women hating incel or some poo poo? As if he can't ask a question from his observations.
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Apr 18, 2015 23:32
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icantfindaname posted:Hrm it's almost like a patriarchal culture teaches women to be subservient and attach themselves to a male authority Yeah basically this. It's really about society's expectations of male and female behavior, not some bullshit  . Also people who tend to be successful in relationships are frequently outgoing and self-confident, which a lot of nerds consider "rear end in a top hat" behavior because they lack those qualities and resent people who have them.
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Apr 18, 2015 23:38
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loving lol. Society dominated by men made me make a bad decision and date guys like War Machine who tried to kill a porn star. I have no personal responsibility to myself and my decision making skills are poor so let me blame society and men. Read his OP. He's not talking about regular people seen as assholes, he's talking about the malcontent like prison inmates and whatnot. This isn't vilify nice halpless guys kind of thing that people on here love to do. Go to EN for that.
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Apr 18, 2015 23:49
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Some people just want to date Ted Bundy. He's got a dignified look and as a bonus he's famous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqmthnrG-2A
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Apr 19, 2015 00:16
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The Big Whoop posted:I don't get why THAT BITCH doesn't like a nice guy, like me!! Post Your Favorite (or Request) › PYF Awkward, Ugly, and Gross: Why didn't this bitch like the picture of my dick
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Apr 19, 2015 01:15
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Gatts posted:loving lol. Society dominated by men made me make a bad decision and date guys like War Machine who tried to kill a porn star. I have no personal responsibility to myself and my decision making skills are poor so let me blame society and men. Did a left-wing activist poo poo in your cereal or something? Maybe you were trying to post on Stormfront ot El Rushbo's website and wound up here by mistake?
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Apr 19, 2015 01:34
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It's almost as if people lack good judgement when choosing long-term mating partners and make spontaneous, ad-hoc decisions based on emotional reasons. We could find a million threads about men falling in love with extremely mentally ill women just because they were hot and/or available at the right time and place.
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Apr 19, 2015 03:39
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Dear E/N, I'm an overweight anti-social computer guy with Aspergers who seems normal if viewed under casual scrutiny and I met this really hot girl on OKCupid who is a beautiful snowflake and I'm going to move 4000 miles away to be with her. We play World of Warcraft together all the time and she thinks she can control the weather with her telepathic powers. Her life plan is to become the queen of an unspecified feudal fiefdom in the Appalachian mountains. I'm super in love with her for reasons completely unrelated to the fact that she is a 5'8", 125 pound hottie with a modeling profile on Facebook. The other day she mentioned something about "schizophrenia" and now she wants to join the Army. I'm really worried because I have already purchased a pair of horses for us. Sincerely, A Goon
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Apr 19, 2015 03:54
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I had a boss years ago who's theory was that some women date jerks because somewhere in the back of their heads, they know they'll never have to commit. It seemed oddly specific and made me wonder if she'd had some personal experience with that situation, but  Doesn't seem too outlandish but I'm sure there's a whole host of other reasons why someone might date a person who isn't particularly nice. Comedy option 
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Apr 19, 2015 05:18
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Never have to commit, and possibly end up in the trunk of a car? It's irresistible!
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Apr 19, 2015 06:25
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They want to screw a guy and have nothing else to do with him so they pick a guy whose only utility is dong. Once in a while they become emotionally attached because of reasons. It's the same reason guys sometimes end up marrying some oval office they met when she was wearing six inch heels and cheating on her long term boyfriend in a bar.
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Apr 19, 2015 10:17
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I'm a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad man! I'm so bad sometimes I scare myself! Sometimes I look in the mirror and want to kiss myself, I'm so pretty! Now WHO AM I? (The Man!) Now WHO AM I? (The Man!) WHO? (The Man!) That's right, and don't y'all forget it! OP, as the authority on the singular woman-consciousness which is out there, I can tell you it's specifically because they want to baffle you, and because you have bad breath. Also, your snap judgments of other peoples' worth is entirely accurate, and there are never many contributing factor's to a person's personality. Plus all women are angels and could never be "bad people" themselves in some way you can't tell after the intimacy involved in your bouncer-clientele relationship. E: Also, everybody who has been to prison is pure evil. surc fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Apr 19, 2015 13:58
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I am mostly attracted to bad guys because of their especially curly moustaches. Mario is fine and all, but there's something about Wario that takes me breath away.
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Apr 19, 2015 16:08
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icantfindaname posted:Did a left-wing activist poo poo in your cereal or something? Maybe you were trying to post on Stormfront ot El Rushbo's website and wound up here by mistake? Funny note, for some reason I can only take cereal with hot chocolate for milk. People suggested like almond milk to try but I dunno.
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Apr 19, 2015 16:09
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Woolie Wool posted:Yeah basically this. It's really about society's expectations of male and female behavior, not some bullshit Lol, women don't make bad decisions regarding partners, actually that's what's forced on them by society. Also, no woman ever has ever been with an abusive guy, that's a fiction invented by jealous nerds who aren't getting any. I'm surprised that more women don't find this worldview patronizing and insulting. Basically it implies that women have no agency, and therefore, like children, shouldn't be held responsible for what they do. silence_kit fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Apr 19, 2015 17:32
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silence_kit posted:Lol, women don't make bad decisions regarding partners, actually that's what's forced on them by society. Also, no woman ever has ever been with an abusive guy, that's a fiction invented by jealous nerds who aren't getting any.  Are you saying that the idea of "society conditioning people to act in certain ways" is specifically demeaning to women? Because society definitely does that, that's like 80% of the point of society even existing in the first place. I don't think that poster was suggesting that all women will always do a thing or anything, unless I'm missing a post he's responding to.
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Apr 19, 2015 18:13
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Because, gently caress You Mom and Dad! Also, they've got the drugs on Friday and Saturday night. It's really not that complicated.
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Apr 19, 2015 19:11
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surc posted:
I'm saying that the internet ideology where women are incapable of doing wrong and everything bad that happens to them is a consequence of them being victims of society can be viewed as being patronizing. Obviously, society influences behavior, but on this board there are a ton of posters who bend over backwards, often blaming external influences, to avoid ever saying anything bad about any woman. We have multiple posts in this thread where people are accusing the OP, a bar bouncer, who probably has some experience dealing with violent guys, of being a jealous virginal nerd who labels any confident guy that he sees a woman with as being an ex-con. When he asks about women's psychology and what some women see in those guys, he gets a couple of responses from posters who fall all over themselves to explain that women are just being pressured by society to date violent men. It's totally out of place.
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silence_kit posted:I'm saying that the internet ideology where women are incapable of doing wrong and everything bad that happens to them is a consequence of them being victims of society can be viewed as being patronizing. Obviously, society influences behavior, but on this board there are a ton of posters who bend over backwards, often blaming external influences, to avoid ever saying anything bad about any woman. btw here is the rest of my post, where I imply that you are arguing against a point not being made so that you can talk about how women should be offended by people recognizing gender roles in our society: surc posted:I don't think that poster was suggesting that all women will always do a thing or anything, unless I'm missing a post he's responding to. The poster I quoted was literally saying "Societal pressure, as opposed to some innate part of being a woman that makes you fall for bad guys". I don't know why you need to prove that women are fallible so badly, but nobody's actually said they're infallible in this thread. You may want to reflect on why you're so vehement about this. The reason this dude is getting so much poo poo regardless of the intent behind his question is that his question is like asking "why do men like the color blue" and expecting there to be one answer. I mean, you could give a blanket answer to the post like "because bad guys are super hot", but you can't actually answer the question meaningfully because women are all individual people who have their own combination of things going on in their lives that lead them to have the opinions and views on the world. The question also implies that there could be a singular answer, which is demeaning to women because that assumes that they would all react a certain way instead of as individuals. In case you are actually unaware of it, his thread title is also pretty much the rallying call of the "wronged nice guy" the internet over, which usually means that they are a self-centered dude with obvious flaws they're oblivious to, who have an idealized fantasy of how a woman should be and what they should want (the nice guy himself usually), and when they fail to live up to that and are instead an individual living their own life totally fine, and go out with somebody they want to instead of the nice guy, the dudes get all butthurt and ask petulant questions like "why do they always go with the JERKS?" This dude doesn't seem like he meant it to be demeaning, or like he's being petulant, but it's still a silly question. Hopefully the snarky answers he's received have resulted in him realizing that and either shifting mental gears immediately and laughing along at the silliness of it all, or being embarrassed which may lead to annoyance at the people making the posts, but hopefully also to thinking about the situation differently afterwards, which might enable him to answer his own question and probably help out with other questions to try and understand why people act the way they act. Thread success!
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Apr 19, 2015 22:25
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surc posted:you are arguing against a point not being made 
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surc posted:I 100% think that women are capable of doing wrong. Literally the first post in this poo poo thread is somebody saying women don't choose to be with "bad guys", but rather they sleepwalk into making that decision because of ~nebulous patriarchy~ D&D posters are so loving terrible that they should get probated from threadshitting every time they post not in D&D.
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Honestly I've been kind of wondering the same thing, or at least wondering it for a specific person. My fiancee spent the better part of today and yesterday helping her best friend recover from her boyfriend (with whom she lived) knocking up his ex recently. Another guy that said friend dated in college several years used her ID card to break into a dorm to steal some laptops, he landed in jail and she got expelled. The guys in between those two were better, but not by much. Some people just can't be helped
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