ISIS are bad guys

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quakster: Jul 21, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

whic is worse, is is or gamregate ? only time will tell

# ? Apr 20, 2015 09:23

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 01:14

DeepQantas: Jan 13, 2008; Ah, to be a Hero... Keeping such company...

You misspelled Imerica :smug:

# ? Apr 20, 2015 09:32

Mr. Pumroy: May 20, 2001

daesh

# ? Apr 20, 2015 10:43

I'm Crap: Aug 15, 2001

Gazpacho posted:

After the initial airstrikes by the U.S. in northern Iraq, we declared: �Any force, however unsavory, that attacks, repels or otherwise impedes U.S. forces strikes a blow in the interests of the exploited and the oppressed.� However, in the reactionary, mainly Sunni-Shi�ite communal conflicts in Iraq and Syria, the world�s toilers had no side.

Since then, Iraqi government forces and Kurdish pesh merga in Iraq are again conducting joint military operations with the U.S., as they did for years under the occupation. More recently, Syrian Kurdish nationalists have also sealed a treacherous alliance with the U.S. in the battle over Kobani in northern Syria, acting as the imperialists� bomb spotters and otherwise coordinating military movements. The fact that all these forces are �boots on the ground� for imperialist intervention means that revolutionary Marxists have a military side with ISIS when it targets the imperialists and their proxies, including the Syrian Kurdish nationalists, the pesh merga, the Baghdad government and its Shi�ite militias.

It goes without saying that we internationalist communists are die-hard enemies of the ultra-reactionary social and political program of ISIS, whose methods of rooting out �apostates� amount to mass slaughter. We condemn communal atrocities on all sides. ISIS is itself the imperialists� creation, having emerged out of the intercommunal slaughter triggered by the U.S. occupation. It counts as precursors those who cut their teeth as jihadis in the CIA-backed war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Washington could very well switch to supporting ISIS under certain conditions�for example, against the Assad regime in Syria, which is decidedly not a part of the U.S. military alliance despite its best efforts.

But ISIS today is in battle against the local tools of U.S. imperialism, the main enemy of the world�s working people. A setback for the U.S. in Syria might give pause to Washington in its military adventures, including by encouraging opposition at home. Such opposition adds to the tinder that must be ignited in class struggle against the capitalist rulers who, in their quest for ever greater profits, beat down the workers, black people and immigrants.

lol at these buttclown "marxists" not getting behind their brothers and sisters in the kurdistan workers party smdh

# ? Apr 20, 2015 11:14

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

Did you guys win Iraq yet

Is that poo poo still going on lol

# ? Apr 20, 2015 11:38

dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

Pretty sure ISIS are actually Glad pies, and OP just misheard.

CNN have been saying they're all Glad pies for weeks, and I dunno OP you just don't seem as informed as CNN.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:11

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

lmao you havent won Iraq yet lol, what the gently caress is the point of all your trillions of dollars worth of warmachinery if you can't even beat up a bunch of idiot desert rednecks properly

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:28

FedEx Mercury: Jan 7, 2004; Me bad posting? That's unpossible!; Lipstick Apathy

It's a shame about Iraq. I guess you really can't teach an old dog new tricks. Except it worked in Japan so I don't know actually. Maybe nukes really are the answer.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:33

Fidel Cuckstro: Jul 2, 2007

Zzulu posted:

lmao you havent won Iraq yet lol, what the gently caress is the point of all your trillions of dollars worth of warmachinery if you can't even beat up a bunch of idiot desert rednecks properly

You had to avoid caps and punctuation to make sure your irony got across. That's cool.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:33

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

The Japanese are submissive by nature and gladly bowed to the rugged handsome white man

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:34

Zzulu: May 15, 2009; (â°ËvËâ°)

Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

You had to avoid caps and punctuation to make sure your irony got across. That's cool.

i wish, that's just how i post; terribly

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:36

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

I'm Crap posted:

lol at these buttclown "marxists" not getting behind their brothers and sisters in the kurdistan workers party smdh

they don't count since they actually have had the chance to rule

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:39

FedEx Mercury: Jan 7, 2004; Me bad posting? That's unpossible!; Lipstick Apathy

Zzulu posted:

The Japanese are submissive by nature and gladly bowed to the rugged handsome white man

I don't really agree with this.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:57

Morkies: Apr 19, 2015; by zen death robot

notZaar posted:

I don't really agree with this.

Yeah same, those white men were American not ruggedly handsome

# ? Apr 20, 2015 13:59

Flavor Truck: Nov 5, 2007; My Love for You is like a Truck

brb thwarting plots

# ? Apr 20, 2015 14:01

Mr. Pumroy: May 20, 2001

daeshing thru the snow, on a blown up technical

# ? Apr 20, 2015 14:51

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Zzulu posted:

lmao you havent won Iraq yet lol, what the gently caress is the point of all your trillions of dollars worth of warmachinery if you can't even beat up a bunch of idiot desert rednecks properly

It's because they were only allowed to kill the people who were pointing guns at US Soldiers right at that moment. If they'd been able to level cities like back in the old days, the war would've been over in a long weekend.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 15:21

Kyrie eleison: Jan 26, 2013; by Ralp

Let's kill all of them.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 15:25

Jerry Mumphrey: Mar 11, 2004; by zen death robot
(and can't post for 4 years!)

I'm not the most politcal guy, but am I correct in assuming:

usa = SHINRA

ISIS = A.V.A.L.A.N.C.H.E.

???

# ? Apr 20, 2015 15:33

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Jerry Mumphrey posted:

I'm not the most politcal guy, but am I correct in assuming:

usa = SHINRA

ISIS = A.V.A.L.A.N.C.H.E.

???

I don't know what that means.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 15:39

Jerry Mumphrey: Mar 11, 2004; by zen death robot
(and can't post for 4 years!)

boom boom boom posted:

I don't know what that means.

it means the planet's fuckin dyin and I need to know which side i'm on

# ? Apr 20, 2015 15:41

boom boom boom: Jun 28, 2012; by Shine

Jerry Mumphrey posted:

it means the planet's fuckin dyin and I need to know which side i'm on

Is it from an anime?

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:03

Fidel Cuckstro: Jul 2, 2007

Jerry Mumphrey posted:

I'm not the most politcal guy, but am I correct in assuming:

usa = SHINRA

ISIS = A.V.A.L.A.N.C.H.E.

???

I guess the irony here is that it'd be really messed up to make video game jokes standing over the raped and burned body of a victim of ISIS's brutality.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:06

Hot Dog Day #82: Jul 5, 2003; Soiled Meat

Op you gotta stay suuuuuper open minded about Isis, it is all just a matter of perspective. If we were posting five hundred years ago this thread would be called "Lutherans are bad guys"!

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:08

Mr. Pumroy: May 20, 2001

when you say badguys do you mean like the joker? that's hosed up!

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:09

satanic splash-back: Jan 28, 2009

Jerry Mumphrey posted:

I'm not the most politcal guy, but am I correct in assuming:

usa = SHINRA

ISIS = A.V.A.L.A.N.C.H.E.

???

oh my god the lifestream

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:49

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

I'm Crap posted:

lol at these buttclown "marxists" not getting behind their brothers and sisters in the kurdistan workers party smdh

its from the spartacists who are the trots' trots and the circus clowns of marxism

(the position of "respectable" trots is pretty much the same tho)

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:53

Nelson Mandingo: Mar 27, 2005

Jerry Mumphrey posted:

I'm not the most politcal guy, but am I correct in assuming:

usa = SHINRA

ISIS = A.V.A.L.A.N.C.H.E.

???

The planet's dyin' Muhammad.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:55

misdirectomy: Feb 19, 2008

*pulls up wikihow.com/how-to-post-like-a-goon*

Uh, actually ISIS is cool, and good.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:56

Fidel Cuckstro: Jul 2, 2007

There are goons on this site who like and support ISIS, but are afraid to admit so without a thin veil of irony for protection.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 16:59

Tony Homo: Oct 30, 2014; by zen death robot

OP let me fix the title for you. MUSLIMS are bad guys.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 17:47

Jerry Mumphrey: Mar 11, 2004; by zen death robot
(and can't post for 4 years!)

I cis, you cis, we're all cis for ISIS

# ? Apr 20, 2015 17:49

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3: Nov 15, 2003

there is so much cool stuff to dig up in iraq and white people havent been able to do it for a hundred years

let us at your ancient biblical cities, assholes

# ? Apr 20, 2015 17:55

dr_rat: Jun 4, 2001

LegoPirateNinja posted:

there is so much cool stuff to dig up in iraq and white people havent been able to do it for a hundred years

let us at your ancient biblical cities, assholes

Not I'm sure how much you know about history, but yeah man, all that stuff cursed. You start digging that up and suddenly we'll have mummies, jinn, and were-heyna all over the joint.

Just let poo poo be dude, just let poo poo be.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 18:04

VideoGames: Aug 18, 2003

*tips fedora* Mu'slim!

# ? Apr 20, 2015 18:08

Top City Homo: Oct 15, 2014; Ramrod XTreme

I am a sUpporter of the Brotherhood of Nod

# ? Apr 20, 2015 18:33

Top City Homo: Oct 15, 2014; Ramrod XTreme

*nods respectfully towards this thread*

# ? Apr 20, 2015 18:33

hohhat: Sep 25, 2014

Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

I care about human life, which is why I started this thread.

edit- Agag, can you clarify your feelings regarding ISIS, and if they're bad?

ISIS are bad. If they weren't so bad I'd root for them against Western armies just as a spoiler, but they are way too gross and awful.

As a rule I side with the home team (e.g "I am a Boxer"). If you're in your own country fighting people from outside I will root for you. But ISIS... no.

Kyrie eleison posted:

Let's kill all of them.

I changed my mind. I want ISIS to win now.

# ? Apr 20, 2015 23:55

RaceBannon: Apr 3, 2010