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theshim: May 1, 2012; You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

Hey guys. Raised Orthodox, currently still nominally Orthodox in practice but very distant personally. I'd like to toss my hat in on a few things.

Obdicut posted:

You've really got to clarify what form of "Jew" you're talking about. OP is Reform. Reform Judaism has actively campaigned for gay rights, mostly. Orthodox are just flat against it. Conservatives are divided. For atheism, it's much the same. Orthodox are also not tolerant of homosexuality in 'others', either, really. I think what you might be getting at is that even among orthodox Jews, there's a pretty strong level of support for separation of church and state, but that's pragmatic--that Orthodox Jews are not, nor will be, in the majority in the US.

Basically, all questions like this have the same answer: There are more and less liberal forms of Judaism.

Even among supposedly monolithic sects like Orthodoxy there's a great deal of variance. I actually am friends with a number of Orthodox gay Jews, and it's a struggle for them, but the overwhelming majority of my Orthodox friends support gay rights and equality. My group is fairly liberal, I guess, and there absolutely are more hardline factions that decry it, but there's a whole ton of different people out there.

Enophos posted:

Stoning faded out over time after the destruction of Judea. Jews have traditionally lived according to the laws of the nations they reside in and this punishment has disappeared in most of the world. I am not aware of any modern cases, but Jews who live in countries that still allow stoning might in theory still practice it.

Jewish formal courts that could actually decide on capital matters were abolished after the Second Temple. While there are some smaller ones that can rule on smaller issues, and those operate generally as binding arbitration agreements in a secular legal sense, higher courts are no longer used and even in a country that had it in their laws Judaism would not apply it by itself.

(There's also a discussion in the Talmud where several opinions are put forth on how often a court should kill people - one says that one capital punishment over seventy years is considered unacceptably "destructive".)

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