Free Will does not exist

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redshirt: Aug 11, 2007; Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

Sorry for the harsh truths goons but there is no past, present, or future. There is simply SPACETIME and all events occur simultaneously within its 4 dimensions.

But, as we are simple creatures, we can only perceive 3D, and thus life is an unfolding series of trials and tribulations, ending, always, in death.

The choices you are making are already made. The end you deserve has been here the whole time. There is no redemption.

Enjoy!

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:11

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 09:16

Inevitable: Jul 27, 2007; by Ralp

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:15

Inevitable: Jul 27, 2007; by Ralp

I couldn't not post that

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:15

quakster: Jul 21, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

which came before, thread or egg

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:16

Fergus Mac Roich: Nov 5, 2008; Soiled Meat

will is free for any reasonable definition of will

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:17

Samuel L. ACKSYN: Feb 29, 2008

but free willy does, rent it today at your local video store

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:18

butt implants: Oct 16, 2004; i'm gay

i guess i'm just deterministically going to tell you to go gently caress yourself and die, redshirt

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:18

wane tendo: Mar 19, 2005; Buglord

Inevitable posted:

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:18

Darf: Jun 6, 2011; You have quite a treasure there...

FREE TAIWAN

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:18

gary oldmans diary: Sep 26, 2005

cool thing is even if things are predetermined it still doesnt affect things because we cant tell the difference anyway

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:20

ROFLburger: Jan 12, 2006

redshirt posted:

Sorry for the harsh truths goons but there is no past, present, or future. There is simply SPACETIME and all events occur simultaneously within its 4 dimensions.

But, as we are simple creatures, we can only perceive 3D, and thus life is an unfolding series of trials and tribulations, ending, always, in death.

The choices you are making are already made. The end you deserve has been here the whole time. There is no redemption.

Enjoy!

then why can we only observe the time in one direction idiot? why are we going forwards and not backwards for example

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:20

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007; Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

gary oldmans diary posted:

cool thing is even if things are predetermined it still doesnt affect things because we cant tell the difference anyway

This is the real point and it's basic and easily true, yet still hard for many to accept.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:21

wane tendo: Mar 19, 2005; Buglord

Darf posted:

UNBAN KEEP IT REAL

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:22

Orkin Mang: Nov 1, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

um, yeah, it is

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:22

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007; Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

ROFLburger posted:

then why can we only observe the time in one direction idiot? why are we going forwards and not backwards for example

Because we are small.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:22

glowstick party tonight: Oct 4, 2003; by zen death robot

Agreed OP predestination is the protestant truth and the way of the light

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:29

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007; Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

mdm posted:

Agreed OP predestination is the protestant truth and the way of the light

Cotton Mather was right.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:29

VendaGoat: Nov 1, 2005

Pretty sure the OP has already hosed himself, but still, hey OP, Go gently caress yourself!

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:29

Bro Dad: Mar 26, 2010

Inevitable posted:

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:31

naem: May 29, 2011

redshirt posted:

Sorry for the harsh truths goons but there is no past, present, or future. There is simply SPACETIME and all events occur simultaneously within its 4 dimensions.

But, as we are simple creatures, we can only perceive 3D, and thus life is an unfolding series of trials and tribulations, ending, always, in death.

The choices you are making are already made. The end you deserve has been here the whole time. There is no redemption.

Enjoy!

The movie INTARSTELLAR youth me that the fifth dimension is love and also that movie taught me that MURPH!!

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:35

Motto: Aug 3, 2013

it was determined by the will of the universe that i would shitpost in a gay rear end thread

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:37

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007; Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

VendaGoat posted:

Pretty sure the OP has already hosed himself, but still, hey OP, Go gently caress yourself!

Thanks friend! I hope you go gently caress yourself as well!

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:38

VendaGoat: Nov 1, 2005

redshirt posted:

Thanks friend! I hope you go gently caress yourself as well!

Way ahead of yah! :dong:

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:39

redshirt: Aug 11, 2007; Reporting for shovel mission Sir.

VendaGoat posted:

Way ahead of yah!

We're all loving each other if my reading of SPACETIME is correct.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 07:25

Stranger Danger Ranger: Jul 21, 2007; There are lizards coming out of my tv.

ROFLburger posted:

then why can we only observe the time in one direction idiot? why are we going forwards and not backwards for example

what is this is backwards and we only perceive it as forwards by quirk of evolution

# ? Apr 26, 2015 08:21

flerp: Feb 25, 2014

Inevitable posted:

# ? Apr 26, 2015 09:22

Sinjang: May 29, 2013

redshirt posted:

Sorry for the harsh truths goons but there is no past, present, or future. There is simply SPACETIME and all events occur simultaneously within its 4 dimensions.

But, as we are simple creatures, we can only perceive 3D, and thus life is an unfolding series of trials and tribulations, ending, always, in death.

The choices you are making are already made. The end you deserve has been here the whole time. There is no redemption.

Enjoy!

L-Smo disagrees

http://www.amazon.com/The-Singular-Universe-Reality-Time/dp/1107074061#productDescription_secondary_view_pageState_1430036775897

quote:

The revolution that Roberto Mangabeira Unger and Lee Smolin propose relies on three central ideas. There is only one universe at a time. Time is real: everything in the structure and regularities of nature changes sooner or later. Mathematics, which has trouble with time, is not the oracle of nature and the prophet of science; it is simply a tool with great power and immense limitations.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 09:32

monkey: Jan 20, 2004; by zen death robot; Yams Fan

You guys have got the whole time thing backwards. Time does not exist. Existence times.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 10:29

Sombrerotron: Aug 1, 2004; Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

I am glad that I have no free will because it absolves me of every abject failure and embarrassment I have suffered and will yet suffer throughout this absurd fleshy life of mine.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 10:31

Lil Swamp Booger Baby: Aug 1, 1981

OP it is essential that you poop your pants.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 10:33

The Dennis System: Aug 4, 2014; Nothing in Jurassic World is natural, we have always filled gaps in the genome with the DNA of other animals. And if the genetic code was pure, many of them would look quite different. But you didn't ask for reality, you asked for more teeth.

The Singular Universe and the Reality of Time.

http://www.amazon.com/Singular-Univ...ngluar+universe

# ? Apr 26, 2015 10:34

krampster2: Jun 26, 2014

thought title said "will ferrell does not exist"

# ? Apr 26, 2015 10:35

Scrotum Modem: Sep 12, 2014

HAVNET U SEEN THE EYEOEPNING DOCUMENTERY "WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW" IT TALKS ABOUT HOW U ACTULLY HAVE CONTROL OVER EVRYTHING AT A QUANTUM LEVEL AND U ACTUALLY CAN CONTRAIL EVRYTHING IN THE MATERIAL WORLD

OPEN UR EYES SHEEPLE

# ? Apr 26, 2015 13:51

AdvancesMONKEY: Mar 30, 2010; by Lowtax

it almost certainly dont. your still a crappy fellow.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 13:53

IzzyFnStradlin: Jun 19, 2004

if you think you have free will, i suggest you watch a little film called "the butterfly effect"

# ? Apr 26, 2015 13:54

les fleurs du mall: Jun 30, 2014; by LadyAmbien

what if the will transcends the linear passage of time and we r each just scriptwriters for our own adventures beyond the cylce of birth and death

http://www.racismreview.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Black-Jesus.jpg

# ? Apr 26, 2015 14:45

tvayisnihyaami: Dec 23, 2012; by Lowtax

redshirt posted:

Sorry for the harsh truths goons but there is no past, present, or future. There is simply SPACETIME and all events occur simultaneously within its 4 dimensions.

But, as we are simple creatures, we can only perceive 3D, and thus life is an unfolding series of trials and tribulations, ending, always, in death.

The choices you are making are already made. The end you deserve has been here the whole time. There is no redemption.

Enjoy!

i actually realized this while trippin hard on acid and meditating

# ? Apr 26, 2015 14:59