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Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006

Applewhite posted:

Ugh, the US government is so oppressive! When will the sheeple wake up and realize we live in a fascist police state?

*is not arrested and faces no consequences whatsoever for expressing these sentiments publicly using real name*

i thought ppl actually have been arrested for saying such sentiments in public there?

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Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Dyna Soar posted:

i thought ppl actually have been arrested for saying such sentiments in public there?

at certain times in our history, anti-American sentiments have been suppressed harder than others, but even at their worst they have never been as bad as conditions in actual fascist/communist societies.

E: afaik no one has been arrested for "un American" statements within my lifetime but will defer to cited sources.

Applewhite fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Apr 27, 2015

porkchop_express
May 27, 2004

Dyna Soar posted:

i want to mow a lawn

i want to mow a lawn so bad

please let me mow your lawn sir

no but you can trim my bush

high and tight

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



america sucks op, go to norway or germany or canada, all cool places for cool people

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



* moves to america, dies due to dehydration from not being able to afford the $20.00/gallon water from drought in 3 months*

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
i dont wanna go to norway because i basically live as close to norway you can without actually living in norway.

germany can be cool but their music sucks and they dub all tv and movies in their ugly rear end language so gently caress them

canada is cool i guess i could settle for canada but as far as i know people aren't really free in canada

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Dyna Soar posted:

i dont wanna go to norway because i basically live as close to norway you can without actually living in norway.

germany can be cool but their music sucks and they dub all tv and movies in their ugly rear end language so gently caress them

canada is cool i guess i could settle for canada but as far as i know people aren't really free in canada

Actually German is a beautiful language and kickin' rad. Beats the poo poo out of the so-called "romance" languages which are each worse than the other.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
nah i've studied it for uhh, 6 years in school and actually dated a girl who's dad is german and who spoke it fluently and lemme tell you, it's impossible to sound sexy in german. i made her try, goddamn i made her try.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Dyna Soar posted:

nah i've studied it for uhh, 6 years in school and actually dated a girl who's dad is german and who spoke it fluently and lemme tell you, it's impossible to sound sexy in german. i made her try, goddamn i made her try.

When talking sexy, switch to English. Speaking German accented English is sexy.

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



accent X + language X = not sexy
accent X + language Y = sexy

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Applewhite posted:

at certain times in our history, anti-American sentiments have been suppressed harder than others, but even at their worst they have never been as bad as conditions in actual fascist/communist societies.

E: afaik no one has been arrested for "un American" statements within my lifetime but will defer to cited sources.

Sedition Act of 1918 was responsible for several people being arrested for disloyal speech or anything that the US government didn't like basically (bunch of socialists mostly).

In 1940 a peacetime version of the Sedition Act called the Alien Registration Act of 1940 (Smith Act) allowed the US government to again arrest a bunch of socialists that were talking poo poo (also some nazi sympathizers and racists though). It got mostly overturned in 1957 by the Supreme Court.

Also way back when John Adams was president the Alien and Sedition Acts were passed which basically let the Federalists (political party in power at the time) arrest anyone that was talking poo poo about them. One writer got fined $200 and sentenced to 9 months in jail for calling the president a "repulsive pedant, a gross hypocrite and an unprincipled oppressor." The Federalists got panned pretty heavily for this though and they ended up losing in the next election.

Still not as bad as an actual fascist country but certainly people have been arrested for un-American sentiment or 'disloyalty.' There's definitely precedent for your rights disappearing right when you need them the most.


Anyway OP idk if you're serious or not but being poor in America is really lovely. You might want to think pretty hard before attempting to living here illegally.

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Apr 27, 2015

Drunk Nerds
Jan 25, 2011

Just close your eyes
Fun Shoe

Dyna Soar posted:

what do they do for a living

Construction. Lot of Irish illegals in construction

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Moridin920 posted:



Still not as bad as an actual fascist country but certainly people have been arrested for un-American sentiment or 'disloyalty.'


And I fully acknowledge that, but I think that the past 30-40 years we've done an excellent job distancing ourselves from those missteps.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Applewhite posted:

And I fully acknowledge that, but I think that the past 30-40 years we've done an excellent job distancing ourselves from those missteps.

I agree, I just think it's important to be aware of history and to be aware of what is currently happening because it's actually fairly easy for our rights to get trampled on if we're not careful.

I think one of the reasons we're better than Europe is our rights but every day we move closer to more tightly controlled speech, greater police authority, etc. When I was in Germany it was chill for cops to search anyone they liked for no reason and pull people over for no reason just to check on them and I thought it was super weird.

Budget Dracula
Jun 6, 2007

Dyna Soar posted:

could i realistically live as an illegal immigrant without having to like, dig trenches or poo poo for the rest of my life

I remember Jurgis Rudkus having a pretty good time as a bum and a con-man after his family died.

I.C.
Jun 10, 2008

Are we married yet? Listen, all I really want to do is change my last name and it's somehow easier to do when you get married or maybe I just think that.
Anyway, I've done it before, but want to lose the one I have now. This is win-win.

Dyna Soar
Nov 30, 2006
no one will be abled to pronounce your new one and it has umlauts in it.

congratulations

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





don't

I.C.
Jun 10, 2008

Dyna Soar posted:

no one will be abled to pronounce your new one and it has umlauts in it.

congratulations

In my culture we say Mazel Tov!
And now this is your culture! I guess, but really Naaah. All I'd like from you is your last name for a little bit, like however long it takes to be considered married by whoever is checking, and then once that time has passed, I'll change it again during the divorce. Again, easy-peasy that part. No-contest divorces in my state are pretty cheap. We won't have any community assets or drama or anything so seriously --simple. Okay?

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Monday_
Feb 18, 2006

Worked-up silent dork without sex ability seeks oblivion and demise.
The Great Twist
Can you ride a bike? Move to NYC and become a messenger. Most bike messengers are illegal immigrants.

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