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KeiraWalker
Sep 5, 2011

Me? Don't worry about me...
Grimey Drawer
As for soothing vs. boring, I found it soothing--but then, I find watching any LP to be oddly soothing for some reason.

You know, I actually have the original PSone version of Blood Omen, but I haven't ever got more than half an hour into it. I should remedy that one of these days.

(Hell, thinking about it, I own every LoK game. PC versions of BO2-Defiance, plus PSone BO and PS2 Defiance, and I think the latter is the only one I've ever actually finished.)

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RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010

KieranWalker posted:

As for soothing vs. boring, I found it soothing--but then, I find watching any LP to be oddly soothing for some reason.

You know, I actually have the original PSone version of Blood Omen, but I haven't ever got more than half an hour into it. I should remedy that one of these days.

(Hell, thinking about it, I own every LoK game. PC versions of BO2-Defiance, plus PSone BO and PS2 Defiance, and I think the latter is the only one I've ever actually finished.)

I have all of them. Beat Blood Omen, got half-way through Soul Reaver 1 (it's the Morrowind of the series, honestly, in terms of "this is awesome, but where the gently caress do I go now?", beat Soul Reaver 2, got to a certain point in Blood Omen 2 where I just said "gently caress this game forever", and beat Defiance. BO1 will forever be my favorite because, as great as some of his lines in later games are (the edge of the coin conversation, oh my god) Simon Templeman's delivery in this game is so incredibly over the top that I have to smile everytime he says something.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
Speaking of over the top dialogue, there's a lot in this one

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all
I know I don't say much in the thread, but I do love this LP and this game so much.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

Zain posted:

I know I don't say much in the thread, but I do love this LP and this game so much.

Episode 19 was indeed very soothing. I didn't realize just how much of an effect the background music had until I watched episode 20. Despite the dungeons for both being pretty uninteresting, 19 was way more enjoyable, as the music made it relaxing to watch instead of being kind of tedious.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

I dont know posted:

Episode 19 was indeed very soothing. I didn't realize just how much of an effect the background music had until I watched episode 20. Despite the dungeons for both being pretty uninteresting, 19 was way more enjoyable, as the music made it relaxing to watch instead of being kind of tedious.

I just checked and the Oracle's cave has no background music at all (also, holy crap, my commentary there is almost like a lecture in that I'm much further away from the microphone than now and I'm borderline screaming as a result)
Maybe that's why it's so insanely boring and tedious

Vicissitude
Jan 26, 2004

You ever do the chicken dance at a wake? That really bothers people.
No, you didn't have to do that at all. Especially since that family had a perfectly full barrel of... blood...

Maybe you did the right thing.

Zushio
May 8, 2008
I feel like we've seen The Dollmaker before that flashback/senior moment the king had.

The videos were definitely relaxing to me as well. Possibly the music, possibly the screams, possibly the improved gameplay. Also, I really miss Tony Jay now. :(

Zushio fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Oct 29, 2015

Iretep
Nov 10, 2009
I was afraid the entire village in episode 19 was going to be voice acted by Tony Jay.

Ironslave
Aug 8, 2006

Corpse runner

Iretep posted:

I was afraid hoping the entire village in episode 19 was going to be voice acted by Tony Jay.

Fixed it for you.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
On an unrelated note, I have two more updates cooked, and then I'll be through all of the footage that I had prerecorded in August before moving.
Now I am experiencing techincal issues due to using a laptop with an rear end aspect ratio which screws with the game's resolution and makes the game only play with screen resolution much lower than before (attempts to change it back to 640x480 result in the game crashing, even when I reinstall everything). So if the game begins to look like rear end beginning with 23, then it means that I have failed to fix the problem

EDIT: took me an hour and a half that I wanted to spend doing the recording, but I fixed it.

More EDIT: we all miss Tony Jay ._. The feels will hit in every LoK

nutri_void fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 29, 2015

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
The update is here. Also, how long are the last couple of videos? Youtube seems to do something weird with the length, this part rendered as a 16:35 video, but in Youtube it's 15:35 (at least in the annotations manager)

Wa11y
Jul 23, 2002

Did I say "cookies?" I meant, "Fire in your face!"
It's been a long while since I played, but with all the gore the Soul Reaver is spraying every time you kill something, could you equip the Flesh Armor, and it will absorb all that blood automatically, keeping your health topped up? Not a good idea when there are green-blooded monsters around, but in Stahlberg, it should have been just fine.

Also, this was around the time when I started losing track of who's who and what's what, so I'm hoping watching your play through will help me understand what's all going on. I just remember being confused a lot in the end game.

Edit: VV Well, that's unfortunate. It's like they were trying not to make the Soul Reaver too powerful, and instead made it largely useless. Can't cast spells while holding it, it uses up your magic to kill with it, and does poo poo damage if you don't have magic, and the Flesh Armor can't absorb the blood it's filling the air with. I think I hardly used it back when I played, just because it seemed to be more of a liability than an asset.

Wa11y fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 29, 2015

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

Wa11y posted:

It's been a long while since I played, but with all the gore the Soul Reaver is spraying every time you kill something, could you equip the Flesh Armor, and it will absorb all that blood automatically, keeping your health topped up? Not a good idea when there are green-blooded monsters around, but in Stahlberg, it should have been just fine.

Also, this was around the time when I started losing track of who's who and what's what, so I'm hoping watching your play through will help me understand what's all going on. I just remember being confused a lot in the end game.

Just launched the game to try that, and it doesn't work, unfortunately: everything just dies without supplying Kain with blood

Yes, the lategame is confusing, that's due to the weird configuration of cutscenes and the story itself becoming convoluted

KeiraWalker
Sep 5, 2011

Me? Don't worry about me...
Grimey Drawer

Alexeythegreat posted:

The update is here. Also, how long are the last couple of videos? Youtube seems to do something weird with the length, this part rendered as a 16:35 video, but in Youtube it's 15:35 (at least in the annotations manager)

I'm not sure what's going on exactly, but the videos seem to be the right length--however, the timestamps for the annotations are off. The links for the previous/next videos are popping up long before the actual graphics for them show up.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
I see. Hopefully, it's fixed now

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
I'd forgotten about Tony Jay trying to do slightly different voices for the villagers. Holy poo poo that was funny as hell. :unsmith:

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
Well, update time. I REALLY like the Dollmaker's house. And the music. And it's probably a good thing that the Dollmaker's house is very short and that its soundtrack is not reused anywhere else in the game, which is what differentiates it from another great place, Nupraptor's retreat


Also, Lpix refuses to recognize my password ._.

nutri_void fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Oct 31, 2015

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Just a few seconds in I knew exactly what you meant regarding the soundtrack.

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

Alexeythegreat posted:

Well, update time. I REALLY like the Dollmaker's house. And the music. And it's probably a good thing that the Dollmaker's house is very short and that its soundtrack is not reused anywhere else in the game, which is what differentiates it from another great place, Nupraptor's retreat


Also, Lpix refuses to recognize my password ._.

This segment is FAR creepier knowing that one of the game's designers was involved with child abuse.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

I dont know posted:

This segment is FAR creepier knowing that one of the game's designers was involved with child abuse.

Well, at least Elzevir limited himself to the soul...
wait, that makes it worse

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
That was a good segment to watch while I was getting my Halloween outfit (creepy clown) ready!

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all

I dont know posted:

This segment is FAR creepier knowing that one of the game's designers was involved with child abuse.

What the gently caress really?!?

DukeofCA
Aug 18, 2011

I am shocked and appalled.

Zain posted:

What the gently caress really?!?

From earlier in the thread:

quote:

Polygon in July 2014 posted:
Kenneth McCulloch, the former Silicon Knights director and Precursor Games founder who was arrested last year on child pornography charges, was sentenced this week in an Ontario Court of Justice. According to a report published by The Welland Tribune, Judge Joseph Nadel sentenced McCulloch to time served — 12 months — after the former game developer pleaded guilty to a charge of making child pornography available.

McCulloch had been in jail since his arrest in June 2013. While incarcerated, Niagara Regional Police reportedly hit McCulloch with new charges: sexual assault, forcible confinement and sexual interference. McCulloch is still in police custody, and will return to court next month to face those charges.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/30/59...ography-charges

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
1) gently caress, I completely forgot about the child abuse thing
2) Wtf is Halloween
3) Update (short one, I know, but the next one is a big one and it's already rendering, so I'll post that tomorrow)

nutri_void fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Oct 31, 2015

Zain
Dec 6, 2009

It's only forever, not long at all
I'm kind of confused. So the Time Streaming Device prevented the war then?

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Zain posted:

I'm kind of confused. So the Time Streaming Device prevented the war then?

It's a bit jarring. Some voice over/cutscene appears to be missing but IIRC this is how it's supposed to go:

Battle starts - >
king Ottmar gets killed - >
morale drops and people start running. Kain realizes the Nemesis has won. ->
last-ditch effort he uses the time streaming device ->
we are now in the past, before the nemesis gets his armies together. IIRC we are still after Ariel gets murdered and the pillars get corrupted/ go insane.

Next video Kain should IIRC start commenting on "oh that's event X - but that happened 20(/30/40/50?) years ago?!?!?!"

Also there's a bit of a vampire hunt/mob going on.

double nine fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Oct 31, 2015

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

Zain posted:

I'm kind of confused. So the Time Streaming Device prevented the war then?

No, it just moved Kain back in time so that Kain can now prevent the war. What happens next is spoilage until the next vid, which is when the game and myself give further clarifications

double nine posted:

It's a bit jarring. Some voice over/cutscene appears to be missing but IIRC this is how it's supposed to go:

Battle starts - >
king Ottmar gets killed - >
morale drops and people start running. Kain realizes the Nemesis has won. ->
last-ditch effort he uses the time streaming device ->
we are now in the past, before the nemesis gets his armies together. IIRC we are still after Ariel gets murdered and the pillars get corrupted/ go insane.

Next video Kain should IIRC start commenting on "oh that's event X - but that happened 20(/30/40/50?) years ago?!?!?!"

Kain is moved 50 years back, whereas Ariels's murder happened 30 years before the start of BO (at least I hope I'm not screwing this up) as established in later games. Blood Omen doesn't identify whether it's before or after Ariel's murder. However, it's irrelevant, as for this specific part only the fact that Kain can now prevent the Nemesis from becoming the Nemesis is is important

nutri_void fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 31, 2015

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
This is a weird part of the plot for me, because it's further than I got when I played Blood Omen, concerns events that aren't really seen later in the series, and yet is kind of pivotally important to the overall plot. I'm looking forward to seeing it unfold, since all I did before was read a plot summary and infer things from SR2.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

George posted:

This is a weird part of the plot for me, because it's further than I got when I played Blood Omen, concerns events that aren't really seen later in the series, and yet is kind of pivotally important to the overall plot. I'm looking forward to seeing it unfold, since all I did before was read a plot summary and infer things from SR2.

I will explain the relevance in the final part (don't want to do it right now, because spoilers). Hopefully, I understood your confusion correctly, but you'll be able to ask again if the answer isn't what you were looking for

---
On an unrelated note, I have recorded the entire game (both video and commentary), and drat am I tempted to just upload them all at once right now to be free to talk about the endgame ._. Gotta resist...

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.

Alexeythegreat posted:

On an unrelated note, I have recorded the entire game (both video and commentary), and drat am I tempted to just upload them all at once right now to be free to talk about the endgame ._. Gotta resist...

It's a slippery slope; I won't be content until the end of Defiance. You are going to be running the entire series, right?

RickVoid
Oct 21, 2010
Yeah, even after this game is done we still can't really talk about poo poo.

There's big things that we can't really discuss until at least the end of SR2. And immediately after that BO2 has what is in my opinion the biggest WTF plot point in the series.

I really, really hate that plot point.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer

George posted:

It's a slippery slope; I won't be content until the end of Defiance. You are going to be running the entire series, right?

As long as I don't get banned from Youtube for not muting Ozar Midrashim, yes, I am going to run the entire series. I even have the purple graphics (that's my way of procrastinating) for Soul Reaver done. Hopefully, the later games will be done in shorter timespans than half a year

RickVoid posted:

Yeah, even after this game is done we still can't really talk about poo poo.

There's big things that we can't really discuss until at least the end of SR2. And immediately after that BO2 has what is in my opinion the biggest WTF plot point in the series.

I really, really hate that plot point.

I'll allow tagged spoilers in the SR thread. Hell, there are tagged spoilers here, and I don't see anyone complaining

BO2 is just a sequence of these WTF plot points. I'm not even sure which one of them specifically you're talking about

nutri_void fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Nov 1, 2015

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
I only just this week watched the BO2 storyline, and while it sort of smoothed out one of the plot points it's basically totally unnecessary and causes more problems than it solves. It's definitely more of a Blood Omen game than a Soul Reaver, so it fits the series's zany naming conventions I guess.

Renzuko
Oct 10, 2012


Blood Omen 2 was really weird for me to jump into after only having previously played soul reaver 2, and the demo for soul reaver.

I THINK the war we just did is mentioned in the blood omen 2 opener?

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
Different war.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
Update! Only two more to go (plus bonus video, but I hate walking around the world and collecting secrets, so who knows how long it'll take me)

Pimpmust
Oct 1, 2008

Alexeythegreat posted:

Update! Only two more to go (plus bonus video, but I hate walking around the world and collecting secrets, so who knows how long it'll take me)


Tony Jay Voices Everyone: The Game.

:effort: remake of William the Just's castle there, but I laughed at the skulls part.

nutri_void
Apr 18, 2015

I shall devour your soul.
Grimey Drawer
Well, one could argue that having a skull is beneficial to one's health and well-being

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Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
Did the enemy soldiers manage to hit each other by accident at a few points in the last couple of updates? Like at 15 minutes...

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