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Ur-Nungal, son of Gilgamesh, managed to rule for less than a quarter of his old man's 126-year reign. He's gotta be up there on the list of dumbass leaders.
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Charles the second of Spain is a strong contender for worst, couldn't even gently caress his way into saving the Spanish Habsburgs
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May 2, 2015 06:48
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Nixon used this one weird trick to cause 9/11 and the Cold War. Click here to learn more.
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You know it's D&D when you can ctrl f "Mao" and keep hearing dinging sounds
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May 2, 2015 06:51
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or Stalin or RobespierreRaskolnikov38 posted:Charles the second of Spain is a strong contender for worst, couldn't even gently caress his way into saving the Spanish Habsburgs He's lucky he lived to be 30
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May 2, 2015 06:52
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Today in 2015, women are still sentenced to death by stoning, but did Hunter S Thompson ever write a clever article about how reptillian and bad they are? I think not. Checkmate Nixonailures.
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May 2, 2015 06:53
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District Selectman posted:Nixon used this one weird trick to cause 9/11 and the Cold War. Click here to learn more. You are very angry about people disliking Nixon. But I don't get your claims that the War on Drugs began when Nixon was in college. Are you referring to the beginning as the establishment of federal regulations and prohibitions of cannabis? Because that's distinct from the War on Drugs, a rhetorical term from a Nixon speech and codified with the Controlled Substances Act, which Nixon signed.
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May 2, 2015 06:57
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It's hilariously silly to call Nixon the worst leader of all time let alone the worst president. Anslinger started the war on drugs and it started almost immediately after prohibition on alcohol ended.
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May 2, 2015 06:59
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In my graduate studies research I uncovered a matrix of US presidents ranked by their statistics, including: Executive Ability, Imagination, Luck, and Intelligence scores. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php...nstitute_survey Does Abraham Lincoln deserve a better Ability to Compromise score than Eisenhower? Will George Washington's superior Foreign Policy Accomplishments modifier allow him to reign supreme over Truman and Polk? Tune in for next years exciting survey results.
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May 2, 2015 07:05
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Pegged Lamb posted:You know it's D&D when you can ctrl f "Mao" and keep hearing dinging sounds Well poo poo I can help you out there. Reasons Mao is bad: -His "Great Leap Forward" was a miserable failure that killed more people than both world wars put together -Never saw junk science that he didn't like, leading to many of the dumber parts of the Great Leap Forward -Face looked like a particularly ugly moai
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-didn't kill Richard Nixon when he had the chance
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-Troika- posted:Well poo poo I can help you out there. 
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Stultus Maximus posted:Nixon was the gooniest president. Hahaha someone get Billy West to record an audiobook of Nixon's love letters in his Futurama Nixon voice, stat. JonathonSpectre posted:2.George W. Bush: Just take a look at the state of the U.S. the day he took office and the day he left office. At peace + surplus + leader of the world to bogged down in multiple lovely quagmires + huge deficits due to insane tax cuts during said wars + international pariah clearly guilty of torture and other war crimes. What a loving disaster. Historians of the future will be brutal. I honestly hope, after he's gone, that all but one of his lovely paintings are hauled out of that museum he built for them and burned. The one that we save should be whichever is the most laughable/embarrassing, so that people who see it can be encouraged to make fun of it for how terrible it is. The remaining space in the museum should then be filled with the names of the civilians he murdered in Iraq (as well as pictures of them, when available), a thorough accounting of how much money he wasted on that escapade alone, the shotgun Dick Cheney shot his friend in the face with, that picture series of W. sexually assaulting Angela Merkle, and maybe the "Mission Accomplished" banner. Also, the toilet paper in the museum's bathroom should have pictures of Bush, Cheney, and the worst members of their cabinet printed on it.
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A room full of Donald Rumsfeld's post-it notes that you're forced to look up at and behold like the victims at the Holocaust Museum in DC.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Charles the second of Spain is a strong contender for worst, couldn't even gently caress his way into saving the Spanish Habsburgs He was actually pretty OK in the sense that he did not govern, which meant that governance was left to competent people.
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-Troika- posted:Well poo poo I can help you out there. If Mao had just died after the revolution, his legacy would've been great at least.
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May 2, 2015 16:53
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eSports Chaebol posted:If Mao had just died after the revolution, his legacy would've been great at least. The Abe Lincoln effect.
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It's hard to remember now but the U.S. had a decent brand in the 90's and 911 caused an initial outpouring of goodwill. Bush took this, spit on it and flushed it down the toilet without even being smart enough to realize that's what he was doing. The smallest dose of statesmanship could have translated that into something positive. But Bush didn't have it. Bush was not only a terrible president but was also utterly unsuited to the events of his time. It might be possible, but it would be incredibly hard to convince me that any recent president is as bad as Bush II.
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asdf32 posted:It's hard to remember now but the U.S. had a decent brand in the 90's and 911 caused an initial outpouring of goodwill Yeah, for a moment we were all Americans.  Bush really hosed that up spectatularly.
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I haven't read a large chunk of this thread, but the people citing Reagan and Bush realize there's no Reagan or Bush without Nixon, right? Nixon made it palatable to hack away at New Deal and Great Society policies by appealing to poor Southern whites' racism.
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LORD OF BUTT posted:I haven't read a large chunk of this thread, but the people citing Reagan and Bush realize there's no Reagan or Bush without Nixon, right? Nixon made it palatable to hack away at New Deal and Great Society policies by appealing to poor Southern whites' racism. Hypothetically assassinating Richard Nixon in 1967 wouldn't have stopped the forces that brought Reagan and Bush into office. The same net effects would happen even if the people you'd be lamenting right now would be slightly different.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Nixon was the gooniest president. A true cuck
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If I think too long about how terrible it was that Andrew Johnson became President of the United States it makes me sick to my stomach. Abraham Lincoln choosing that man to be his successor; what a terrible loving thing to have happened!
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computer parts posted:Hypothetically assassinating Richard Nixon in 1967 wouldn't have stopped the forces that brought Reagan and Bush into office. The same net effects would happen even if the people you'd be lamenting right now would be slightly different. It would have shut conservatism out for an election cycle at least. Nixon was probably the only electable candidate playing both sides of the conservative/liberal street at the time. If Nixon gets assassinated you end up with either Rockefeller or Reagan for the Republican candidate in '68. Rockefeller was a liberal and Reagan would have lost. Miltank fucked around with this message at 05:53 on May 3, 2015 |
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eSports Chaebol posted:Blame Manning and Assange too for revealing Tsvangirai's perfidy. What I've heard from my friends in the health ministry is that the generals were willing to go with Tsvangirai, so long as Mugabe was able to live in retirement without charges nor purges. China was no-go since Tsvangirai would have followed through on some protectionist policies against Chinese interests, so China was arming its own tribal paramilitary forces. And folks say America engages in colonialism. Not really, we merely back locals who are friendly to us. China? They create locals who are friendly to them by isolating and threatening.
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During Nixon's administration there were surprisingly some good things that happened despite the fact that he was...well, pretty power hungry. -EPA was created -OSHA was created -Ended the draft -"War on Cancer" -Lowered the deficit -Attempted to do Obamacare before Obamacare was a thing -Lowered the voting age -Title IX Meanwhile for Bush...I cannot recall anything good that occurred during his entire administration. It was bad. e: I keep thinking how ironic it is that most in the GOP absolutely detest the first two, despite the fact that should be one of the things they should truly hang their hat on as actually contributing good things to this country.
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May 3, 2015 07:27
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FuzzySkinner posted:During Nixon's administration there were surprisingly some good things that happened despite the fact that he was...well, pretty power hungry. Imagine what would have passed if we had Humphrey as president. You can't take a look at the legislation that Nixon signed without taking a look at the House and Senate during that same period.
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karthun posted:Imagine what would have passed if we had Humphrey as president. You can't take a look at the legislation that Nixon signed without taking a look at the House and Senate during that same period. Oh absolutely. Hell, I'd have love to have seen how a JFK/RFK presidency back to back would have turned out for example. But the difference is...at the very least those good things came out of the Nixon presidency. He didn't block them from not being things. There's not one single thing I can point to and go "gee that was a good idea!" in regards to the Bush White House. The Bush White House had the worst of the Nixon and Reagan Administrations mixed all together when you really think about it. The Reagan Administration was very good for (middle class white) america in the short term during those years, Those policies passed during the Nixon Administration have been very good for our country. There was no good feelings during the Bush years, nor any memorable GOOD legislation that any of us here could point to with some form of  to it.It was poo poo. The pop culture of the era was poo poo, the politics...the  cheerleading we got from idiots...just..I hate it. Nothing is remotely worth looking back at fondly during that time.
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FuzzySkinner posted:There's not one single thing I can point to and go "gee that was a good idea!" in regards to the Bush White House. Extended the Voting Rights Act with huge majorities? Also appointed the assholes who would later shred it 
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I was too young at the time, but what bad poo poo went down with Bush before 9/11? On a somewhat related note, what were JFK's notable achievements besides Apollo and the Cuban Missile Crisis?
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1. National Do Not Call Registry 2. ...I think he set aside a chuck of federal land as a protected wildlife reserve? 3. Created an inseparable bond between the words "Neoconservatism" and "George W. Bush", tarnishing the formers brand name for a generation. ...This is really hard you guys. 
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May 3, 2015 11:26
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gradenko_2000 posted:I was too young at the time, but what bad poo poo went down with Bush before 9/11? Well there were only 8 months between inauguration and the attacks. He mailed out some tax rebates or whatever to fight the post-dot-com-crash recession, I think he started putting in faith-based rules for charities to coerce them not to do abortions to receive federal money, and pretty much ignored all the intelligence about Al-Qaeda. Oh yeah he lowered a bunch of environmental standards when he came in, good times. Un-signed Kyoto. Just your standard dumb conservative bullshit before the attacks swept away opposition and let the Republicans brand any opposition as terrorist-loving treason. God those were bad years. VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 12:06 on May 3, 2015 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Oh absolutely. Hell, I'd have love to have seen how a JFK/RFK presidency back to back would have turned out for example. Or if Johnson hadn't hosed himself over with Vietnam and all that crap. Though he also took much damage from the race riots of the '60s as well, even though his handling of them wasn't abysmal, it was more that conservatives jumped at the chance to blame him and his policies for the state of affairs. Far as I can gather Johnson was even more ambitious than Kennedy as regards social and economic reforms and civil rights, and was a more ruthless (and possibly skilled) politician, and very skillfully used the sympathy after Kennedy's assassination to pass and broaden Kennedy's civil rights program. What I'm saying is that Johnson completely hosed himself over with his involvement in and handling of the Vietnam war. e: On the topic of Nixon and the '60s, everybody with a passing interest in that should read Nixonland by Rick Perlstein. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 12:13 on May 3, 2015 |
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It wasn't signed into law until 2002, but he got No Child Left Behind passed right out of the gate. That kind of poo poo was popular with everyone (except teachers) at the time anyway, but it's still a big reason our education system is hosed up the way it is.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I was too young at the time, but what bad poo poo went down with Bush before 9/11?
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FuzzySkinner posted:There's not one single thing I can point to and go "gee that was a good idea!" in regards to the Bush White House.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The AIDS treatment stuff was at least halfway decent (especially compared to the rest of the poo poo his administration did or tried to do). Basically the Dubya presidency is an exercise in 'This was good, but this was bad'. He's the Creepy Asian Guy from the living Krusty Doll episode of the Simpsons. I guess we got YouTube, widespread WiFi, smart phones and saw Janet Jackson's left tit during that time, tho .
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Alris posted:1. National Do Not Call registry The telemarketing calls I get daily prove otherwise
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