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I'm the kind of person that openly embraces the dumb bullshit of MGS4 and the games after it for what it's worth mainly because I never was THAT invested in where the plot or the universe was going. I was always more excited at seeing where Hideo Kojima's Wild Ride would head next, plausibility be damned. That said, even with the gameplay advances in 4 I still found MGS3 the better title mechanics wise because stealth was still a requirement and you couldn't completely circumvent it by going guns blazing all the time. Yeah, there's still some incentive for being sneaky, but not really much of a meaningful penalty to going full action instead.
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I personally found MGS3 the best of the group. The mechanics still aren't totally modern and smooth (though the Subsistence version adds a regular third-person camera mode like 4 had), but it lets you play quiet or loud without massive penalty and has a lot of neat features like the food and medical stuff. It's got really great music and the characters are mostly pretty awesome, and it fully embraces every insane 1960s spy film trope mixed with the Kojima craziness.
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May 10, 2015 21:48
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I'm a weirdo in that I really really like MGS2. Kojima crammed it so full of little mechanical details that are really incredible, and often not pointed out at all. (Like how the escort mission's the only place you need your sniper rifle, the rest of the times you might use it you can just manually aim the pistol in first person mode, and the sights actually work right and it has quite a bit of distance on it). Like, if you can look past how lame and whiny MGS2 Raiden is, it's a solid little game. Also, as we're not caring about spoilers, go ahead and check the PAL key in your inventory in the furnace and the freezer rooms. It totally changes shape long before they reveal that plot point to you.
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May 10, 2015 22:15
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I like MGS2 easily the most of the bunch. Solid gameplay, good plot without going too overboard with the exposition. I know a lot of people complain about Raiden, but honestly he wouldn't be half as annoying without Rose around. Also, if you think Mantis got screwed now, you haven't played the PC port. The game needed to be beatable so he only reads your input if you use a gamepad and you beat him by using the keyboard. Of course, very few people did have gamepads back then so this feature went completely over our heads. edit: Actually, I like Mantis a lot especially since he provides a pretty good explanation for his creepiness in his post-fight speech: he's so disgusted by seeing the sexual drive everywhere he uses it to weird people out, ie what he did with Meryl at the start. He's a rarely self-aware bad guy, which fits with his theme of breaking the fourth wall... KOJIMA! anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 09:15 on May 11, 2015 |
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May 11, 2015 09:10
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I liked MGS2 enough to 100% complete the dog tag collection back in the day  MGS3 feels a little better, but I do love me some MGS2.I never really got that annoyed by Raiden, although Rose pulled the drag chute on the entire game every god drat time you tried to save the game.
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May 11, 2015 15:35
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Danaru posted:I liked MGS2 enough to 100% complete the dog tag collection back in the day All hail the triangle button.
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May 11, 2015 15:43
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I feel like a failure because when I finally went out to get all the dog tags instead of just go through on easy exploring the game, I couldn't be the hind on Hard difficulty. drat thing wouldn't stop firing the machine gun long enough for me to get a shot in.
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May 11, 2015 16:33
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Choco1980 posted:I feel like a failure because when I finally went out to get all the dog tags instead of just go through on easy exploring the game, I couldn't be the hind on Hard difficulty. drat thing wouldn't stop firing the machine gun long enough for me to get a shot in.
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May 11, 2015 17:34
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MGS2 was my first MG game and the one I have probably played the most. I had never heard of the series before, and so when the Raiden switcheroo came about, I was not peeved off by it. I liked Raiden, in fact. He was kind of a dork, and that was just fine by me. However, I don't know how 16 year old me could possibly stomach getting all the dog tags on all difficulties.
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May 11, 2015 18:25
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MGS2 was pretty drat amazing when it came out. Not only it was visually gorgeous but it still runs better than many PS4 games. Luckily KojiPro's mentality for MGSV seems to be "Since we have more processing power now, we could actually use it to make the game perform better"
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May 11, 2015 19:52
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MGS2 and 3 were pretty ahead of the curve for the PS2 era. They had drat good graphics for their time, but they also had a major focus on motion-captured cutscenes that made them feel like CG movies.
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May 11, 2015 20:36
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Though the PS2 engine could not do particles and explosions to save it's life. Any more than 2 explosions close to the camera and it's bye bye framerate.
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ArclightBorealis posted:I got stopped by Olga on Extreme in MGS2 when I tried going for all the dog tags in the tanker chapter. The thing that hit me hard about it and kind of resent the game now for is how little the game's challenge increases during stealth as it does during the bosses. This was always the problem I had with MGS2. Back then, and even with the HD ports or whatever, I just could not get past Olga on Extreme. I had every dog tag in the Tanker up to that point on every difficulty, and then just a full brick wall of her getting perfect head shots forever. I always made a separate save just for tanker alone, just so if I did get stuck, I wouldn't make my save useless and I could still play other difficulties with my unlocks and try to forget extreme.
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For some reason I was able to handle her. I did all the tanker chapters separate when hunting for the tags, instead of running complete story mode. What's funny is then I didn't try subsistance for like, 4 or 5 years after that and it just tore me apart.
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May 11, 2015 22:17
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Stumbled over this while shark-tanking and I remembered this thread: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/metal-gear-solid-5-female-character-gets-an-unusua/1100-6427241/
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May 12, 2015 03:31
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I had entirely too much fun with MGS3 When it first came out, to the point that I actually bought Subsistence. And then I played multiplayer and immediately regretted it.
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May 12, 2015 07:23
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  Let's Play Metal Gear Solid Episode 6 - PupcaveWho's ready for some backtracking?! Fun facts for this episode: - The reason it doesn't let us backtrack is so we can't get the PSG-1 early. Doesn't mean I have to like it though. - Apparently my muscle memory remembers the pupcave way better than my brain does - I loving hate the sniper wolf fight. Snake moves the PSG-1 so slowly that you usually get shot before you can get your sights back on Wolf. MGS1's controls did NOT age well. The entire difficulty of the fight is solely how difficult it is to aim. - We finish up the most egregious backtracking in this and the next episode. I don't mind the PAL key backtracking as much, at least it's the same building, and we get to see REX by then. - Grace is a liar.
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May 12, 2015 11:07
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you know Danaru, since you are playing on a PS3, you can make as many Memory cards as you want and they aren't going to take up that much space unless you PS3's hard drive is already nearly full.
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May 12, 2015 15:32
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It occurs that later games(MGS4 being the worst offender) have long stretches of cutscenes that don't give you a chance to break between them. Are episode lengths going to change in later games as a result?
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May 12, 2015 17:55
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I had no idea you could stun the wolves. You sure as crap can't shoot them if Meryl's there. And yeah, Grace is right, Sniper Wolf is the one taking care of the dogs (alongside Otacon...how does that dweeb get so many chicks? Like seriously, every single woman with issues in the series (so every single woman in the series) is totally dickmatized by this guy who's basically a goon) and if you hang on to her handkerchief that you get after battle 2 as your primary item, it has the same effect as the peed-on box without effing up your mobility. Also those wolves are crazy. One time I went through during a point after this in the game and didn't do any measures to make them like me, so they were all riled up, and I decided to take a breather outside the crawlspace. They were going nuts for me on the other side. Then I hear this scraping sound, and look in first person, and one wolf is actually crawling very slowly under the rocks, scraping against them to get to me in his rage, and made it through to fight me. 
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Stun grenades are a really good idea that I never thought of. I always just backed myself into a corner and mowed down the attacking wolves with the FA-MAS, not exactly the best showing for the legendary Solid Snake.
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mateo360 posted:you know Danaru, since you are playing on a PS3, you can make as many Memory cards as you want and they aren't going to take up that much space unless you PS3's hard drive is already nearly full. Yeah I just didn't want to quit the game and reload during the session. The only reason it happened at all is because I'm a stubborn jerk  The pictures will all be deleted before our next recording sessionIron Chitlin posted:Stun grenades are a really good idea that I never thought of. I always just backed myself into a corner and mowed down the attacking wolves with the FA-MAS, not exactly the best showing for the legendary Solid Snake. pups no 
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I liked the Briefings in MGS1. Sure it's a lot of exposition but it's really cool exposition compared to say, MGS4's Briefings. I just remember being really blown away by the cinematic style of them. They also make Snake look like he has blond hair, which was part of a huge debate in the MGS fandom about what color Snake's hair is. After all, why cut his hair if it's naturally brown and Liquid's is blond? He cut his hair so as not to be mistaken for Liquid but if they have two entirely different hair colors, this shouldn't be a problem. You know, I remember I must have played MGS1 for the first time when I was in high school because I recall learning about genes and hearing that blond hair was a recessive trait and Iteeange me was all sorts of confused because that didn't match up at all with what this video game told me.
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Let's Play Metal Gear Solid Episode 7 - Hostage Situation Two things Grace loves: Accent Humour, Making me uncomfortable. Two things Grace hates: Meryl, Trading Card Games Fun facts for this episode: - Before we started, Grace made me agree to submit to the torture right away - Before we started, I made Grace agree to not make fun of Mei Ling's accent - You just have to hit circle to use the ketchup, without the menu open. The one thing I didn't try. It's been a while
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Danaru posted:
Naomi is African so Sniper Wolf can be a white, blonde haired Kurd if she wants. quote:Two things Grace hates: Meryl, Trading Card Games LP a Yugioh game.
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FillInTheBlank posted:Naomi is African so Sniper Wolf can be a white, blonde haired Kurd if she wants. That's fair, this series is really wierd about nationalities in general.
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NikkolasKing posted:I liked the Briefings in MGS1. Sure it's a lot of exposition but it's really cool exposition compared to say, MGS4's Briefings. I just remember being really blown away by the cinematic style of them. Didn't he also dye it?
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May 14, 2015 18:21
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Alaska can be quite warm. About 8 years ago it was warmer there than in Michigan, where it was snowing in September.
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Danaru posted:That's fair, this series is really wierd about nationalities in general. Nah it just likes lesser-known ethnic minorities for characters. And Kurds totally can have blonde hair and blue-eyes.
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Naomi is specifically Rhodesian, which had a predominately white government and had a 3.7% white population (about 308,000 people) around the time Naomi was born.
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chitoryu12 posted:Naomi is specifically Rhodesian, which had a predominately white government and had a 3.7% white population (about 308,000 people) around the time Naomi was born. Rigged Death Trap posted:Nah it just likes lesser-known ethnic minorities for characters. Huh, maybe it's me that didn't do enough research I still reserve the right to make fun of the nonsensical accent usage though.Also I happened to stumble across this art by Setz of Sniper Wolf and the pups  As much as I despise her first boss fight, I do like her as a character. Her and Raven really did deserve a better fate then they got 
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The way MGS has been going, not showing up in a sequel is the best fate a character can get.
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Dabir posted:Didn't he also dye it? That's a popular theory. But it's also possible his hair just looks blonde because of the "style" those scenes were shot in. I'm not against the idea he dyed his hair but it wouldn't be hard to provide arguments to the contrary. RIP Meryl.
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The auto-fire comment means if you use an official Sony controller that has a rapid fire setting on it, he'll tell you to stop cheating and start over from scratch. I had an off-brand that he couldn't tell for and totally cheesed it all the time. Also, I totally called it back in 1998 that they were lampshading that Big Boss wasn't dead here as the big reason why they weren't sending his remains to the terrorists. I forget, doesn't if you wait long enough in the prison cell Grey Fox comes and springs you?
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"There's no Geneva Convention here!" - We're legit the only ones that follow that code so there's no need to ever bring that up. It's well known we're the only ones that actually follow it too. (Even if it's poorly at times)
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Choco1980 posted:The auto-fire comment means if you use an official Sony controller that has a rapid fire setting on it, he'll tell you to stop cheating and start over from scratch. I had an off-brand that he couldn't tell for and totally cheesed it all the time. Yep! He slashes up the door lock, and even if you don't leave, Johnny notices the door is open and shoots at you. Also if it does catch you doing autofire, it just electrocutes you forever and never actually ends. I figured something cool would happen I could have sworn in the Twin Snakes, he shoots you if he detects autofire, but I also can't find any videos of it.EDIT: I found this horrible quality clip of Ocelot breaking the 4th wall even more than he did in the PSX version, I love MGS' constaint fourth wall breaking.
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I just found my instruction booklet for Metal Gear Solid actually. If you want I can try to scan it so you guys can read up on some of the backstory.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:I just found my instruction booklet for Metal Gear Solid actually. If you want I can try to scan it so you guys can read up on some of the backstory. Oh hell yeah, I lost my book like ten years ago (and skipped the in game briefing since I figured it wouldn't make for good videos), so I'd be interested in seeing it again
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I saw a dude run Metal Gear Ac!d about 1/3 of the way through. It was like someone decided to take MGS2's Snake Tales and put it on...well, acid. Seriously, you are not prepared.
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