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Imaduck posted:I feel like this whole thing is just an argument between folks who live in cities with things like "good public transportation" and "legitimate taxi services" and those who don't. Why do you feel that way? What I'm saying is that a city or municipality has the right--really, the obligation--to regulate businesses, including taxi businesses or taxi-like businesses such as Uber. If the town doesn't have great public transport, they'll probably give taxis more leeway and want more of them.
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Obdicut posted:First, that's a false dichotomy: regulating taxis doesn't mean you have to leave regular cars untouched. You can charge a congestion fee or something else along those lines. Second, increased taxi availability (and drive-down costs from it) means fewer people take public transport and walk. Lack of taxis doesn't tend to significantly drive private car ownership or usage. No, I'm not saying one is incompatible with the other, I'm saying that your argument doesn't actually support the policy you're defending (putting special restrictions on taxi numbers beyond those that apply to private cars). Taxis being a substitute for private car usage isn't actually necessary for your argument to be wrong!
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Jul 22, 2015 23:05
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I'm fine with kicking Uber out of all cities and having it be a free-for-all out in the sticks. Unfortunately Uber has now become fashionable, mentioned in pop songs and used by politicians (maybe that doesn't mean it's fashionable..). Looks like we're all welcoming the Kali Yuga with open arms.
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Jul 22, 2015 23:08
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:That sounds like a good argument for increasing vehicle and gas taxes. It's an extremely bad argument for restricting the number of taxis while leaving regular cars untouched. That fucks over the worker class, all of them, harder than Uber could ever hope to. Also nearly all actual taxis are Priuses at this point anyway.
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Jul 22, 2015 23:36
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IRQ posted:That fucks over the worker class, all of them, harder than Uber could ever hope to. Also nearly all actual taxis are Priuses at this point anyway. Camry or escape hybrids. Where do you see priuses???
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Jul 22, 2015 23:44
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Tautologicus posted:Camry or escape hybrids. Where do you see priuses??? Literally everywhere I've been that has taxis in the past year? There are occasionally other vehicles in addition to priuses (props to Spain for E-Class taxis!) but Prius taxis are a pretty common sight everywhere I've been recently.
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Jul 23, 2015 00:00
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PT6A posted:Literally everywhere I've been that has taxis in the past year? There are occasionally other vehicles in addition to priuses (props to Spain for E-Class taxis!) but Prius taxis are a pretty common sight everywhere I've been recently. Europe then? Never seen a prius taxi in the US. Maybe i am not paying attention. They get ~10 mpg more in the city than the ones i mentioned so itd be a big deal i think. the worst thing is fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 00:03
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Tautologicus posted:Europe then? Never seen a prius taxi in the US. Maybe i am not paying attention. Bunch of Prius taxi's in Phoenix. They all drive like poo poo, just like regular
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Jul 23, 2015 00:05
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Tautologicus posted:Europe then? Never seen a prius taxi in the US. Maybe i am not paying attention. In Europe, yes, but also the local fleet in Calgary (and we love our oil industry!). They really need to make something like the Crown Vic/Towncar in a modern, hybrid format. Sure, it's like driving a couch, but it can fit an absurd amount of luggage, and it's really large and comfortable. I wouldn't buy one to drive, but I'd pay a premium to take one as a taxi/sedan.
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Jul 23, 2015 00:53
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:No, I'm not saying one is incompatible with the other, I'm saying that your argument doesn't actually support the policy you're defending (putting special restrictions on taxi numbers beyond those that apply to private cars). Taxis being a substitute for private car usage isn't actually necessary for your argument to be wrong! I have no clue what you think my argument is.
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Jul 23, 2015 01:32
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Tautologicus posted:Europe then? Never seen a prius taxi in the US. Maybe i am not paying attention. I see a lot of Prius's(Prii?) in Sacramento and the S.F. Bay Area - there's still a few old-school Crown Vics, but most taxis nowadays seem to be vastly more efficient vehicles than ten years ago.
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Jul 23, 2015 02:14
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Tautologicus posted:Camry or escape hybrids. Where do you see priuses??? DC and the MD suburbs thereof it's nearly all Priuses with the occasional relic crown vic/impala cop fleet castoff stiil puttering along and the mobility vans. It's a combination of the good gas mileage and the ungodly reliability; those things will do 300k miles without breaking a sweat. e: the greater point was that there isn't a need to encourage real taxi companies to become more fuel efficient by hurting the working class with gas taxes, they are already doing it because it is the economic thing to do. Uber requiring newish vehicles isn't awful from that perspective either, but they don't care if you drive a Suburban or a Prius as long as it's newer than X. IRQ fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 02:28
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ICYMI: Uber forgot about collecting taxes in Canada and are saying it's up to the driver to do it. So non-canadians understand - HST must be collected (can be included in the price, but must be labelled as such) and their HST number must be on the receipt. There is an out clause that if the entity issuing the receipt is making under $30k they don't have to register and collect, but they need to prove they won't make that. With Uber issuing the receipt, the driver has no way of increasing the fair to compensate and collect the taxes if warranted. Also the receipt is issued from Uber, not the end driver. http://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2015/07/21/uber-says-drivers-are-expected-to-collect-hst.html posted:Uber Canada says it’s up to its drivers to collect the HST from customers and turn it over to the government.
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