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Hey folks, Long story short, I've been developing a script, The Wounded over the past 2 years about a soldier who accidentally kills a child in Afghanistan, and the battle that ensues as the Afghani father comes to North America looking for revenge. We shot a trailer last year over 5 days with some of Vancouver's finest stunt people and film crew on board. We even cast Patrick Sabongui (Godzilla, The Flash, 300, White House Down, 24) as one of our leads. We are in a large film contest in Vancouver fighting for a $1,000,000 prize to get our movie made and a guaranteed theatrical release across Canada by our largest theatre chain. Essentially, I would love some feedback and advice from military folks, veterans, anyone who can chime in to give me some input. Here's a quick bit of info about my film, THE WOUNDED. This video explains it in a minute and a half, more detailed info below: http://www.thewoundedmovie.com Why Are We Different? The Wounded is not your traditional “revenge flick”, it’s a twist on an old genre that focuses on the dramatic effects the war has had on two people from opposite ends of a conflict in the Middle East. Traditionally a revenge flick focuses on a North American protagonist looking to kill the people who have hurt him or his family. We flip that on its head and instead follow a Muslim father from the other side of the world, who’s child was accidentally killed by a North American soldier over there while trying to keep the peace. We follow this Muslim father on his journey into the darkness, believing this is what will make things right. This is not a movie about terrorism or religion, it’s about two fathers who are more alike than they would ever know. Concept: A loving, working class father from Afghanistan, Naseer, travels to North America to seek revenge upon the soldier responsible for his son’s death. Back in a small, dusty country town, the soldier mentally wounded by the effects of war, Patrick, tries to patch things up with his distant family. When Naseer crosses the oceans to put a plan for justice and revenge into motion, both fathers are pushed back into the world of violence they tried to leave behind in a battle to survive each other and do right for their family. So, as you can see, we are hitting on some touchy subjects. We are not looking to make a clear cut bad guy in this story, but really showcase what war does to people. There is a minute long trailer here that goes into more stunts, drama, and cinematics: http://www.cinecoup.com/the-wounded/trailer I'd love some thoughts on a few topics: 1. Do you think people would be willing to watch a movie with an empathetic anti-hero even if he's an Afghan? Do you HAVE to see the Afghani man die in the end to satisfy an audience, especially military folks? Even if we understand why he'd want revenge? 2. Our Afghani father's motivations have nothing to do with this religion, Islam, and have everything to do with finding peace by killing his son's killer (even though it was accidental). Do you, as military folk think this is feasible or would the majority of people who have been in combat be unwilling to accept this viewpoint where religion has nothing to do with his motivations to find and kill a North American soldier? 3. I posted over a year ago looking for some viewpoints on PTSD for research, and got some great responses. I have taken the majority of that out of the storyline as it's not a major focus and I want to respect a very serious topic. We do however have our hero having a hard time adjusting to being back with his family while his friends are still in combat and dying. Does anyone have experience they could talk about re-adjusting to civilian life again? 4. On that note, the entire point of the story is to show that there are people on the other side that are just as human we are, and are affected by the violence in conflict just as much as we are. We want the audience to be torn in the end, to not want EITHER of them to die. I'm not sure this will satisfy audiences, but I'd love thoughts on this. I've included some of our materials below to look at. Finally, if this sounds interesting and you like what we are doing or want to see us advance, please feel free to signup quickly, rate our videos, and VOTE for us. But this thread isn't about that, so no pressure. Thanks for taking the time to read this, I appreciate any feedback or advice you guys are willing to give. On that note, I'm trying to expand my reach as well and would love to hear from any Muslims in the military as well, we do not want to offend anyone and want to make sure we respect both sides of the conflict. Also, I'm not religious, I was raised Christian, this is not a religious movie.      
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put this in it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QOkyCOG7og
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May 6, 2015 02:51
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Well, for one thing, Afghani is a unit of currency.
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May 6, 2015 02:56
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Spicy Guacamole posted:Well, for one thing, Afghani is a unit of currency.
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May 6, 2015 02:58
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op just turn this into a feature length film tia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J1ctr877qs
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May 6, 2015 03:02
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I watched the trailer and it looks like you're going for a typical revenge film so I guess my question is why bother about some kind of messaging poo poo here? are you making an action movie or a messaging movie
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May 6, 2015 03:04
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yo how did nasheeb or w/e get tonys canadian dd214 the same day his kid got capped?
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May 6, 2015 03:27
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Put me in it. Make me the hero.
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May 6, 2015 04:06
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Helldump Immunity. posted:Put me in it. Make me the hero. agreein with this
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May 6, 2015 04:43
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StuntKid posted:A loving, working class father from Afghanistan  It wouldn't be hard to believe that someone would be motivated by something other than Islam to want to start a revenge trip. What would be hard to get, honestly, is how capable your Afghan is in North America. The average working class Afghan has absolutely no means without external support to leave Afghanistan and would definitely not speak English, he'd be lucky if he even spoke both of Afghanistan's major languages and that's his own country. For me, regardless if his son was killed or the Koran has him infant-shaking-mad about something, I have no faith in his ability to follow through with any kind of plan to come kill a NA soldier without the support of a terrorist organization or some other group or charity. Maybe if your guy joins AQ to handle the logistics of his jihad I'd be able to get around the idea more, most people join AQ for reasons other than religion anyway. tl;dr make the Afghan a Special Forces soldier and rename the movie "Green on Blue" Analogical fucked around with this message at 06:03 on May 6, 2015 |
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May 6, 2015 05:58
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every afghanidad I saw chilled in the shade and poo poo into irrigation ditches while his wives and children busted their asses farming. pretty much the best dadlife you could have imo.
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May 6, 2015 06:07
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I'd find it more believable if the dude were Iraqi rather than Afghan.
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May 6, 2015 06:10
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Delizin posted:I'd find it more believable if the dude were Iraqi rather than Afghan. is it because the protagonist isn't wearing sandals?
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May 6, 2015 06:16
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Probably easier to base it in Afghanistan, I think eastern BC looks a lot like Yakima/Afghanistan in some areas. At least the enlisted guy's car is accurate
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May 6, 2015 06:18
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I'm glad that someone in this day and age finally has the courage to step up and say that afghans are human beings too. Goonspeed.
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May 6, 2015 06:46
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it looks like people haven't earnestly answered your four questions, so i think i'll help: 1. 14 2. 88 3.  4.  gl movie person
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May 6, 2015 14:16
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:yo how did nasheeb or w/e get tonys canadian dd214 the same day his kid got capped? krispykremessuck posted:I watched the trailer and it looks like you're going for a typical revenge film so I guess my question is why bother about some kind of messaging poo poo here? are you making an action movie or a messaging movie I've been pitching this as Collateral Damage meets Changing Lanes. It's not your normal film ending at all.
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May 6, 2015 14:49
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Patrick should have a patchy, but wildly overgrown beard, smoke A Lot of weed, and his primary goals should be bleeding money out of the government and staring at college-aged girls' asses in yoga pants
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May 6, 2015 16:28
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DownByTheWooter posted:Patrick should have a patchy, but wildly overgrown beard, smoke A Lot of weed, and his primary goals should be bleeding money out of the government and staring at college-aged girls' asses in yoga pants
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May 6, 2015 18:15
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I'm your new lead
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May 6, 2015 18:15
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May 6, 2015 18:39
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Please put my username in the credits.
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May 6, 2015 18:51
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"no one leaves war for free" is not a good tagine and there is no such thing as a working class in Afghanistan Wondering if you have read my storyboard yet??
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May 6, 2015 19:08
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You're going to have knee jerk folks immediately poo poo on your movie because it's showing "Are Troops" as people who kill children, even if it is on accident. Protestors will be a problem in Texas, the South and other places. You will be fellated by angry college kids who think American Sniper was propaganda, right up until they realize the movie doesn't seem to be about how awful the West is, but instead about how awful human conflict is, then they'll rail against you on tumblr and twitter until someone in a high enough position accidentally calls a tranny by the wrong loving made up pro-noun. All that said, it's a thought provoking premise and it does look like it might be a good watch. Though if you REALLY want me to like it, make sure every background TV has Four Lions playing on it
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May 6, 2015 19:17
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Now that I've actually read the OP I do have a (possibly) contributing thing. I've heard something (and Generation Kill) that Iraqis don't see death the same way as us and probably wouldn't go to the lengths of revenge. I don't know if that transfers to Afghans but they're basically the same thing. Right?
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May 6, 2015 19:23
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Booblord Zagats posted:All that said, it's a thought provoking premise and it does look like it might be a good watch. Though if you REALLY want me to like it, make sure every background TV has Four Lions playing on it remake this movie into Four Lions 2: Eight Lions.
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May 6, 2015 19:24
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Fucitol posted:remake this movie into Four Lions 2: Eight Lions. Jabar flees his wedding day and seeks out childhood friend Spin Gul, a Karachi street vendor. They become roommates, and Jabar joins Spin Gul's social circle of single men in their mid-20s: struggling actor Wahid, business professional Zmarak, masseuse and musician Patang, widower Abdul Hamid (Spin Gul's older brother), and twin street performers Karim and Rakim. Dissatisfied with their lives, the group aspire to become mujahideen, and travel to Peshawar to receive training from Zmarak's uncle's coworker's cousin's village mullah's former roomate. Episodes typically depict the friends' comedic and romantic adventures and holy war issues, such as Wahid struggling to use a DShK or Patang seeking out chai boys. The eight characters each have many dates and serious relationships, such as Spin Gul with Mohammed Maalik and Patang with various farm animals. Abdul Hamid and Jabar's intermittent relationship is the most often-recurring storyline; during the ten seasons of the show they will repeatedly date and break up, even while Abdul Hamid briefly marries Natkai, he and Jabar still see each other on Thursdays. Other frequently recurring characters include Zmarak's uncle in Quetta, Abdul Hamid's former father-in-law, and local warlord Bazir Khan, whose beard changes color every episode. Naked Bear fucked around with this message at 20:37 on May 6, 2015 |
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May 6, 2015 20:30
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Spicy Guacamole posted:Eight Lions, but instead of a movie, it's actually a sitcom: Also Rakim gets a monkey for like 5 episodes during sweeps
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May 6, 2015 21:21
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 Hello, my name is 1000 Afghani Note. You kill my family, prepare to die.
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May 6, 2015 21:34
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really lmbo at the idea of some illiterate poppy farmer somehow stumbling his way to canada to kill some random guy
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May 6, 2015 22:02
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:really lmbo at the idea of some illiterate poppy farmer somehow stumbling his way to canada to kill some random guy he starts walking to Kabul for a flight but gets the nods a quarter mile into the journey and has to stop ~fin~
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May 6, 2015 22:05
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StuntKid posted:I've been pitching this as Collateral Damage meets Changing Lanes. It's not your normal film ending at all. Oooh, do the white dude and the afghan realize they're not that different after all, and decide to let each other live?
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May 6, 2015 22:39
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FrozenVent posted:Oooh, do the white dude and the afghan realize they're not that different after all, and decide to let each other live? Both get smoked by a predator drone when they realize the error of their ways and get gay-married in Pakistan,
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May 6, 2015 22:43
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my actual idea i pitched to kks last night is this: have the setup like it is, but the canadian dude does a murder/suicide on his family and the afghan dude gets snatched by the feds at the airport and gets disappeared to a cia blacksite and never seen again. i think it would really capture the futility of life or something
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May 6, 2015 22:50
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:my actual idea i pitched to kks last night is this: this was what I was getting at w/ the dui crash but I like your idea better
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May 7, 2015 00:19
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Delizin posted:I'd find it more believable if the dude were Iraqi rather than Afghan. Also I demand GiP receive consulting credit.
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Anita Dickinme posted:Now that I've actually read the OP I do have a (possibly) contributing thing. I've heard something (and Generation Kill) that Iraqis don't see death the same way as us and probably wouldn't go to the lengths of revenge. I don't know if that transfers to Afghans but they're basically the same thing. Right? they all smell the same to me 
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Helldump Immunity. posted:Put me in it. Make me the hero. Edit: Booblord Zagats posted:Though if you REALLY want me to like it, make sure every background TV has Four Lions playing on it I honestly think this is a good idea. Godholio fucked around with this message at 01:47 on May 7, 2015 |
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