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Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
My friend and I were just talking about how it would be cool to play a Mafia game. I haven't played before and he hasn't played in a while.

I'll sign up to see what it's like.

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Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

EccoRaven posted:

An Ecco PromiseTM is the cheap former-Soviet-bloc knockoff of a normal promise.


I've never pulled a tao jones!! Tao disappears, I'm always around. I think once though I just was on the struggletrain to nowheretown and had to reschedule it for a few months later.

So this being my first game and all I only have knowledge of the way it works from reading basically the wikipedia page on it.

Can you explain how this will work for me please Ecco?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
We get a 24 hour period to chat and vote right? And votes go in the thread not PMs to you?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Ok one more question: What is a Doctor?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

EccoRaven posted:

Gridlocked question are you an Shanakin real life friends or internet friends?

If you are real life friends then I am going to preemptively make you Unconfirmed Masons (see the wiki) so you can talk about the game in real life together.

If you are internet friends then I'll probably do the same thing but no promises.

We are Real Life friends.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

EccoRaven posted:

Congrats! I will still use an RNG to figure out everyone's roles like normal, but, consider yourselves Unconfirmed Masons. You may talk freely to each other about the game outside of the thread.

But beware! Now you can't even trust your own friend, since they might be a mafia :hehe:

I don't trust him anyway. You should see board game night. rear end in a top hat dicks me over just for laughs.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
We are trying to roleplay our flavour defined roles right?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

fiery_valkyrie posted:

Shine ya shoes guv'nor?

Coor blimey mista' since those rumors started the streets aren't safe at night. Hows a lad supposed to sleep with the watch AND thems-in-the-dark out eh?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Meinberg posted:

Alright, time to see how rusty my skills are.

##vote Kleedrac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrtl41oZxOA

##vote Kleedrac

Rolling start is a good start. Sorry Kleedrac, stab in the dark because YouTube is funny.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Poque posted:

meinberg why do you hate babies?

DGK why do you wanna see a baby have hot, probably gay sex?

I kinda wanna change my vote to you now.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Poque posted:

do it then!

That would mean voting against Rolling Start. Are you insane?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
I voted because someone posted a youtube video.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
I think any semblance of roleplaying the urchins fighting over magical coins like Ecco was hoping has been lost entirely.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

fiery_valkyrie posted:

What do you think of the other players?

This is all just opinions mind:

It's the first vote man. It maybe my first Mafia game but I am fairly sure it is entirely either meta or baseless voting for random rear end reasons. It's not like a game of Rebellion where we are sitting around a table and can look for physical reactions to voting.

I think everyones just arguing because they are paranoid as hell they will be the day 1 sacrificial lamb and want to make sure they aren't getting pinged day 2 for their behaviour in day 1 discussions.

I also think the only people who care about day 1 votes should be mafia members trying not to get one of their buddies taken out by bad luck. Townies have basically nothing to go on and this is just a chance to maaaaybe take out a mafia member by spinning the wheel and getting to see reactions.

Then again I could be playing this game entirely wrong. :downs: It's my first day.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

WHICH WAY MADNESS posted:

Ahhhh...

Makes more sense.


Ok, instituting my newbie d1 pass here.

I will point out you are one of the people that falls into my 2nd sentence.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

fiery_valkyrie posted:

Cool, but do you have any opinions on individual players?

I don't know any of you enough to have formed opinions beyond my generalist one as started above.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
And this arguing is why voting due to a youtube video is valid when you're taking shots in the dark.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
I am very confused. Is Dead Cow evil or is Bowmore evil?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Grandicap posted:

Neither, one or the other, both? Only the flips will tell. Day 1 you have to make inferences based on very limited information, day 2 is better as you typically have 2 flips to make connections based off of.

True enough. I just wanted to see people's (structured) arguments instead of reading through "IMPLYING YOU'RE NOT EVIL" a few times.

Still I have 2 hours to change my vote, at this rate no one is getting lynched.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
##unvote

Choo-choo all aboard the kill someone on turn 1 for no real reason train.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
##vote Dead Cow

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Shanakin posted:


actually I'm curious, could you elaborate a bit on the patterns?


I too would actually like the patterns. I am poo poo at analysing them.

##unvote

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
I don't wanna vote for DC now. She is being more helpful to a newbie then anyone else so far; I ain't gonna dick move on my first vote.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Bleh also I must leave now for a half hour so I may miss the hammer on my vote.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Grandicap posted:

No lynching is bad. It makes day 2 just like day 1, you need the info the d1 lynch provides.

I do totally agree with this. If I have to ##vote Dead Cow I will. Sorry Dead Cow.

I am pretty sure you will come up as a Townie but I would rather some hard information then no hard information.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

WHICH WAY MADNESS posted:

Lynch all liars is a dumb argument.

It is kinda dumb.

If DC isn't getting hammered I'm just gonna ##unvote from her and find a better target. I am willing to trust her at the moment.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Meinberg posted:

First, I'm not set on Dead Cow. My primary reason for voting her is to avoid a no vote out, though that particular circumstance seems increasingly likely.

Second, I really do not like her interaction with/tunneling on Bowmore. The interactions with regard to Bowmore and Kleedrac seem tenuous at best, disingenuous at worse. Then her analysis of the vote histories seems to be her attempting to find a new narrative to explain why Bowmore is scummy, showing a general reluctance to look elsewhere for potential scum.

I am more willing to believe Bowmore is scummy then DC.

So far I have no real reason to think YOU are scummy. Not sure why DKG thinks "she posted too much on day 1" is a bad reason to vote; hell no one voted for me when I announced I'd cast my vote based on whether or not people linked youtube in their post. If we were casting serious votes on number of posts/random content I'd vote for Porque and his weird dead baby post.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

bowmore posted:

You are willing to trust her but you think her argument is dumb?

Because I think her "lynch all liars" idea is dumb, I should not trust her? That isn't how trust works man.

You sound pretty hardcore on the kill DC train though.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

bowmore posted:

Because I think she's scum yeah, I know your new but that's how this game works

And she thinks you're scum. So what you're out to remove her before she gets people to remove you?

Don't assume just because I am new to Mafia I don't understand how the pointing fingers game works.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

bowmore posted:

well yeah, that's how mafia works

it's not inherently scummy to play the game

Well for the sake of lynching someone and getting some information I will ##vote Dead Cow. Sorry.

I am pretty sure she will come up Townie though.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

bowmore posted:

hey did we just no-lynch? good job guys

Still got 2mins on my clock?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
I have a feeling that Ecco is waiting to see if that last vote comes in for DC considering it is really just you and me posting at the moment Bow

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
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AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Quandary posted:

I really do not like how Shanakin handled the deadline.

Votes DC on a non-case, then unvotes and leaves his vote on me for lurking for the remainder of the deadline. This screams to me newish scum trying to get a no-lynch but also trying to look invested in the game and deadline.

Lurker be mad someone voted for him.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Real men #vote DKG2000 because someone else made a compelling argument and that was pretty boss.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Shanakin posted:

Well not sure if it's an improvement for my case but I actually unvoted you, or at least tried to, and then went get some food and to bake pastries for the afore mentioned eurovision party distraction, forgot the deadline, and didn't make it back to vote before nightfall like I intended to. Do votes need to be bolded for the machine? Seems like it must be.

Gonna point out that he BURNT the pastries as well, thus we didn't have any for the party.

Though he made up for it by bringing brioche from the shops. If you guys want a good reason to lynch Shanakin, burning pastries for our Eurovision party is a pretty important one.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

fiery_valkyrie posted:

What is your opinion of Shanakin's content in the game?

Quandary posted:

Thata kinda irrelevant obviously, I mean he did burn the pastries.

But seriously his content so far doesn't strike me as odd. However I can vouch for him telling the truth about his day 1 voting; we were together most of that day, he did actually attempt to cook pastries and when he should have made his vote instead of reminding him we ended up playing a match of Bloodbowl; during which he went "Oh poo poo I forgot to vote" when I asked had he done so yet. He ain't lying; he plain lost track of time and forgot to do it on time.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

fiery_valkyrie posted:

What is your opinion of Shanakin's content in the game?

Apparently my vote didn't go through into the machine so I will do it again.

##vote DKG

If I had to guess the scum I think it's him and bowmore. DKG was very quick to flip his votes around and poo poo as previously mentioned in this post my Asiina. bowmore just gives off a suspicious vibe, like he wants a finger in every pie.

While I don't like getting the newbie poster, bandwagoning baddie; I will accept it because due to my lack of experience in this game I know I am defaulting to other people's investigations rather than my own. But I don't really know what exactly to look for.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
I think Quandary is wasting a vote in voting for Shanakin. As he and I learnt earlier, attempting to hold out to the end is cool and all but getting distracted can ruin it.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

DGK2000 posted:

Hey can we just lynch me already to town can finish losing this game? Thanks.

##vote DGK.

I don't think this behaviour helps much.

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Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

DGK2000 posted:

I think you have enough discussion to decide if Im scum or not. And if you're saying this, you don't actually believe I'm scum.

It's nothing to do with if I think you're scum or not man; I just think the "gently caress it gonna vote for myself because obviously I'm gonna lose" is just poor quality behaviour.

QuoProQuid posted:

Don't do that, man. Give people a reason to not believe you are scum. Give me reads, thoughts, anything.

QPQ knows where it's at.

Dead Cow posted:

I still think it's bowmore and wwm, and I'd agree with wwm saying Shanakin is newbie scum.

fv is off the hook for now

##vote Shanakin

This is weird. You think a scummy player is WWM but you're ok with voting for someone else he is pointing the finger at?

Why?

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