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speaking of death, i still don't fully get the 'suicide is illegal' thing that some places have. you can't prosecute the dead, and if you're trying to kill yourself, you most likely don't give a flying gently caress about the law if you fail. basically in a nutshell: kill yourself
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It's more a way of forcing someone who attempted suicide to get help. They don't prosecute with jail time just court ordered therapy.
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May 16, 2015 13:30
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Shadow posted:It's more a way of forcing someone who attempted suicide to get help. Does it come up on criminal record checks etc?
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May 16, 2015 13:32
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probably, last thing you want to do is hire a mentally ill person lmao
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May 16, 2015 13:39
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Boston has just executed Tom Brady. White America in shock
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May 16, 2015 13:41
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lorn Wayne posted:Does it come up on criminal record checks etc? Not sure. Depends on the extent of the check. You aren't convicted of a felony. You're just getting court ordered therapy.
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May 16, 2015 13:49
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All life is precious. So when someone kills a bunchof people, it's important to use it as a teachable moment- turning a person with terrible messed up brains into a different kind of terrible messed up brains.
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May 16, 2015 13:57
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Frackie Robinson posted:Where did this come from? The justice system is about punishment, because you can't have laws without consequences. Maybe some of the consequences are too harsh, but it's never in human history truly been about rehabilitation. lol the justice system is often loving wrong
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May 16, 2015 14:01
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Frackie Robinson posted:What other kind of justice is there? jesus loving christ mama mia here u go, locked and hidden deeply within the sealed archives of wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_criminal_justice basement jihadist fucked around with this message at 14:08 on May 16, 2015 |
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May 16, 2015 14:03
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FuturePastNow posted:I think we shouldn't use the death penalty except in cases where someone killed lots of people and there's no doubt about their guilt or sanity. so if there's doubt about someone's guilt or insanity it's okay to convict and imprison them, just make sure they stay alive unless you sentence them to life without parole in which case welp
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May 16, 2015 14:10
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It's good to keep brutal sick murderers alive, because some of the best comic books involve a bad guy fighting with the good guys for a while, and the bad guys always have really slick powers.
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May 16, 2015 14:35
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If we can somehow turn him, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's powers could be our own. Imagine the sick ownage we could do on ISIL with some of his pressure cooker bombs?
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May 16, 2015 14:37
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He doesn't deserve death since he did us all a favor by ridding us of a few Bostonians. He deserves FREEDOM!
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May 16, 2015 14:44
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the sooner he dies the sooner people can profit from selling shirts that have his dreamy hunky face on them so ironic teenagers can feel snarky
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May 16, 2015 14:45
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Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:If we can somehow turn him, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's powers could be our own. Imagine the sick ownage we could do on ISIL with some of his pressure cooker bombs? You do realise that they aren't really gonna kill him, right? The next ten years will be spent training him into a living weapon. Then on the day of his execution there will be a big show with all the victims brought in to see him die then the curtain closes and Agent Tsarnaev (Callsign: Pressure-Cooker) will be put on the first flight to Donetsk to show Ivan that taking the Crimea wasn't the best idea.
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May 16, 2015 14:49
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I understand the death penalty in countries where "life in prison" means no more than 18 years. I'll put a hundred bucks towards that breivik is released during the next decade, as in before 2029.
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May 16, 2015 14:49
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Frackie Robinson posted:What other kind of justice is there?
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May 16, 2015 14:53
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Killing is wrong, so we're going to put you to death for your crimes. 
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May 16, 2015 14:54
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death is good. to die is highly desirable
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May 16, 2015 14:55
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He should be drawn and quartered. As should anyone who does a terrorist attack against God's America.
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May 16, 2015 14:56
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Killing is so wrong that if you do it, you don't deserve to live.
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May 16, 2015 14:58
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Sometimes I agree with the death penalty and other times I don't.
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May 16, 2015 15:02
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Has there been a reaction from his crazy tween fan club?
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May 16, 2015 15:05
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Does he have one unironically?
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May 16, 2015 15:09
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Lil Bit O Vitriol posted:You do realise that they aren't really gonna kill him, right? The next ten years will be spent training him into a living weapon. Then on the day of his execution there will be a big show with all the victims brought in to see him die then the curtain closes and Agent Tsarnaev (Callsign: Pressure-Cooker) will be put on the first flight to Donetsk to show Ivan that taking the Crimea wasn't the best idea. A stark, Fincher-esque lock down tracking shot shows Putin milling about his Moscow highrise penthouse. He paces on his cell phone "Da! Da!...Nyet!....Da! hhahhahaha" while stopping momentarily to pick food off the plate on the dining room table. He pauses and looks over- where did that pressure cooker come fro- edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMV-rWaU-c
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May 16, 2015 15:16
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carrion kit posted:it sets a terrible example, allows for innocent people to be put to death, costs more money and doesn't work to curb crime. but the city was traumatized by his actions and this was a knee jerk reaction, hopefully an appeal will save his life. it's incredibly precious, all human lives. i know that deep down he's a sweet boy who made some bad choices i know he regrets.
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May 16, 2015 15:55
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Boxing's boring we need something for ppv.
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May 16, 2015 16:04
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Volume posted:Lethal injection seems too peaceful. Can we drop him into a cage full of hungry tigers? This, but with hippos instead of tigers.
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May 16, 2015 16:04
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killing is only acceptable in self-defense so really if we can defend society from someone without killing them we should do that instead. to do otherwise is barbaric and immoral, hth.
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May 16, 2015 16:09
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As a secular humanist...
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May 16, 2015 16:16
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jarofpiss posted:killing is only acceptable in self-defense so really if we can defend society from someone without killing them we should do that instead. to do otherwise is barbaric and immoral, hth. I disagree, in principle there are totally people who we are better off without allowing them to draw breath, this guy is almost certainly one such example the problem though is that we have no method of arbitrating guilt and selecting punishment that is reliable and accurate enough to make such decisions without an unacceptable loss of innocent life, so in practise the death penalty is barbaric and immoral
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May 16, 2015 16:20
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I think the death penalty is barbaric and nothing but vengeance writ law. This is why I'd prefer life in a cage because if you think about it, it actually
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May 16, 2015 16:30
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The problem is that with the death penalty is that someone has to pull the trigger (or syringe). No one should ever have that responsibility.
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May 16, 2015 17:12
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they could easily have robots do that now. do they not?
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May 16, 2015 17:18
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Egbert Souse posted:The problem is that with the death penalty is that someone has to pull the trigger (or syringe). No one should ever have that responsibility. that is not the problem at all, actually. killing people is not a trauma people are incapable of withstanding and in the right context it's pretty mundane. the problem is definitely that there is no objective standard for determining guilt or culpability so innocent people will get executed and guilty people will get executed or spared based on completely arbitrary factors.
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May 16, 2015 17:18
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Egbert Souse posted:The problem is that with the death penalty is that someone has to pull the trigger (or syringe). No one should ever have that responsibility.  *Pop* Too bad he didn't twitch.
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May 16, 2015 17:41
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Terrorists keep killing liberals, and Cons want to avenge them lol
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May 16, 2015 17:45
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he should have been kept in a soundproof cushioned white room, in a straitjacket, strapped to a bed and kept alive by IV drip for the rest of his life loving unimaginative jury full of pussies
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May 16, 2015 17:47
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I am not sure why so many people here have a problem with the death penalty. The death penalty is basically the life penalty, but shorter.
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Chonchon posted:he should have been kept in a soundproof cushioned white room, in a straitjacket, strapped to a bed and kept alive by IV drip for the rest of his life what about da pee & poop
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