2015 Best Ever Season

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rare Magic card l00k: Jan 3, 2011

Round Robin, duh.

# ? May 30, 2015 21:07

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# ? Apr 27, 2024 01:56

sirtommygunn: Mar 7, 2013

Since nobody else came in to do it I'll be a dumbass and say 2010 Jets, run heavy because I don't actually know anything about football before 2009.

# ? May 31, 2015 02:06

fartknocker: Oct 28, 2012; Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.; Wedge Regret

Since you only need two more teams, I'll just throw these in for the hell of it: 1995 Lions, Pass Heavy, and 1990 Eagles, Balanced.

# ? Jun 1, 2015 23:25

FeedingHam2Cats: Nov 10, 2009

sirtommygunn posted:

Since nobody else came in to do it I'll be a dumbass and say 2010 Jets, run heavy because I don't actually know anything about football before 2009.

1998 Jets, Balanced

# ? Jun 1, 2015 23:33

Shangri-Law School: Feb 19, 2013

2014 Lions could be interesting, considering that Megatron was hobbled and the simulation presumably won't do that.

# ? Jun 1, 2015 23:36

fartknocker: Oct 28, 2012; Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.; Wedge Regret

Cruel and Unusual posted:

2014 Lions could be interesting, considering that Megatron was hobbled and the simulation presumably won't do that.

Actually, I think it does take into account statistics from the season in question as some indicator of performance. For example, I would have suggested the 1991 Eagles, which had a much better defense than 1990, if it were possible to include a normal and healthy Randall Cunningham. However, since he blew out his knee early in the first game, he has no real stats on WhatIfSports, so anytime you simulate a game using him as the starter for that team, he'll basically last no more than 10-ish passes (And seemingly no runs) and whomever you set as the backup comes in, even if you set him for all three spots on the depth chart. So I went with the 1990 Eagles, cause you may get a chance of QB Eagles showing up. :thurman:

What that means for the 2014 Lions though is that Johnson may be more erratic than if you picked a different team with him.

However, you are the Lions fan, so I'll defer the choice to you.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 00:13

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Great White Hope posted:

Round Robin, duh.

Do this, it's a good idea.

fartknocker posted:

Actually, I think it does take into account statistics from the season in question as some indicator of performance. For example, I would have suggested the 1991 Eagles, which had a much better defense than 1990, if it were possible to include a normal and healthy Randall Cunningham. However, since he blew out his knee early in the first game, he has no real stats on WhatIfSports, so anytime you simulate a game using him as the starter for that team, he'll basically last no more than 10-ish passes (And seemingly no runs) and whomever you set as the backup comes in, even if you set him for all three spots on the depth chart. So I went with the 1990 Eagles, cause you may get a chance of QB Eagles showing up. What that means for the 2014 Lions though is that Johnson may be more erratic than if you picked a different team with him.

However, you are the Lions fan, so I'll defer the choice to you.

So if a player misses a year in real life, it doesn't extrapolate from past/future seasons? I've never messed with What If Sports, so I'm not totally sure how it works.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 00:40

D-LINK: Oct 1, 2007; I was talking to peachy Peach about kissy Kiss. He bought me a soda.

2008 Steelers, balanced

I'd like to see 1976 Steelers vs 1967 Packers

# ? Jun 2, 2015 01:41

fartknocker: Oct 28, 2012; Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.; Wedge Regret

old dog child posted:

So if a player misses a year in real life, it doesn't extrapolate from past/future seasons? I've never messed with What If Sports, so I'm not totally sure how it works.

That's what I gathered from fooling around with it using those 1991 Eagles. I did it a dozen times, using different offensive approaches, and Cunningham was at best had around 10 pass attempts, often completing maybe a third of them, and almost never had any rushing attempts at all. As a reminder, his stats for that season were 1 completion on 4 attempts for 19 yards with no rushing attempts, since he was hurt so quickly.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 02:24

SlipUp: Sep 30, 2006; stayin c o o l

Is it too late to change the 58 baltimore colts to balanced instead of pass favour? It's probably more accurate.

Also, pretty stoked on this 58 vs 11 match up. Should be interesting!

# ? Jun 2, 2015 02:38

Grittybeard: Mar 29, 2010; Bad, very bad!

fartknocker posted:

That's what I gathered from fooling around with it using those 1991 Eagles. I did it a dozen times, using different offensive approaches, and Cunningham was at best had around 10 pass attempts, often completing maybe a third of them, and almost never had any rushing attempts at all. As a reminder, his stats for that season were 1 completion on 4 attempts for 19 yards with no rushing attempts, since he was hurt so quickly.

It can't work like that can it? Take the '69 Chiefs, are they going to be using half a season's worth of stats for Len Dawson? Or does he get Mike Livingston's stats thrown in there as if they were the same player?

Oh wait I see, it might be using the rate stats for that season which would make a little more sense (and still be dumb as hell). But I gues it'd only be really disastrous in a case like QB Eagles where he got hurt immediately.

e: We should see if we can game it somehow, who's someone who started off a season super hot and then tore an ACL or something after a game?

# ? Jun 2, 2015 03:06

fartknocker: Oct 28, 2012; Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.; Wedge Regret

Grittybeard posted:

e: We should see if we can game it somehow, who's someone who started off a season super hot and then tore an ACL or something after a game?

Purely for shenanigans, and I was bored, I tried putting the 2011 Packers, with Matt "6 TD" Flynn against the only other example I could think of off hand, the 1970 Bears with Bobby Douglass (Who had 4 TDs on opening day with a broken hand or something and missed the rest of the year). Almost every attempt ended up with them not doing much, and having the QB's who played the majority of the season wind up taking snaps (If not the majority). I then tweaked it so they would be the only QB's on their depth charts, and the backups would still get in at times. One game had Matt Flynn go 9 of 40 with 2 picks. Another 3 for 29. And probably another five or six with single digit completions on several dozen attempts. Douglass never had more than one TD, more games than not with zero, and more still where another QB came in. There was also a 28-21 game where every TD was defensive...

So, if there is a way to game this thing, I'll leave it to someone else to figure out exactly how to do it.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 04:37

Cavauro: Jan 9, 2008

fartknocker posted:

the 1988 Bengals, ... Run Heavy

Yeah, that's fine.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 05:44

nrr: Jan 2, 2007

fartknocker posted:

Since you only need two more teams, I'll just throw these in for the hell of it: 1995 Lions, Pass Heavy, and 1990 Eagles, Balanced.

I'd probably go for 2004 Eagles as much as I love Randall Cunningham, because that defense + :mcnabb:

and TO, and I'm guessing the sim doesn't take tantrums or phantom puking into account.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 05:46

riht: Dec 13, 2004; i knew u were trouble when u tossed int

I love that Billy Cundiff was 0/1 on FGs.

Also :lol:

at Rodney Bradley blowing up. Apparently he was only ever a PS guy before being cut.

riht fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Jun 2, 2015

# ? Jun 2, 2015 06:10

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

nrr posted:

I'd probably go for 2004 Eagles as much as I love Randall Cunningham, because that defense + and TO, and I'm guessing the sim doesn't take tantrums or phantom puking into account.

Sir that wasn't phantom puking Brady clearly put something on the balls to make mcnabb puke

# ? Jun 2, 2015 06:52

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Is it too late for me to argue that the 2009 Vikings might have been better than the 1998 Vikings?

# ? Jun 2, 2015 14:32

FeedingHam2Cats: Nov 10, 2009

SlipUp posted:

Is it too late to change the 58 baltimore colts to balanced instead of pass favour? It's probably more accurate.

Also, pretty stoked on this 58 vs 11 match up. Should be interesting!

It already happened. '11 won 21-16

riht posted:

I love that Billy Cundiff was 0/1 on FGs.

Also at Rodney Bradley blowing up. Apparently he was only ever a PS guy before being cut.

He's ridiculous in every simulation of the 2011 team so clearly he's secretly amazing

FeedingHam2Cats fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jun 2, 2015

# ? Jun 2, 2015 14:58

Silly Burrito: Nov 27, 2007; SET A COURSE FOR
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IcePhoenix posted:

Is it too late for me to argue that the 2009 Vikings might have been better than the 1998 Vikings?

It's a legit argument, IMO. That was a pretty good team. Plus it would give us the chance to simulate Farve vs. Farve since we potentially have Kurt Warner vs. Kurt Warner and Peyton vs. Peyton already.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 16:30

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Silly Burrito posted:

It's a legit argument, IMO. That was a pretty good team. Plus it would give us the chance to simulate Farve vs. Farve since we potentially have Kurt Warner vs. Kurt Warner and Peyton vs. Peyton already.

They'll all fall to McNair anyways

# ? Jun 2, 2015 17:12

axeil: Feb 14, 2006

Eagles should be the 2004 Eagles and be pass-heavy as I see you don't have them yet in your list.

edit: Or 1990 Eagles based on the "healthy QB Eagles" stuff we've been discussing. Maybe have them do a play-in game?

Also what are everyone's thoughts on doing the same, only using the worst version of your team? I wanna see if the 0-16 Lions or 0-14 Buccs really are the worst teams ever. :colbert:

axeil fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jun 2, 2015

# ? Jun 2, 2015 17:15

Silly Burrito: Nov 27, 2007; SET A COURSE FOR
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axeil posted:

Eagles should be the 2004 Eagles and be pass-heavy as I see you don't have them yet in your list.

edit: Or 1990 Eagles based on the "healthy QB Eagles" stuff we've been discussing. Maybe have them do a play-in game?

Also what are everyone's thoughts on doing the same, only using the worst version of your team? I wanna see if the 0-16 Lions or 0-14 Buccs really are the worst teams ever.

I'd have to simulate a season with every Saints team before the mid 80s just to give you an answer on which team to use.

Although one of the Billy Joe teams should be thrown in there too.

# ? Jun 2, 2015 20:27

FeedingHam2Cats: Nov 10, 2009

axeil posted:

Eagles should be the 2004 Eagles and be pass-heavy as I see you don't have them yet in your list.

edit: Or 1990 Eagles based on the "healthy QB Eagles" stuff we've been discussing. Maybe have them do a play-in game?

Also what are everyone's thoughts on doing the same, only using the worst version of your team? I wanna see if the 0-16 Lions or 0-14 Buccs really are the worst teams ever.

The Buccs were worse. Like a lot worse

# ? Jun 3, 2015 15:27

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Ok I'm gonna finalize the teams and Sim week 1 tonight.

PS I'm gonna use the 2015 Schedule.

# ? Jun 4, 2015 17:30

Thaddius the Large: Jul 5, 2006; It's in the five-hole!

IcePhoenix posted:

Is it too late for me to argue that the 2009 Vikings might have been better than the 1998 Vikings?

The wide receivers definitely aren't as talented, but I prefer Farve and AP, and that defensive line was pretty fun too.

# ? Jun 4, 2015 17:37

IcePhoenix: Sep 18, 2005; Take me to your Shida

Thaddius the Large posted:

The wide receivers definitely aren't as talented, but I prefer Farve and AP, and that defensive line was pretty fun too.

Yeah I think the defense was just better all around, plus the offense was still awesome when you throw Harvin in the mix too.

# ? Jun 4, 2015 18:52

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

axeil posted:

Eagles should be the 2004 Eagles and be pass-heavy as I see you don't have them yet in your list.

edit: Or 1990 Eagles based on the "healthy QB Eagles" stuff we've been discussing. Maybe have them do a play-in game?

1990 Eagles win

IcePhoenix posted:

Is it too late for me to argue that the 2009 Vikings might have been better than the 1998 Vikings?

1998 wins on a last second field goal. Oh the irony.

quote:

Browns Round Robin

1950 vs 1964: 64 wins 23-7
1950 vs 1986: 86 wins 15-10
1950 vs 2007: 07 wins 21-17
1964 vs 1986: 64 wins 27-17
1964 vs 2007: 07 wins 24-21
1986 vs 2007: 07 wins 26-3

2007: 3-0
1964: 2-1
1986: 1-2
1950: 0-3

2007, your best Browns team ever

# ? Jun 6, 2015 03:24

FeedingHam2Cats: Nov 10, 2009

Ross Angeles posted:

2007, your best Browns team ever

I'm liking this already

# ? Jun 6, 2015 03:28

Flikken: Oct 23, 2009; 10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

Ross Angeles posted:

1990 Eagles win

1998 wins on a last second field goal. Oh the irony.

1950 vs 1964: 64 wins 23-7
1950 vs 1986: 86 wins 15-10
1950 vs 2007: 07 wins 21-17
1964 vs 1986: 64 wins 27-17
1964 vs 2007: 07 wins 24-21
1986 vs 2007: 07 wins 26-3

2007: 3-0
1964: 2-1
1986: 1-2
1950: 0-3

2007, your best Browns team ever

booooo only one Hall of Famer on that team

# ? Jun 6, 2015 03:31

nrr: Jan 2, 2007

Ross Angeles posted:

1990 Eagles win

lol 5 field goals

Cunningham goes 21 from 25 and somehow they go 5 from 12 on 3rd down?

# ? Jun 6, 2015 03:41

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

WEEK ONE

Pittsburgh at New England New England wins, 16-10 in OT
Green Bay at Chicago Chicago wins, 37-11
Kansas City at Houston Houston wins, 27-6
Cleveland at New York Jets Jets win, 24-3
Indianapolis at Buffalo Indianapolis wins, 30-24 in OT
Miami at Washington Dolphins win, 23-17
Carolina at Jacksonville Carolina wins, 16-0
Seattle at St. Louis St. Louis wins, 27-3
Detroit at San Diego San Diego wins, 23-17
New Orleans at Arizona Arizona wins, 30-27
Tennessee at Tampa Bay Tampa wins, 17-9
Cincinnati at Oakland Cincinnati wins, 24-7
Baltimore at Denver Baltimore wins, 27-16
New York Giants at Dallas Giants win, 28-27
Philadelphia at Atlanta Philadelphia wins, 23-20 in OT
Minnesota at San Francisco San Francisco wins, 28-14

STANDINGS:

New England: 1-0, 0-0
New York: 1-0, 0-0
Miami: 1-0, 0-0
Buffalo: 0-1, 0-0

Cincinnati: 1-0, 0-0
Baltimore: 1-0, 0-0
Cleveland: 0-1, 0-0
Pittsburgh: 0-1, 0-0

Houston: 1-0, 0-0
Indianapolis: 1-0, 0-0
Jacksonville: 0-1, 0-0
Tennessee: 0-1, 0-0

San Diego: 1-0, 0-0
Denver: 0-1, 0-0
Oakland: 0-1, 0-0
Kansas City: 0-1, 0-0

New York: 1-0, 1-0
Philadelphia, 1-0, 0-0
Washington, 0-1, 0-0
Dallas: 0-1, 0-1

Chicago: 1-0, 1-0
Minnesota: 0-1, 0-0
Detroit: 0-1, 0-0
Green Bay: 0-1, 0-1

Tampa Bay: 1-0, 0-0
Carolina: 1-0, 0-0
New Orleans: 0-1, 0-0
Atlanta: 0-1, 0-0

St. Louis: 1-0, 1-0
San Francisco: 1-0, 0-0
Arizona: 1-0, 0-0
Seattle: 0-1, 0-1

# ? Jun 6, 2015 04:07

Metapod: Mar 18, 2012

Tampa shut Air McNair down

# ? Jun 6, 2015 04:18

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

you loving suck, Peyton. 250 yards and no touch downs???

# ? Jun 6, 2015 04:43

Fenrir: Apr 26, 2005; I found my kendo stick, bitch!; Lipstick Apathy

adaz posted:

Yeah it had Edgar Bennet & Dorsey Levens, with the great William Henderson lead blocking. Good for 1500 yards rushing.

Yep. As much as I liked the 2010-2011 Packers, the 96 team is still the best, and that's just one more part of why.

e: wtf, 1996 Favre did not go 4/18 or even anywhere near that, what the hell.

Fenrir fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jun 6, 2015

# ? Jun 6, 2015 05:01

Blowjob Overtime: Apr 6, 2008; Steeeeriiiiiiiiike twooooooo!

Should've gone 2009 Vikings. drat.

# ? Jun 6, 2015 05:11

Thaddius the Large: Jul 5, 2006; It's in the five-hole!

DrKennethNoisewater posted:

Should've gone 2009 Vikings. drat.

This sim's having '98 win on a field goal made my eye twitch so drat hard. Like, it's so fitting I'm both laughing and crushing whatever's in my hand, I'm turning into Commissioner Dreyfus here.

# ? Jun 6, 2015 05:55