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EvanTH posted:hawks Al Horford is pretty good
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May 19, 2015 22:06
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Horford was 1.3 or whatever I can't remember.
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May 19, 2015 22:06
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euphronius posted:He was 1.11 in a historically awful draft. could of had adams
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May 19, 2015 22:06
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Sorry, I am hella dumb and still don't really understand how the odds work. Why can the thunder be either 1-3 or most likely 14th and nothing in between?
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May 19, 2015 22:07
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Artic Puma posted:Sorry, I am hella dumb and still don't really understand how the odds work. Why can the thunder be either 1-3 or most likely 14th and nothing in between? Every team in the lottery has a chance of jumping into the top three, and as the last team in the lottery OKC can't slip any lower.
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May 19, 2015 22:07
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hawks from best boy to worst boy: Horford: 1.3 Sefolosha 1.13 Schroder: 1.17 Millsap: 1.17 Teague 1.19 Carroll 1.27 Korver 2.22 their highest pick is Elton Brand (edit for joke clarity: who was the number one pick in '99 and played < 500 minutes this year) EvanTH fucked around with this message at 22:11 on May 19, 2015 |
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May 19, 2015 22:08
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morestuff posted:Every team in the lottery has a chance of jumping into the top three, and as the last team in the lottery OKC can't slip any lower. So you can only move up into the top 3, stay in the same place, or move down if someone behind you moves into the top three?
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May 19, 2015 22:10
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euphronius posted:Horford was 1.3 or whatever I can't remember. I sorta don't know what we're talking about since I didn't really understand the guy's original point. GSW has a bunch of players they drafted and Schroder rules but a good championship team is always built vulture-picked from the dying bones of tanking teams (Iguodala, JR Smith, Shumpert, Prigioni for some fun examples)
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May 19, 2015 22:10
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Artic Puma posted:So you can only move up into the top 3, stay in the same place, or move down if someone behind you moves into the top three? Yep.
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May 19, 2015 22:10
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FrankeeFrankFrank posted:I guess I can agree with that, but when do they decide they want to start trying to win? There's one LeBron, to build a team around... and after that 2 or 3 teams with a "BIG 3" that can compete. After that you have to build like the Spurs or Golden State... or do crazy good in the draft like the Thunder, but that's alot of luck. Arguing against this post here
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May 19, 2015 22:12
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Artic Puma posted:Sorry, I am hella dumb and still don't really understand how the odds work. Why can the thunder be either 1-3 or most likely 14th and nothing in between? The only picks that you draw for are 1, 2, and 3 in that order. After that, 4-14 are slotted based on record in the regular season among non-playoff teams. Since the Thunder had the best record of teams missing the playoffs, if they don't get 1, 2, or 3, then they end up at 14. The opposite is true for the Timberwolves, because they had the worst record, so if they don't get any picks in the top three then they have to be fourth. Teams in the middle have more "options" because they can move up by having their numbers drawn or move down because teams behind them could jump up.
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May 19, 2015 22:12
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morestuff posted:Yep. Okay, thanks. I get it now. Before I thought it was like an actual total lottery where each team got whatever spot they got pulled at and the bad teams just had more chances to be pulled.
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May 19, 2015 22:13
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edit: efb
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May 19, 2015 22:13
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The Sixers haven't found a superstar or a collection of stars, so there is no reason for them to start building the roster to win.
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May 19, 2015 22:13
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euphronius posted:GSW Barnes was actually 1.7 in his draft, but I think counting Bogut and Iguodala is disingenuous since they were drafted by other teams and are pretty far removed from those situations now.
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May 19, 2015 22:14
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FrankeeFrankFrank posted:I guess I can agree with that, but when do they decide they want to start trying to win? There's one LeBron, to build a team around... and after that 2 or 3 teams with a "BIG 3" that can compete. After that you have to build like the Spurs or Golden State... or do crazy good in the draft like the Thunder, but that's alot of luck. have you seen mcw play?
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May 19, 2015 22:15
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Remember Bogut before his arm injuries? He was a really good scorer at the basket and had a solid midrange jumper.
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May 19, 2015 22:19
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euphronius posted:Arguing against this post here Ohh okay. Yeah his point didn't make much sense and he thinks MCW is gooder than he is. But the Hawks do mean there is one team left that isn't organized around 1-10 draft picks and I can't think of a single team since the '98 champion Scottie Pippen Bulls (5th pick) to do that, but I guess they also had that one guy um Ron Harper 8th pick
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May 19, 2015 22:22
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The Sixers seem to be operating under the plan that you need a star or two to contend in this league. That your primary goal should be acquiring assets that can eventually get you that star. MCW was not going to be a star in the league so they traded him for an asset that could potentially be a star. It's just a cold numbers game for them. Do whatever it takes to increase your odds of landing star players.
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May 19, 2015 22:24
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The Philadelphia's tanking brings up a strange gap in perception. Bad teams gently caress up year after year, they trade more for less, they fail to develop players, they don't pay for effective training staffs, but a team decides to skip a decade of misery to try and build a good team for their fans and they're the problem. I'll take short awful over long miserable. Reporters and people in the league are happy to make excuses, because it's great to have incompetent competition. People are upset about Philadelphia because they're demonstrating that they understand the asset side of basketball and that marks them as a future threat. It's true even if euphronious can't read.
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May 19, 2015 22:30
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Byron Scott is going to gently caress up picking a goddamn ping pong ball, somehow. I feel it in my bones.
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May 19, 2015 22:30
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Sixers please win and trade Noel or Embiid to the Celtics for more picks.
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May 19, 2015 22:32
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Inside Outside posted:Sixers please win and trade Noel or Embiid to the Celtics for more picks. If yall want to trade Noel, I'll hand you a first, all of our seconds for the foreseeable future and an expiring contract or two for him. We have this Joakim Noah, and Kirk Hinrich. Hell If Kirk gets traded to the Sixers he might just screw around and opt out of his player option. Dexo fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 19, 2015 |
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May 19, 2015 22:34
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Make me happy for once. Anything in the top 4 will suffice.
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May 19, 2015 22:36
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I don't know what will happen tonight but all I know is that whatever happens, I'm most likely going to be calling for evidence of the balls being dropped. Silver's balls.
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May 19, 2015 22:37
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If Silver comes out with a David Stern lovely wall street beard, we know the thing's been rigged. You can also count the veins in his face to detect evidence of foul play
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May 19, 2015 22:38
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Genuinely hoping for 3 and 6 tonight, unlikely as it is.
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May 19, 2015 22:38
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Hinkie is going to draft BPA guys 
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May 19, 2015 22:40
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chunkles posted:Hinkie is going to draft BPA guys yeah, Hezonja
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May 19, 2015 22:42
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WhyteRyce posted:Yeah it could be rigged if you believe all the checks are compromised and kind of blur your eyes when looking at motivation. But you could say that about anything. Accounting firms have been compromised but trying to compare Enron style auditing frauds to fixing a draft lottery is a bit much. If a company was going to take the risk blowing up their reputation then it should be over something huge that is making people a ton of money under the table. Same for the league, if they are going to risk the legitimacy of their multi-billion dollar sport you'd think they'd do it over making sure Cleveland has it's upteenth chance to unfuck things up? You are right. The idea of them fixing it for Cleveland is very hilarious and only works if you think this is more fixed than even the WWE.
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May 19, 2015 22:45
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Dejan Bimble posted:If Silver comes out with a David Stern lovely wall street beard, we know the thing's been rigged. You can also count the veins in his face to detect evidence of foul play The Knicks should have trolled everyone and had Stern be their draft representative.
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May 19, 2015 22:45
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I have my lakers guy gif cocked and loaded and pointed at this thread when we get #1
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May 19, 2015 22:46
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euphronius posted:Also LOL the Spurs are built around a 1.1! Everyone in the semifinals this year is built around high (top 10) draft picks except really Memphis but Marc Gasol is a strange case that would not happen again. Marc Gasol was a guy who thought he was gonna be a star, so he never worked hard, got a big wakeup call when he fell to the second round, and immediately put in the work to become a star. Seriously, those 30 pounds of baby fat probably cost him a lottery pick
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May 19, 2015 22:56
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tatankatonk posted:I have my lakers guy gif cocked and loaded and pointed at this thread when we get #1 post it regardless of laker draft position
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May 19, 2015 23:12
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only 2 number one picks have ever won championships with the team that they were drafted with
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May 19, 2015 23:15
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straight up brolic posted:only 2 number one picks have ever won championships with the team that they were drafted with Duncan and Hakeem?
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May 19, 2015 23:16
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Metapod posted:post it regardless of laker draft position 
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May 19, 2015 23:20
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straight up brolic posted:only 2 number one picks have ever won championships with the team that they were drafted with bill walton magic david robinson tim duncan hakeem
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May 19, 2015 23:20
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I like that bit about Durant leaving as a free agent. I'm pretty sure he is going to really enjoy living in the Bay Area.
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straight up brolic posted:only 2 number one picks have ever won championships with the team that they were drafted with kareem?
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