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Kurtofan posted:I'm surprised Bane's guys didn't come back (as far as I know) because they seem interesting, wouldn't be surprised if they croaked before this is over tho. Were Bane's henchmen ever used again in any story arc? I enjoyed today's Batman for the one and done structure built around a bigger arc. Also loving Jim's attitude towards the whole thing. No idea how I feel about the ending though Kind of hoping it's a cop out and really some actor or something hired by the Wayne estate or whatnot there to keep up appearances. Or maybe even Hush.
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What's the difference between Batman and Detective Comics? They all look like Batman comics to me.
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Kurtofan posted:What's the difference between Batman and Detective Comics? They all look like Batman comics to me. Currently, it looks like Detective is focusing more on the Gotham PD side of things, but a new writer (or current writer!) could change it up and focus on Man-Bat or some poo poo, who knows. Detective was historically first of course, and Batman (as a comic) was created so there could be another Batman comic to rake in big bucks (and well, Bats has name recognition). redbackground fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jul 8, 2015 |
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Jul 8, 2015 21:03
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It's really just a way to get multiple creative teams writing Batman. Same with 'Action Comics' and 'Superman'.
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Jul 8, 2015 23:11
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redbackground posted:Amygdala sticks around for a bunch of Nightwing's solo series, I believe. The Tally Man always seemed like he was supposed to be a bigger deal than he actually was. I think Film Freak showed up in Will Pfeiffer's Catwoman. If I've got the right guy, he was a master planner, not a physical threat like Bane.
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I thought Film Freak was the one Jean Paul killed when he finally Went Too Far in his career as Batman.
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Travis343 posted:I thought Film Freak was the one Jean Paul killed when he finally Went Too Far in his career as Batman. Abattoir. Madkal fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Jul 9, 2015 |
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Jul 9, 2015 02:24
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Ah. No big loss either way.
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Jul 9, 2015 03:09
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"going too far" is of course Valley killing an insane mass murderer. Gotta love Bruce's ethics.
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Jul 9, 2015 03:29
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Teenage Fansub posted:It's really just a way to get multiple creative teams writing Batman. Same with 'Action Comics' and 'Superman'. Also, Detective Comics is good again (at least, I think so) since Manapul and Bucallato took over.
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Drifter posted:"going too far" is of course Valley killing an insane mass murderer. Gotta love Bruce's ethics. Batman, either through action or inaction, doesn't kill.
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Dsmif posted:Batman, either through action or inaction, doesn't kill. He did in Batman Begins with R'as. By him not killing or putting down immediately these killers he's letting innocents die. Valley was a crazy dick, but he had a point. Punisher and Moon Knight know what's up. Besides all Jean-Paul did was not help up the dude while he was hanging from chains, letting him fall. He didn't stab him in the face or anything. edit: this is an amazing bit of history.  quote:Abattoir returned as a ghost (during a brief period of increased supernatural activity, worldwide), to torment the original Batman (Bruce Wayne) using Valley's Batman-armor, but Batman proved much less susceptible to psychological assault than his substitute. Batman tricked Abbatoir's ghost into abandoning the armor and his mission. (The ghost was attempting to cause his [Bruce's] last remaining blood relative, a pregnant cousin, to miscarry and then he would possess the infant.) Drifter fucked around with this message at 03:43 on Jul 9, 2015 |
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Jul 9, 2015 03:38
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Drifter posted:He did in Batman Begins with R'as. What happens in the movies doesn't have any impact on the comics. Batman doesn't kill because he doesn't have the right. Stopping crooks in the middle of committing a crime, or catching them afterwards is already outside the law, but Gordon and the like support him because he is basically operating as a super cop and handling crimes they cant. If he steps over that line and tries to start dishing out his own sentencing then that would be too much for Gordon to allow. Police officers don't have the right to execute criminals, punishment for crimes is handled by the justice system.
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Jul 9, 2015 04:09
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Goodbye Bat-Train we hardly knew ye. 
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Drifter posted:"going too far" is of course Valley killing an insane mass murderer. Gotta love Bruce's ethics. He hosed up because he had brain problems and someone being held hostage slowly died because of it. Morality doesn't even enter the picture, he had so many hosed up brain problems he couldn't be Batman. Do you know how bad off you have to be to be too crazy to be Batman?
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Boogaleeboo posted:He hosed up because he had brain problems and someone being held hostage slowly died because of it. Morality doesn't even enter the picture, he had so many hosed up brain problems he couldn't be Batman. Do you know how bad off you have to be to be too crazy to be Batman? He didn't know Abby had a list in his pockets. He only found out about it after the fact. With or without Jean-Paul that hostage was dead.
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He let Abbatoir die instead of capturing him and finding the name of the person who was set up to be killed. It was totally preventable if Jean Paul wasn't busy talking to ghosts. I'm really quite fond of Azbats. Issue after issue of people going "Holy poo poo! You're not Batman, you psychopath!"
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 You aren't supposed to side with AzBats. He was pretty much created to be extreme as possible to make people see that having Batman be as extreme as possible would be a bad idea
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Drifter posted:He didn't know Abby had a list in his pockets. He only found out about it after the fact. With or without Jean-Paul that hostage was dead. He didn't do everything he could to save the hostage and instead killed someone to satisfy his anger.
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Senor Candle posted:He didn't do everything he could to save the hostage and instead killed someone to satisfy his anger. I thought it was more he had two dissonant personalities in his head waging a war about what action to take. One wanted to kill the dude, the other wanted to save him. The only difference between Azbats and Batman was that they showed Az killing dudes on screen. Batman's just a really unreliable narrator. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byycwl8qgc
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Drifter posted:I thought it was more he had two dissonant personalities in his head waging a war about what action to take. One wanted to kill the dude, the other wanted to save him.
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Senor Candle posted:So you're saying that Batman actually kills a ton of people? Definitely. He's gaslighting us with his auto-biographical propaganda.
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Jul 9, 2015 18:59
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Andy Kubert will be providing the artwork for Frank Miller's The Dark Knight III:Master Race with inks by Klaus Jansen.
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Jul 9, 2015 19:10
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What a waste of good art.
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Drifter posted:He did in Batman Begins with R'as. In one of the Michael Keaton movies didn't he autopilot the batmobile to a factory, blow it open with a machine gun, take out a bunch of dudes, and then blowup the factory as it leaves? What I'm saying is that movie Bats doesn't give a gently caress. Also thanks to the person who posted the trade reading order site. It's not perfect but it at least helps to figure out an order. Also it reminds me how long some of these have been around. Iron Man had 2 pages on that site and Batman had like 9.
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Looking at the promos, do people recommend flashpoint? I heard that's the most recent "big event"?
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Nah. It transitioned the old DC universe to the 'New 52', but you don't need it. Watch the cartoon adaptation, if anything. It had a couple of good tie-ins. Read Flashpoint:Batman some time. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 9, 2015 23:39
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Yeah, I'd say the cartoon version of Flashpoint Paradox is probably better than reading the comics at this point.
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Kurtofan posted:Looking at the promos, do people recommend flashpoint?
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E: Disregard
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I want to buy a large size batman coffee table book. Don't have any specific content im after, just a oversized high quality batman book. Any recommendations?
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Norns posted:I want to buy a large size batman coffee table book. Don't have any specific content im after, just a oversized high quality batman book. If you're not concerned about price then any of the Absolutes fit the bill. Some are cheaper than others like Long Halloween.
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redbackground posted:Never. And the 52 books? Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Jul 10, 2015 08:02
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Kurtofan posted:And the 52 books?
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Doctor Spaceman posted:52 is possibly the best big event DC ever did. Thanks.
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Is 52 the same thing as the Injustice stuff?
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Drifter posted:Is 52 the same thing as the Injustice stuff? The video game?
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Kurtofan posted:The video game? The comic.
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'52' was the weekly series set in the regular DC universe in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/52_(comics) Kurtofan posted:Oh is that different from the new 52? Yup. 52 has just been the magic number of DC for a while. 52 issues in the weekly series, which ended in 52 Earths existing in the multiverse, the N52 relaunch had 52 comics, etc. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Oh is that different from the new 52?
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