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Coolie Ghost
Jan 16, 2013

sensible dissent dispenser
lmao more like blowam dongsky good job misreading a simple book and ruining psychology for 60 years

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TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

Fojar38 posted:

mm yes tu quoque is a very logical and thought out position on this current event and not at all constantly used by russian propaganda to deflect from putins actions in ukraine

I haven't read the actual context from which this quote was taken, but judging solely by this isolated quote he doesn't seem to be making a tu quoque argument at all and instead unambiguously condemning the annexation of crimea and then mentioning that the invasion of Iraq is a far worse crime as a corollary to the statement "It's not easy to find anything comparable in recent years"

you are a retard

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

Coolie Ghost posted:

lmao more like blowam dongsky good job misreading a simple book and ruining psychology for 60 years

go on

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
Russia's reasons for anneexxing crimea have nothing to do with anyone's best interests other than the state's.

take the moon
Feb 13, 2011

by sebmojo

Fojar38 posted:

This space guaranteed to be full of the stupidest poo poo you can imagine about history that I don't understand.

technically anything that happened more than a second ago is history

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

spectres of autism posted:

technically anything that happened more than a second ago is history

Technically the future is history

Bulgogi Hoagie
Jun 1, 2012

We

SHISHKABOB posted:

Technically the future is history

then you ain't in history BOOM

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

I haven't read the actual context from which this quote was taken, but judging solely by this isolated quote he doesn't seem to be making a tu quoque argument at all and instead unambiguously condemning the annexation of crimea and then mentioning that the invasion of Iraq is a far worse crime as a corollary to the statement "It's not easy to find anything comparable in recent years"

you are a retard

sure what russia did was bad... but what USA did 10 years ago was way badder so actually what russia did was totes cool, how does this not make sense 2 u?

Verily I Shat
May 24, 2015

by Smythe
More like Gnome Chompy, haha, Am i right or what

5-HT
Oct 17, 2012

he's alright. more a fan of his linguistic work, which isn't total poo poo.

Verily I Shat
May 24, 2015

by Smythe

5-HT posted:

he's alright. more a fan of his linguistic work, which isn't total poo poo.

No one really says this

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
mankind is yet to build an amplifier/speaker combo powerful enough for chomsky to not sound just a little too quiet when played through

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
that is why we still, collectively, don't "get" him, OP

hope this clears things up

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Jonad posted:

sure what russia did was bad... but what USA did 10 years ago was way badder so actually what russia did was totes cool, how does this not make sense 2 u?

that is a pretty unfair representation of the argument. this only works if the united states is not an involved actor in ukraine and is held to pretty much zero standards

Verily I Shat
May 24, 2015

by Smythe

TEAYCHES posted:

that is a pretty unfair representation of the argument. this only works if the united states is not an involved actor in ukraine and is held to pretty much zero standards

I love fiction too

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
'manufacturing consent' is spot-on though i highly recommend it

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice

Jim Barris posted:

Bin Laden isn't reading poo poo fojar he's fuckin DEAD

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

one cool way to imagine the ukraine crisis and natos encroachment upon russia, is to put into your mind a world where the soviets attempt to make a warsaw pact deal with mexico and imagine how the united states would react to that

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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pull up ths pull up

Kuato
Feb 25, 2005

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING"
Buglord

Jim Barris posted:

Bin Laden isn't reading poo poo fojar he's fuckin DEAD

Surprised there's no bin laden shirt like this, dog bless America

opus111
Jul 6, 2014

manufacturing consent is a good book.


i don't know anything about linguistics but I've heard loads of people scoff at it online in non-specific ways which makes me believe that his linguistic work is actually really good and people do it to sound smarter than they actually are.

opus111
Jul 6, 2014

TEAYCHES posted:

westerners literally cannot see anything other than "good guy" "bad guy" in any international confrontation. the current conflict in yemen is a really good example of that

i don't think this is limited to westerners. people aren't magically smarter once you go further afield than europe.

glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot
I don't know OP but I hear he's a cunning linguist

Hobohemian
Sep 30, 2005

by XyloJW

Kuato posted:

Surprised there's no bin laden shirt like this, dog bless America



Hitlerdog is acting pretty high and mighty.

Pox
Feb 16, 2015

Kuato posted:

Surprised there's no bin laden shirt like this, dog bless America



It's actually great, thank you.

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

opus111 posted:

i don't think this is limited to westerners. people aren't magically smarter once you go further afield than europe.

yea, you are right

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Kuato
Feb 25, 2005

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING"
Buglord

Lol

TacticalUrbanHomo
Aug 17, 2011

by Lowtax

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice


Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

Lichy posted:

he does but then everyone just looks silly in the russoukraine debate because westerners seem to be clinically unable to realise the fact that it's a struggle of one oligarchic group against another and not an epic battle of the Ukrainian people's against Russian oppression or some gay poo poo like that

My understanding is that one group of Ukrainian politicians will personally benefit if Ukraine stays in the Russian sphere of influence, while the other group of Ukrainian politicians will personally benefit if Ukraine moves towards the European Union's sphere of influence.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Lichy posted:

like, he wrote a load of political books

but what's he on about

cum personified

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Jonad posted:

sure what russia did was bad... but what USA did 10 years ago was way badder so actually what russia did was totes cool, how does this not make sense 2 u?

what John Wayne Gacy did was bad, but what hitler did was worse. More than 1 bad thing can happen

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

WILDTURKEY101
Mar 7, 2005

Look to your left. Look to your right. Only one of you is going to pass this course.
a thing must be either bad or good. it can't be neither or in the middle.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

WILDTURKEY101 posted:

a thing must be either bad or good. it can't be neither or in the middle.

Welcome to the Republican party.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

TEAYCHES posted:

one cool way to imagine the ukraine crisis and natos encroachment upon russia, is to put into your mind a world where the soviets attempt to make a warsaw pact deal with mexico and imagine how the united states would react to that

lol no

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002


lol ya

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Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

you're gay, which is a crime in russia

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