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Rutibex posted:people like firefly so much because it has lots of plot hooks and hints at better things to come. people can project whatever bullshit they imagine into the future of Firefly, and it will be inevitably better than whatever Weadon would have come up with Firefly is a lot less impressive when you realize joss whedon got a lot of inspiration from outlaw star the toad line isn't bad but when people did start to complain, his excuse was that halle berry didn't say the line right
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Gaunab posted:the toad line isn't bad but when people did start to complain, his excuse was that halle berry didn't say the line right somebody needs to get mrs berry a list of whedon one-liners so she can soulessly intone each and every one of them
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Twelve Batmans posted:Wasn't the destruction of the rainbow bridge supposed to be tragic because it meant Thor could never see Natalie Portman again? It was tragic because Thor could not meet all his dead dogs that were waiting for him there.
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Hector Beerlioz posted:It was tragic because Thor could not meet all his dead dogs that were waiting for him there. How does Thor get back and forth from Asgard these days? Loki mentions in The Avengers that it must have been expensive.
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Rutibex posted:people like firefly so much because it has lots of plot hooks and hints at better things to come. people can project whatever bullshit they imagine into the future of Firefly, and it will be inevitably better than whatever Weadon would have come up with Sure, but it gave us "Serenity" which is one of the best movies ever made. Haha, the entire thing is on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1GiYfhaW_g  Gaunab posted:Firefly is a lot less impressive when you realize joss whedon got a lot of inspiration from outlaw star Everything has inspiration from something else. That is how it works unless you have a mental illness. A lot of sci fi is based upon western themes. Pohl fucked around with this message at 21:51 on May 25, 2015 |
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never seen a lick of josh wheedon's stuff, but his fans are the worst. what's an example of his snarky dialogue so i can be more informed in my hate?
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Horniest Manticore posted:never seen a lick of josh wheedon's stuff, but his fans are the worst. what's an example of his snarky dialogue so i can be more informed in my hate? ypure a really tough vapmire... NOT!!
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Horniest Manticore posted:never seen a lick of josh wheedon's stuff, but his fans are the worst. what's an example of his snarky dialogue so i can be more informed in my hate? You want to run this ship? Yes. Well- you can't-
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redshirt posted:How does Thor get back and forth from Asgard these days? Loki mentions in The Avengers that it must have been expensive. They used some magic bullshit in Avengers 1. In 2 they apparently fixed it b/c it's totally doing that wormhole pattern on the bridge.
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Twelve Batmans posted:Avengers 1 was a nice action flick where the impetus of the film was bringing together the characters from their respective movies to pool their energies against a bigger threat. The rock was big enough to roll down the hill on its own and so the characters could do *whatever* in the mean time while the audience acknowledges that -eventually- the movie will end with "good guys team up to beat bad guys". And that's fine. It distracted me from a lot of the Whedonisms that plague his films (although as I've gotten older, my cynical half has made them a lot less bearable) like Iron Man's retarded speech to Loki and literally crammed in one liners: how loving retarded do you have to be to write a wall this huge of words whining about a comic book movie about supernatural heroes fighting a genius robot
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Twelve Batmans posted:Vision was cool. you shut your drat mouth, Vision was the worst thing about that movie
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Do it ironically posted:normal people will go to a movie with friends and enjoy it maybe go out for drinks after and have some laughs Look, movies are cultural icons worthy of such hefty critique. All movies.
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Pohl posted:A lot of sci fi is based upon western themes. Link to some evidence about this? I'm genuinely interested.
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Germstore posted:You want to run this ship? dang dogg that's snarky
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Gatekeeper posted:buffy owns you lousy suckn'gently caress
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Iredshirt posted:Every woman did not get turned into a Slayer. Just every Potential. I dig that the next season in Angel that actually becomes part of an episodes plot.
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redshirt posted:Are you watching Buffy/Angel episodes in order? yup, for the most part. i'm a little behind on the angel, its easy to just binge that buff. last angel i watched was either ken marino putting demon babies in cordelia or hawkeye being angel's old protege who he takes down criminal minds sperglord profiler style. the last buffy i watched was the faith two-parter. super good tv 
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Gaunab posted:the toad line isn't bad but when people did start to complain, his excuse was that halle berry didn't say the line right Whedon has a seriously bad habit of loving things up and then blaming literally everybody around him but himself for it.
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I've noticed that more and more goons are turning into hipsters that must vocally hate anything that is popular or successful. I'm hardly any kind of fanboy for just about anybody, but you'd have to be blind to see the more the popular opinion rises of something the more GBS wants to say how poo poo it is. It's not even "goons hate everything" because that's not true, they just hate things that are popular. Lots of threads loving Mad Max right now, but if they made a Mad Max 5, you'd see twice as many "That movie was pretty lame yall and everyone is stupid" threads instead. gnarlyhotep posted:have to agree with this I liked Firefly a lot and I think 13 episodes and a movie that's basically a series finale is preferable to it having "the bad seasons." If anything I've started liking shows with intentionally limited runs and small numbers of episodes anyway. Don't give them time to get lovely. Pirate Jet posted:Whedon has a seriously bad habit of loving things up and then blaming literally everybody around him but himself for it. I'd be more annoyed with him for Resurrection if it weren't a doomed project from the very start. They got the wrong director for the job, they had Weaver with her lovely, lovely ideas for the franchise (they should have gotten rid of her by Alien 3) and the power to demand them, and there was so much "studio picture" that, really, are your going to fault the writer too much? It's hardly great writing and probably is a legit low point for him but I really can't land that whole mess on any group outside of the producers. Honestly the whole movie would be way the gently caress better if Ripley wasn't in it at all Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 04:57 on May 26, 2015 |
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Pirate Jet posted:Whedon has a seriously bad habit of loving things up and then blaming literally everybody around him but himself for it. Yeah I unironically like his stuff but his attitude is definitely one of a dude who is in a bit of a bubble. And his hardcore fans-- the ones who don't just like his stuff but use is as a substitute for a life--are insufferable though. The dude is funny but his one-liners in a vacuum aren't why.
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it's ironic that black widow's big character twist that pissed everyone off was that she couldn't have kids. her character was lovely and boring because she was pregnant as poo poo during filming and couldn't play a superhero.
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you can tell that joss whedon has been told his whole career that he is a paragon example of a male feminist because whenever anyone says otherwise he flips his poo poo and it makes me laugh
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"Please like me. Please like me. Please like me." -- every loving whedon show/movie ever
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Pirate Jet posted:Whedon has a seriously bad habit of loving things up and then blaming literally everybody around him but himself for it. tbh if you're casting a role of a guy who turns out to be a surprise weird bad guy don't cast brad dourif, that at least makes sense however this is hilarious: quote:"It wasn't a question of doing everything differently, although they changed the ending; it was mostly a matter of doing everything wrong. They said the lines...mostly...but they said them all wrong. And they cast it wrong. And they designed it wrong. And they scored it wrong. They did everything wrong that they could possibly do. There's actually a fascinating lesson in filmmaking, because everything that they did reflects back to the script or looks like something from the script, and people assume that, if I hated it, then they’d changed the script...but it wasn’t so much that they’d changed the script; it’s that they just executed it in such a ghastly fashion as to render it almost unwatchable."
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joss whedon is a talentless hack (who used to be kinda decent i'll give him that), and i'm glad that he won't be doing much with the marvel universe anymore. he's a whiny piss baby who seems to have done nothing but complain since avengers 2 came out about how he didn't want daredevil to be a netflix series, how bucky was supposed to stay dead, that agents of shield isn't part of the marvel cinematic universe, etc. his fans have been sucking his dick for so long that when they finally started to realize that maybe he wasn't some manner of god he threw a tantrum and blamed everyone else for everything that he touched turning to poo poo.
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viking wolf corgi posted:joss whedon is a talentless hack (who used to be kinda decent i'll give him that), and i'm glad that he won't be doing much with the marvel universe anymore. he's a whiny piss baby who seems to have done nothing but complain since avengers 2 came out about how he didn't want daredevil to be a netflix series, how bucky was supposed to stay dead, that agents of shield isn't part of the marvel cinematic universe, etc. do you have a link for that?
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quote:JW: Okay, which was also mine, and that's the interesting thing. Everybody remembers that as the worst line ever written, but the thing about that is, it was supposed to be delivered as completely offhand. [Adopts casual, bored tone.] "You know what happens when a toad gets hit by lightning?" Then, after he gets electrocuted, "Ahhh, pretty much the same thing that happens to anything else." But Halle Berry said it like she was Desdemona. [Strident, ringing voice.] "The same thing that happens to everything eeelse!" That's the thing that makes you go crazy. At least "You're a dick" got delivered right. The worst thing about these things is that, when the actors say it wrong, it makes the writer look stupid. People assume that the line... I listened to half the dialogue in Alien 4, and I'm like, "That's idiotic," because of the way it was said. And nobody knows that. Nobody ever gets that. They say, "That was a stupid script," which is the worst pain in the world. I have a great long boring story about that, but I can tell you the very short version. In Alien 4, the director changed something so that it didn't make any sense. He wanted someone to go and get a gun and get killed by the alien, so I wrote that in and tried to make it work, but he directed it in a way that it made no sense whatsoever. And I was sitting there in the editing room, trying to come up with looplines to explain what's going on, to make the scene make sense, and I asked the director, "Can you just explain to me why he's doing this? Why is he going for this gun?" And the editor, who was French, turned to me and said, with a little leer on his face, [adopts gravelly, smarmy, French-accented voice] "Because eet's een the screept." And I actually went and dented the bathroom stall with my puddly little fist. I have never been angrier. But it's the classic, "When something goes wrong, you assume the writer's a dork." And that's painful.
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puddly little fist my fave joss whedonism is him firing a lead actress and writing her off the show because she had the gall to get pregnant
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quote:i dont know who that is op, but i d ont like you posting Mod logic, friend. Follow the rules, don't follow the rules. like it matters....
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Troposphere posted:puddly little fist Champion of Women's Rights
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Pohl posted:Sure, but it gave us "Serenity" which is one of the best movies ever made. You are the perfect Whedon demographic.
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viking wolf corgi posted:joss whedon is a talentless hack (who used to be kinda decent i'll give him that), and i'm glad that he won't be doing much with the marvel universe anymore. he's a whiny piss baby who seems to have done nothing but complain since avengers 2 came out about how he didn't want daredevil to be a netflix series, how bucky was supposed to stay dead, that agents of shield isn't part of the marvel cinematic universe, etc. I love this because the person who wrote Daredevil and who was the executive producer was Drew Goddard. Who has worked with Whedon a lot. He was a writer on and director of Cabin in the Woods. Apparently he only claims responsibility for his successes.
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burritolingus posted:Champion of Women's Rights i'm pretty sure he invited her back telling her she was going to be a main character again and then immediately killed her character off without telling her out of spite
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Troposphere posted:puddly little fist What was he supposed to do? Sudden Loud Noise posted:You are the perfect Whedon demographic. It is a great movie. 
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Uncle Wemus posted:he and his legion of fans stain everything they touch with lovely characters, snarky dialogue and lame stories weren't you the guy w/ the model train j/o ad avatar
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I finally saw Avengers 2 and it was pretty drat bad. Still fun with all the whacky effects. But it was real bad, haha. The first one was great for what it was, but everything that it managed to make work in spite of itself went overboard and sucked tons of dick this time around. The snarky dialogue was atrocious and the attempts at drama and romance were super fuckin bad.
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Firefly is the only good thing he ever did. but it is a pretty drat good show so I think he is pretty cool on the whole because I can just ignore all his other awful poo poo.
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