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May 26, 2015 13:20
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Firefly bad, avengers bad, avengers 2 passable, angel good except for season 3+4 (season 5 hella good)
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May 26, 2015 13:25
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Pohl posted:Yes, there was good tv, but not like now. Seriously, you could probably name a dozen shows that stood out in history, and now tv is providing a phenomenal amount of good shows. Just lol if you think tv sucks now.
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May 26, 2015 14:04
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I agree with the insufferable dude, the 2000s have had some pretty good television.
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May 26, 2015 14:25
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the 100 is the best tv show on right now, it's really good too bad it's on a poo poo network
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May 26, 2015 14:48
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Pohl posted:I'm confused by this thread. Everyone watches his tv shows and films but you hate him??? loving lol. Goons are literally trying to be early 2000s hipsters anymore. Dyna Soar posted:i guess the technical quality of tv shows has increased overall and more money and effort is put into them. Actually the main reason TV got better is people have started to care much less about Syndication. If a TV show is allowed to have 6-13 episodes per season it means they don't have to include a ton of "filler" eps that do nothing but eat time. In the old days, everything had to be 22-26 episodes and that, right there, is 99% of the reason old TV feels watered down. It was. Every single show on the "Oh my God, look at this example of why TV is better" list is like that. And everyone will agree Walking Dead's quality dropped like a rock when they well more than doubled the episodes. I'm Crap posted:name three good shows that are currently on the air Better Call Saul Game of Thrones Not sure if it counts as "on air" but Daredevil owns too Dyna Soar posted:breaking bad could have been a good show if they had condensed it into one or two seasons. talking about loving filler Either you are kind of dumb, or are are trying to be edgy. I'm going with the latter. See my earlier "Goons are hipsters" comment. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 16:33 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 16:26
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Dyna Soar posted:what's the name of that 90s show that happened in a small town in texas and had a demonic sheriff and some kid or something? can't remember american gothic! mfing gary cole was the devil sheriff.
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May 26, 2015 17:05
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I'm Crap posted:name three good shows that are currently on the air the americans game of thrones true detective the new girl modern family selfie was way better than its insufferable title and premise let on, but it got canceled the daily show
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May 26, 2015 17:07
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May 26, 2015 17:09
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OMGVBFLOL posted:better call saul He said name three.
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May 26, 2015 17:11
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netflix's original series have been pretty good so far too
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May 26, 2015 17:12
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OMGVBFLOL posted:better call saul edit: if there ever was a golden age it was in about 2005 when you had the wire, the sopranos, rome and deadwood all on at the same time I'm Crap fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 17:25
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look buffy and farscape are cute little weirdo shows but lets not put them on the same level as true detective or im going to be really upset really upset!
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May 26, 2015 17:30
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I'm Crap posted:okay so that's basically a lot worse than what was on offer in 1999, long before the so-called golden age. back then you had good simpsons, x-files, good futurama, sopranos was just starting, homicide, buffy, farscape, oz, st:ds9 etc. You forget that pretty early in Simpsons, X-Files, Futurama all started to fade. Homicide was just another evolution of the cop show that runs rampant today. I find it hilarious Buffy is on the list in this thread. Oz & Sopranos were legit good and kind of prototypes for modern TV. Farscape was a cult show that's kind of being rediscovered if anything, and was highly serialized (again like modern TV) which hurt it at the time. DS9 is kind of in the same boat because around the same time you had all that noise about the shittastic Voyager despite the fact DS9 is probably the best Trek series and it never entered pop culture the same way. So really outside of your animated series references almost all of this stuff was effectively the first wave of the modern era of TV
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May 26, 2015 17:32
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The only time tv was good was from 1985-1987 during the first 3 seasons of Miami Vice, everything else is stupid uncool trash
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Much to cable companies eternal torment we owe most of these changes to streaming, it changed television a lot. I still remember around 2000 getting into a huge argument with an idiot who insisted the idea of streaming media was "100 years off."
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May 26, 2015 17:34
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Sell me on "The Americans" and "Hell on Wheels".
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Blazing Ownager posted:You forget that pretty early in Simpsons, X-Files, Futurama all started to fade. pretty soft girl posted:The only time tv was good was from 1985-1987 during the first 3 seasons of Miami Vice, everything else is stupid uncool trash edit: Blazing Ownager posted:Much to cable companies eternal torment we owe most of these changes to streaming, it changed television a lot. I'm Crap fucked around with this message at 17:48 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 17:44
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Joss Whedon is an awful writer. Much Ado About Nothing had some of the worst dialog I've ever heard in a movie. Worse than Juno.
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Blazing Ownager posted:Either you are kind of dumb, or are are trying to be edgy. I'm going with the latter. See my earlier "Goons are hipsters" comment. come on, i'm dumb just because i don't like the same tv show as you? it's neither, i just found most of it really boring. everything involving jesse for example and most of walt's home stuff. i watched maybe half or 2/3rds of the episodes and most of them just bored me. Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 19:32 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 19:29
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I'm Crap posted:see this guy gets it Modern tv owes far more to Michael Mann being truly innovative and excellent in the medium for three years than it ever would to Joss Whedon writing over a decade of barfy snark dialog but ~90s kids~ would never sink so low as to watch something that probably shows up on TV Land now Anything that's actually good thats been mentioned in this thread (aside from a handful of things, ie. The simpsons) pretty much draws its roots back to Miami vice in one way or another
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TEAYCHES posted:firefly was a good television series and im glad it was cancelled before it got bad I agree with this entirely. But another season would've been nice.
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May 26, 2015 20:24
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seriously though the americans is the best spy fiction in tv or film in recent memory. it's like early clancy; far-fetched and speculative but not implausible
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The only thing by Joss Whedon I've ever seen was cabin in the woods which so many people told me "oh man it totally breaks down and deconstructs horror movies, it's so clever and brilliant" and then I watched it and it might as well have had all the insight and wit of scary movie 6 or whatever I can only assume the rest of Whedon's catalog is also him screeching "DO YOU GET IT?? PRETTY CLEVER RIGHT" through the actors
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Gaunab posted:do you have a link for that? "Joss Whedon Wanted ‘Daredevil’ To Be A Movie Instead of a Netflix Show" http://screenrant.com/daredevil-movie-netflix-ratings-joss-whedon/ "Q&A: Joss Whedon on Super Heroes, the Pop Culture Mainstream" http://mentalfloss.com/uk/movies/28527/qa-joss-whedon-on-super-heroes-the-pop-culture-mainstream (here he references how Bucky was supposed to die, and how he wanted Coulson to stay dead) "Joss Whedon: Agents of S.H.I.E.LD. ISN'T in the MCU" http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/04/24/joss-whedon-agents-of-s-h-i-e-ld-isn-t-in-the-mcu-2882938
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May 26, 2015 21:12
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Well I for one am shocked, shocked that the man who writes with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face didn't write a trauma victim with enough care and sensitivity!
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May 26, 2015 21:16
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you faggots all loving suck eat poo poo and die why arent you all listening to my radio show on 86.3 FM (in a 3 mile radius of my house)
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May 26, 2015 21:30
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pretty soft girl posted:The only time tv was good was from 1985-1987 during the first 3 seasons of Miami Vice, everything else is stupid uncool trash hell yeah. first TV show I remember watching, my parents watched it religiously. ONLY 80S KIDS WILL REMEMBER THIS.
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pretty soft girl posted:Anything that's actually good thats been mentioned in this thread (aside from a handful of things, ie. The simpsons) pretty much draws its roots back to Miami vice in one way or another
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I'm guessing that miami vice is popular now with this 80s resurgence we're having, so the millennials in this thread should have no qualms about watching it. so go do that instead of jacking it over game of thrones (lol), you'll have to put up with SD resolution but I believe in you!!!
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opus111 posted:I'm guessing that miami vice is popular now with this 80s resurgence we're having, so the millennials in this thread should have no qualms about watching it. so go do that instead of jacking it over game of thrones (lol), you'll have to put up with SD resolution but I believe in you!!! I actually got really, really really into it when I was 23 and I'm 28 now so yeah it's millennial approved If you have even the slightest ability to figure out historical context and trendsetting you'll begin to realize that there's a very sharp divide between the presentation of tv shows pre-1984 and post-1984 and it has everything to do with Miami Vice Granted I think a lot of this will be lost on the same sort of people that think Seinfeld is the same as every other sitcom because every sitcom after it was so heavily influenced by it pretty soft girl fucked around with this message at 23:48 on May 26, 2015 |
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PICTURED: A BUNCH OF DUDES THAT ARE WAY loving COOLER THAN GRUFFBEARD AXESLASH OR DWARFMAN PISTACHIO. RIP LAURA BRANIGAN. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9SWf3YosG0
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May 26, 2015 23:56
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pretty soft girl posted:I actually got really, really really into it when I was 23 and I'm 28 now so yeah it's millennial approved i feel this way about Friends. It's not great now but people who say its cliched don't get that it invented those cliches, even though it stayed in a traditional sitcom framework. anyway, thats my thoughts about friends. people should respect it more imo.
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pretty soft girl posted:The only thing by Joss Whedon I've ever seen was cabin in the woods which so many people told me "oh man it totally breaks down and deconstructs horror movies, it's so clever and brilliant" and then I watched it and it might as well have had all the insight and wit of scary movie 6 or whatever This is why I hate Whedon fans. I don't think he's brilliant, I think he's fun. When I watch his poo poo like Cabin in the Woods I have a really fun time, but I don't think I'm watching some epic takedown of horror. I think I'm watching a horror fan having a fun wank and joining in on the good times. It's fun to watch an obvious commentary about how we hammer interesting human beings into stock archetypes that suffer for our amusement. It's really fun to watch a giant parade of monsters all doing their thing at the exact same time. Bradley Whitford is a goddamn national treasure. Why does it have to be more or less than that? I'm Crap posted:sure, whatever. i'm just saying it was probably better then than it is now, you just didn't have 290000 worthless "thinkpieces" produced each week about how blessed we are to be living in an age of artistic treasures like loving walking dead, sons of anarchy and dexter, so people didn't appreciate it. P. much. While there was internet circlejerking on media websites as far back as the mid-90s at least the amount of circlejerked and regurgitated content wanking off every cable show with decent visuals and half a cast's worth of decent actors is goddamn HUGE these days. It might not seem like as much of an industry but go to like any Barnes and Noble and just look at the merchandising empires that are being built on the backs of this crap. That's not a bad thing, but it does definitely create a narrative that really good television didn't exist prior to The Sopranos because every generation of young people needs to believe they were born on the cusp of greatness. Speaking of which go rewatch The Sopranos-- the amount of focus on Gen-X fuckboy Chris is annoying but for a show that largely isn't talked about anymore despite being so revolutionary it still holds up. Blazing Ownager posted:I still remember around 2000 getting into a huge argument with an idiot who insisted the idea of streaming media was "100 years off." That dude was an idiot but to be completely fair prior to like 2004-2006 (the arrival of YouTube hit like a motherfucking sledgehammer and changed everything almost overnight) internet video was p. rare and a pain in the goddamn rear end. I can see how someone who didn't realize how fast the tech was actually progressing would come to the conclusion that streaming media would never be worth the trouble. opus111 posted:people who say its cliched don't get that it invented those cliches This is the genuine curse of the innovator. It's probably why SA is seen as such a relic and internet backwater these days even though so much sprang forth from its septic waters.
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Gatekeeper posted:poo poo seemed just as different after twin peaks to me This is true. People who worked on Twin Peaks went on to work on Northern Exposure who employed David Chase who went onto Sopranos. Sopranos hired Matthew Weiner = Mad Men.
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May 27, 2015 00:44
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No TV show of consequence has been made since All in the Family.
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Automatic Slim posted:This is true. People who worked on Twin Peaks went on to work on Northern Exposure who employed David Chase who went onto Sopranos. Sopranos hired Matthew Weiner = Mad Men. checks out 
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