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THE GREATEST AMERICAN HERO This poll is closed. |
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| John Cena |
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42 | 15.73% |
| BELIEVE IT OR NOT |
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2 | 0.75% |
| I'M WALKING ON AIR |
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4 | 1.50% |
| I NEVER THOUGHT I COULD FEEL SO FREE EE EE |
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5 | 1.87% |
| FLYIN AWAY ON A WING AND A PRAYER |
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7 | 2.62% |
| WHO COULD IT BE |
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16 | 5.99% |
| BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT'S JUST ME |
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29 | 10.86% |
| BBQ Pitmasters, the tna killer. |
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162 | 60.67% |
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The GIG posted:I was more meaning him having matches every week with a bunch of midcarders who aren't doing poo poo. If all of them were squashes while commentary shits on them while calling them giant loser nerd fuckheads for daring to be in the same country as the invincible John Cena, then it would be a burial of the midcard. But the most that's really happened is that Cena beats the man because he is very strong, and that's okay because the champion should be very strong and be able to handle lesser men. That's not a burial. Hell, loving ZACK RYDER came out wih the stars of a TV show, had a match where he hit his spots, and only lost because he was so desperate to win that he pulled out a top rope move that was actually treated as high risk and missed and instead of saying "LOOK AT THE LOSER DOING TOP ROPE MOVES LIKE AN IDIOT MAGGLE" they played up that Ryder wanted it so bad he was willing to hit a high risk move to put Cena down, and people are still calling it a burial. Nobody knows what that word means anymore at this point. And despite all this, the odds are they'll go back to doing nothing with Ryder on Raw, also known as "the show that matters", until they need someone to lose.
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May 26, 2015 11:15
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Please post recaps in the op I don't have time to look them up.
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May 26, 2015 11:22
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Owens will lose, but he will look strong in defeat 
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May 26, 2015 11:25
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Little Mac posted:jesus christ at least link a recap http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wwe+raw+results that was so hard
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May 26, 2015 11:38
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bradzilla posted:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wwe+raw+results It is hard with a screaming baby to do much of anything let alone Google raw results and flip through a million click bait sites.
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May 26, 2015 12:03
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Preemptive tl;dr: Below I explain my optimism/why I'm enjoying what WWE has done lately in hopefully a more logical, reasoned manner rather than telling people they don't know how to have fun. It started out a shorter post but I found myself enjoying dissecting my viewpoint and analyzing stuff so it got really long, sorry. Feel free to ignore. yet the product is still dogshit. makes u think
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May 26, 2015 12:45
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I feel like Cena has been doing the best promo work of his career since becoming US champ.
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May 26, 2015 12:46
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Kevin Owens is poopy
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May 26, 2015 12:50
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So Elimination Chamber is going to be a full PPV card? Did they just decide to change a house show to a PPV to do this or what. Crowd could be really marky if true
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May 26, 2015 12:58
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bradzilla posted:So Elimination Chamber is going to be a full PPV card? Did they just decide to change a house show to a PPV to do this or what. Crowd could be really marky if true yes they did
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May 26, 2015 13:00
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bradzilla posted:So Elimination Chamber is going to be a full PPV card? Did they just decide to change a house show to a PPV to do this or what. Crowd could be really marky if true
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May 26, 2015 13:01
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St Evan Echoes posted:Its in Corpus Christi TX so it'll be marky as gently caress anyway I thought that Corpus Christi crowds were the drizzling shits, though?
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May 26, 2015 13:04
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Sasha aint ratchet posted:I thought that Corpus Christi crowds were the drizzling shits, though?
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May 26, 2015 13:08
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I think my only issue with the Ambrose segment was there were too many bits talking about him not coming back by the end of the show. 1. Dean's arrested he's not coming back. 2. Dean's like mega arrested, and there's no way he's going to come back. Seriously. 3. Honest to god, Ambrose isn't coming back, so don't get your hopes up. 
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May 26, 2015 13:27
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I thought certain bits of Raw were alright but the writing and booking are such horseshit I don't really care for anyone on the roster right now. Elimination Chamber will be awesome in a vacuum but the funny thing is that there is so much good talent right now there is honestly no excuse for not producing gold every week. All I'm seeing these days are midcarders trading wins week in, week out for the prize of the month which will mean gently caress all for their careers (King of the Ring, IC Title etc), anything relating to the goddamn Authority which sucks up about an hour of TV time with shenanigans that usually culminates in Trips/Steph getting the upper hand when it's all said and done that leaves me so dissatisfied I wonder what the hell was the point of watching in the first place and JOHN CENA which while I think the US open invitational stuff is awesome, everyone here has to know that when Cena leaves the US title picture the belt will go back to not being defended and become an afterthought after they put it on some poor sap that's never going to be in the main event picture while the commentators drone on about how it 'makes careers' and whatnot. I'm not saying Raw is poo poo but ebb and flow of Raw just makes certain things grind my gears and not care. I think that's why I love whenever Brock shows up. They throw out all the rules with him and it leads to some of the most memorable stuff I've seen in years.. If they booked most of the talent with a fraction of the effort they do with Brock it would be a golden age.
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May 26, 2015 13:31
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You're very right. I mean, if you look at the Attitude Era, Vince didn't really come out on top that often. But when he did, Vince's over the top rage made it entertaining. The Authority rarely lose, and they rarely lose their cool.
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May 26, 2015 13:34
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I wish they were doing the special EC thing not-on-a-Sunday. I want to watch it and am pretty excited about it overall despite not watching WWE in months, but I'm not gonna choose it over HBO's lineup. I feel like it might make it a little more special and have it stand out more if it wasn't happening on a Sunday like every other PPV/big show.
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May 26, 2015 13:40
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Paulocaust posted:yet the product is still dogshit. makes u think then now forever
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May 26, 2015 13:52
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Anime Curator posted:and that grabs the attention of Bray Don't joke
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May 26, 2015 13:53
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I really like that Cena beating Zack "Mr. 450" Ryder was the final straw for people to really bitch about him
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May 26, 2015 14:01
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I'm just really bored with what they're doing with Lana. Just having her serve as a justification for a feud between Zigler and Rusev just seems so lazy. Not to mention that creative can't come up with other angles for women than using their sexuality as a "weapon". I'd have liked to see Lana more as a mastermind character. Have her enter into an alliance with Steph and contract wrestler after wrestler to beat the poo poo out of Rusev until he begs for forgiveness or some silly "i quit" type of a deal. Granted it doesn't give her that much agency but it would be better than the crap they're showeling now.
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May 26, 2015 14:05
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Meadowhill posted:I'm just really bored with what they're doing with Lana. Just having her serve as a justification for a feud between Zigler and Rusev just seems so lazy. Not to mention that creative can't come up with other angles for women than using their sexuality as a "weapon". It hasn't been perfect, but at least they had Lana stand up to Rusev. I was afraid this storyline was going to be handled much, much worse.
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May 26, 2015 14:07
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I'm not a fan of splitting them up, but both Lana and Rusev are selling the hell out of the material they have to work with so it's not that bad for what it is. I don't give a gently caress about Dolph's part in the story though, and look forward to Rusev killing the poo poo out of him repeatedly
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May 26, 2015 14:13
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I hope Ziggler gets fed up with Lana using him to piss off Rusev because it would actually give Lana some material to work with. That her motivation was more I want to piss you off so look at me kiss this rear end in a top hat American, rather than generic Dolph is a cutie storyline number 503.
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May 26, 2015 14:28
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ThisRusev posted:...Three magical words... Audience member posted:NEW DAY SUCKS!!! was very good
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May 26, 2015 14:37
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Zack Ryder wrestled a real match for the first time since 2009 Thank You John Tonfa fucked around with this message at 14:47 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 14:44
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Spikeguy posted:I hope Ziggler gets fed up with Lana using him to piss off Rusev because it would actually give Lana some material to work with. That her motivation was more I want to piss you off so look at me kiss this rear end in a top hat American, rather than generic Dolph is a cutie storyline number 503. Well apparently on Smackdown Ziggler said he's cool with Lana using him to piss off Rusev, so they tied up that little storyline already.
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May 26, 2015 14:46
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For the "OMG Cena is burying the midcard!" crowd: You should just go play TEW because obviously you enjoy pretending you're a booker more than you like watching wrestling.
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May 26, 2015 14:46
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Because Elimination Chamber is a Network-exclusive show, they're going to want to do something major on the show to demonstrate to fans that you need to have the network because you just can't miss this stuff. Does that mean Dean is going to win the belt from Seth? It's possible. But the more likely answer is that Owens will destroy Cena. The fact that it's not even a title match should tell everyone that Owens is going over, and suddenly not only do you need to have the Network so you don't miss exclusive shows like Elimination Chamber, but you need it to watch Kevin Owens -- a guy who will likely be wrestling exclusively on the Network for the next year and already has enough feuds lined up to easily last him through the next 12 months. Occasionally using Raw to build up KO matches on the Network is a much more tantalizing draw to the service than whatever original programming they're producing, and it's a smart way to make a guy into a big deal well before he's a permanent fixture on the main roster.
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May 26, 2015 14:47
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They'll probably just use one of Brock's dates and have him kill Seth and/or Dean postmatch, if the match even has an ending
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May 26, 2015 14:49
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HulkaMatt posted:I'm really glad he didn't give Zack Ryder a back and forth 10 minute match because that would have been ridiculous. He let Ryder hit his big moves but that was about it.
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May 26, 2015 15:11
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I have a feeling it's going to be some sort of major Triple H led Kevin Owens and nXt invasion style cross promotion. Like a holy gently caress trigger pulled script flipping moment.
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May 26, 2015 15:11
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Chris James 2 posted:They'll probably just use one of Brock's dates and have him kill Seth and/or Dean postmatch, if the match even has an ending This. Dean is going to be winning until Brock wrecks everyone's poo poo.
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May 26, 2015 15:11
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Normally, I would think Owens has no chance, but the US Title not being on the line makes me think he's got a shot at winning. Also, given that this is Network only and they seem to want to make sure subs roll over into June 1 at Midnight, I'm guessing the show runs long since there's no PPV providers to worry about.
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May 26, 2015 15:17
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Except you could cancel your subscription right now and still be good through the end of the month.
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May 26, 2015 15:20
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GrimGypsy posted:Imagine, if you will, a US champ who is a somewhat new, young star making a name for themselves by defending their title against all comers. This is a very silly idea, I know. Imagine, if you will, the world's largest star of wrestling actively defending what was previously a more of a prop than a belt. This brings prestige and legitimacy to the belt. When, and yes it's a matter of when, some young new star beats Cena it will seem more important.
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May 26, 2015 15:21
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Everything about this post is coincidentally also tryhard crap IMO. Your RAW post summed it up best - people all up in arms expecting Dean to be used like the next Stone Cold, then when WWE actually pulls the trigger and does what they want, it's all "what a bunch of rehashed crap a bloo bloo this is dumb" Make up your goddamn minds you bunch of bipolar idiots. Also RAW was pretty fun overall other than the typical Authority half-hour promos that should've been replaced with matches.
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May 26, 2015 15:23
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Optimist with doubt posted:Imagine, if you will, the world's largest star of wrestling actively defending what was previously a more of a prop than a belt. This brings prestige and legitimacy to the belt. When, and yes it's a matter of when, some young new star beats Cena it will seem more important. This is true but then I remember the Tag Titles in 2010 and get sad.
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May 26, 2015 15:25
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Ozz81 posted:Your RAW post summed it up best - people all up in arms expecting Dean to be used like the next Stone Cold, then when WWE actually pulls the trigger and does what they want, it's all "what a bunch of rehashed crap a bloo bloo this is dumb" Not all of us have the same opinions 
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May 26, 2015 15:26
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triplexpac posted:It hasn't been perfect, but at least they had Lana stand up to Rusev. I was afraid this storyline was going to be handled much, much worse. Yeah, I think you're right about that. I'm just rather miffed with WWE's strict gender roles. Lucha Underground seems to take a very different approach to inter-sex violence with Pentagon attacking the announcer and Sexy star beating him up for it and other infractions. Now a very, very terrible and utterly entertaining storyline would have included having the whole Divas roster, or maybe only naomi and her buddy, showing up and beating Rusev for not treating Lana right as is the way when men have a problem with another.
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May 26, 2015 15:27
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