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Nice to see, but man are his explanations for what constitutes a player type weak.
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Good news everyone, almost all of the top 120 are likely to be top 4 defensemen or top 6 forwards, many with "Cerebral" or even "Very Cerebral" offensive talent.
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Jamwad Hilder posted:Good news everyone, almost all of the top 120 are likely to be top 4 defensemen or top 6 forwards, many with "Cerebral" or even "Very Cerebral" offensive talent. I figured it's more of a scale of play style than like above average or something. As in 'very cerebral' means relies almost exclusively on hockey IQ and 'very forceful' would be a guy who just tries to physically outmatch people all the time. It's not a good system, but it sorta made sense.
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Cool it's 200 000 words written by Joe from Burlington
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If Kylington falls to 33 I'll be pretty shocked. And if he's there if he's there at 15 and Calgary doesn't draft him, I'll be kinda annoyed. I could actually see Burke trying to talk Treliving into picking Lawson Crouse. "He's like Michael Ferland, but better!"
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I don't think Calgary getting Crouse at #15 would be a bad thing.
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Twin Cinema posted:I don't think Calgary getting Crouse at #15 would be a bad thing. I don't think it's what Calgary needs. I think they either need to shore up their D or find an offensively gifted guy. If they grab a forward I'd prefer Shlachnikov or Matt Barzal if they can make it happen. Also, Doug Wilson is listening for offers for the 9th pick http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=771527
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If Barzal falls to 15 you take him and run, but that's just not going to happen. Also never draft for "need." The team will change over the however many years it takes for whoever Calgary takes to make the NHL, and players can never be blocked like they could in the NBA.
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Agreed. Barzal doesn't make it out of the top 10.
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Jordan7hm posted:http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1903817 his analysis is pretty poo poo. he just put a lot of effort into it
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Verviticus posted:his analysis is pretty poo poo. he just put a lot of effort into it Agreed. Some of these are kind of puzzling. This analysis of Filip ahl sounds like typical bad scouting rhetoric: "defensive zone buy-in will need to be higher to fully take advantage of his physical tools" What does that even mean? I think it means the writer watched something like this video below and didn't really understand the style/level of hockey being played. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B636_zYeO8 I like what I see here, and he's ranked a couple spots past the Rangers second round pick. I wonder if they see him as potentially being of the same Swedish defensively-savvy forward style as Hagelin and Fast. He's physically big enough to make the jump to the North American pro/jr style immediately, and he looked very aggressive as a penalty killer in the wider/longer defensive zone. Good on the boards too. That's my speculation for my team's first pick.
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In continued intangibles news, Lawson Crouse just hit one out of the park at Miami Marlins batting practice.
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The Projection Project released its own rankings based on its own formulas and it's uh... a bit different from the CSS' http://www.theprojectionproject.com/blog/2015/06/24/the-big-list-ranking-the-2015-draft-by-probability-of-success/ However, it does reinforce the idea that Anthony Richard is the most criminally underrated player in this draft for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
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Actually, according to that list, someone named Gabe Bast is the most criminally underrated player. From 500th to 10th in the rankings.
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that list owns and it's going to be fun to track the next several years
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I like that Svechnikov ranks higher on that list. Kind of reflects what I think about him, since IMO he's pretty great and maybe suffers from the "Is Russian" stigma. I'm not sure about the rest of it though. It'd be interesting to follow over the next few seasons, although I'll probably forget about. Out of curiosity, do you have links handy for past drafts, if they've done them?
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Jamwad Hilder posted:It'd be interesting to follow over the next few seasons, although I'll probably forget about. Out of curiosity, do you have links handy for past drafts, if they've done them? The projection project is relatively new, so I don't think they've done anything outside of this year. Hopefully they do some retroactive stuff to test their hypothesis. Mitch vande Somple is high on their list which is cool too. He put up great numbers as a blueliner playing on a stacked Oshawa team. He's unique in that he's a defenceman most of the time, but a forward on the PK. He's one of those players that I'd easily use a good pick on simply because he's already so versatile. If he doesn't make it as a defenceman, he's already had a lot of experience as a defensive foward.
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Twin Cinema posted:Actually, according to that list, someone named Gabe Bast is the most criminally underrated player. From 500th to 10th in the rankings. His name is basically Bust, avoid at all costs
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ive never met a person named "gabe" that wasnt a huge jerk, he'll probably be a wonderful hockey player
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Vicas posted:His name is basically Bust, avoid at all costs I've always enjoyed that Michael Busto, a throw in part of the McDonaugh-Gomez trade, was fittingly a complete bust. whatis posted:ive never met a person named "gabe" that wasnt a huge jerk, he'll probably be a wonderful hockey player This is a very good point.
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How is Crouse ahead of Rantanen in most mock drafts? They're both big wingers, and while Crouse uses his size more, Rantanen has very good hockey IQ, has been playing against men for a year now (while not looking out of place) and has outscored Crouse about 2 to 1 in junior tournaments.
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Kuule hain nussivan posted:How is Crouse ahead of Rantanen in most mock drafts? They're both big wingers, and while Crouse uses his size more, Rantanen has very good hockey IQ, has been playing against men for a year now (while not looking out of place) and has outscored Crouse about 2 to 1 in junior tournaments. Crouse's high ranking has been a bit of a mystery all year. He's a bit of a tools pick, but he's getting good reports from competent not-idiot types and not just BIG BODY PRESENCE YOU CAN'T TEACH SIZE so v  v
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I'm really hoping Rantanen falls to Dallas, two-way Finnish forwards are the best things in life.
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Crouse also has scouts saying dumb crap like "He's a candidate to wear a C some day" which somehow never seems to get said about Europeans... Some of my wariness over Crouse is this Luke Schenn vibe where scouts seem to have fallen in love with him as a person in their projections. That's great and all, but probably not top-10 great.
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Happy Conner McDavid Day everyone.
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RC Cola posted:Happy Conner McDavid Day everyone. Connor McDay-vid
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So what's gonna be Connor's equivalent to Sid the Kid gonna be? We need something catchy, STAT
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If someone has Insider, do they mind posting the list of his rankings of the top-30 prospects of the past 3 years? I want to see where Strome/Hanifin/Marner rank. You can post the list, just not his write-ups.
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Vicas posted:So what's gonna be Connor's equivalent to Sid the Kid gonna be? We need something catchy, STAT Con le Bon Condor McDavid Connie McFly Big C C McD Little Bitch Hockey Kid
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Vicas posted:So what's gonna be Connor's equivalent to Sid the Kid gonna be? We need something catchy, STAT McJesus
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Vicas posted:So what's gonna be Connor's equivalent to Sid the Kid gonna be? We need something catchy, STAT Connor MD, along with dr. drai and nurse here to heal the oilers
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fits posted:Connor MD, along with dr. drai and nurse here to heal the oilers Hahahah oh my god, I can already hear Emrick cheekily saying "The Doctor Is In"
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Twin Cinema posted:If someone has Insider, do they mind posting the list of his rankings of the top-30 prospects of the past 3 years? I want to see where Strome/Hanifin/Marner rank. McDavid MacKinnon Eichel Drouin Jones Ekblad Barkov Reinhart Nichushkin Bennett Marner Strome Lindholm Hanifin Monahan Nylander Draisaitl Ehlers Shinkaruk Fiala Barzal Dal Colle Konecny Werenski Ristolainen Svechnikov Crouse Kapanen Ritchie Domi
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I am surprised that MacKinnon is higher than Eichel, and Ekblad is 6th. I have also apparently forgotten the Drouin hype.
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Pronman was Drouin superfan #1, and had him first overall that year. These aren't supposed to have the benefit of hindsight, but he did say he has adjusted his rankings where he thinks he made mistakes at the time.
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Shinkaruk looks like the most egregious one on there today. Though after seeing him in the WHL I thought he'd be a decent top 6 player.
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poo poo I forgot that TSN isn't doing the draft. Who needs Bob McKenzie when you can listen to the insights of Damien Cox and Doug McLean 
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Soal_Fish posted:poo poo I forgot that TSN isn't doing the draft. Who needs Bob McKenzie when you can listen to the insights of Damien Cox and Doug McLean Uggggghhhhh I didn't know that. I actually kinda like McKenzie too.
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