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http://www.cio.com/article/2927074/us-sides-with-oracle-in-java-copyright-dispute-with-google.htmlquote:US sides with Oracle in Java copyright dispute with Google awwwww yeah folks!
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owned. thanks Obama.
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May 27, 2015 15:55
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I am also hoping oracle curb stomps Oregon and that the feds not only side w/ oracle but also obliterate the corrupt as poo poo Oregon government. without our heroes in oracles legal team fighting for justice, no one would have known just how bad Oregon's state government truly is.
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May 27, 2015 15:58
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Shaggar posted:I am also hoping oracle curb stomps Oregon and that the feds not only side w/ oracle but also obliterate the corrupt as poo poo Oregon government. the injustice of not paying for a crummy computerman service
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May 27, 2015 16:10
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I want to see google get hosed as much as anyone but this is a bad decision
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May 27, 2015 17:49
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May 27, 2015 17:49
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Ludwig van Halen posted:the injustice of naming another city Portland
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May 27, 2015 17:51
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idk why you need wine. windows licenses are pretty cheap.
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May 27, 2015 18:20
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this seems like a bad thing. what reason besides insane google hatred or oracle stock ownderhsip would anyone have to support this
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May 27, 2015 18:23
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because people should be paid for their work.
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May 27, 2015 18:24
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did oracle claim that using any kind of api in general infringed their copyright, or some kind of specific java api? Sorry, I'm not a computer professional and I don't have a college degree. Bless
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May 27, 2015 18:27
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oracle claims a copyright on the java standard library API. this standard library ships with every copy of java so that people can code against it using the standard classes and interfaces defined by the API. this makes code more interoperable and portable. google decided to use java as the language for android and they could have written their own standard library + API, but instead they decided to copy the standard library API from oracle. they claim the implementation is original work (questionable) but the API is unquestioningly copied straight up from oracle. this is so goog could take advantage of all the preexisting code out there in the java world. this also makes their claim that the implementation is original work highly suspect since changes to the implementation could cause compatibility problems with regular java libs.
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May 27, 2015 18:36
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the claim is that Google copied the Java api for some reason. so the code you write for android is Java but not really I still don't know why goog opted for Java in the first place. so all those Java se devs could port their desktop apps to android...?
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May 27, 2015 18:36
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Busta Chimes.wav posted:this seems like a bad thing. what reason besides insane google hatred or oracle stock ownderhsip would anyone have to support this it is good because the white house doesn't want larry to give millions of dollars to the republicans next year so they're doing him a solid and this is a cool and appropriate way for the government of a republic to function
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May 27, 2015 18:37
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Ludwig van Halen posted:the claim is that Google copied the Java api for some reason. so the code you write for android is Java but not really there is a massive amount of preexisting java code covering loads of problems so if you need to do something, theres like a 99% chance theres already a java lib for it. Also, java is massively popular so there are loads of developers who already understand it. lastly, its a pretty good language on its own and their only other language choice would have been c# and they aren't gonna poke that bear.
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May 27, 2015 18:39
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i hope the judge passes down the sentence that larry page and sergey brin are strangled to death with larry ellison's entrails
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May 27, 2015 18:41
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Shaggar posted:oracle claims a copyright on the java standard library API. this standard library ships with every copy of java so that people can code against it using the standard classes and interfaces defined by the API. this makes code more interoperable and portable. so it sounds like google didn't have the foresight to know phone apps are not desktop apps. much like their tablet strategy. got it
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May 27, 2015 18:41
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The Management posted:I want to see google get hosed as much as anyone but this is a bad decision
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May 27, 2015 18:41
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Ludwig van Halen posted:so it sounds like google didn't have the foresight to know phone apps are not desktop apps. much like their tablet strategy. got it idk what you mean by that
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May 27, 2015 18:41
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Ludwig van Halen posted:so it sounds like google didn't have the foresight to know phone apps are not desktop apps. much like their tablet strategy. got it They didn't want to invest in creating their own development community+infrastructure, instead just using the one Oracle has heavily invested in without paying the license appropriate for enterprises like everyone else
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May 27, 2015 18:44
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Ludwig van Halen posted:so it sounds like google didn't have the foresight to know phone apps are not desktop apps. much like their tablet strategy. got it they're stupid for buying android in the first place but they prob didn't make that decision. they did choose to stick with it though
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May 27, 2015 18:45
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Shaggar posted:idk what you mean by that by the sound of it they wanted existing Java Se devs to latch onto android by the simple fact they had Java experience... for the desktop
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May 27, 2015 18:49
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most of java then was server side stuff. desktop java apps died when sun kicked Microsoft out. not that it matters as java is identical on desktop server or phone.
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May 27, 2015 18:50
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Ludwig van Halen posted:by the sound of it they wanted existing Java Se devs to latch onto android by the simple fact they had Java experience... for the desktop who else exactly was supposed to start making apps?
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May 27, 2015 18:58
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doesn't this mean that microsoft's recently announced obj-c iOS compiler for windows 10 phone is also illegal?
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May 27, 2015 19:26
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google is ownage and just lol at anyone thinking they can take them on
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May 27, 2015 19:30
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Necc0 posted:http://www.cio.com/article/2927074/us-sides-with-oracle-in-java-copyright-dispute-with-google.html 
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May 27, 2015 19:37
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I guess I 'get' that at the time, x86 hardware was too hot and too power-draining to be used in smartphones, but come on. Surely they is something better than The ARM Aids requiring the poo poo android does to make sure programs run vaguely the same on every phone.
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May 27, 2015 19:40
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this function takes 2 floats as arguments and returns a double. COPYRIGHT 2015 LUTHA DO NOT STEAL
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May 27, 2015 20:09
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Lutha Mahtin posted:this function takes 2 floats as arguments and returns a double. COPYRIGHT 2015 LUTHA DO NOT STEAL i named mine func(y, x) instead so i skirted your bullshit copyright
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May 27, 2015 20:18
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lol i guess they forgot the part where the person who copies the spec and the person who implements it from the spec have to be different welcome to 1985 i guess
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May 27, 2015 20:19
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What's the most edgy and controversial viewpoint in this thread that I haven't read at all? That's the viewpoint that I'm taking here.
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May 27, 2015 20:20
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I'm going to side with Google as they provide me with lots of neat internet functionality and great search results, and oracle provide me with, uh, no idea.
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May 27, 2015 20:24
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Larry Parrish posted:I guess I 'get' that at the time, x86 hardware was too hot and too power-draining to be used in smartphones, but come on. Surely they is something better than The ARM Aids requiring the poo poo android does to make sure programs run vaguely the same on every phone. It has predominantly been about money, Intel licensing tries to follow their extreme desktop & server markup model. Also, see mass migration of vendors from Windows Phone to Android. Also, see the licensing mistakes of Google TV compared with Android TV. Google TV enforced usage of an expensive lovely processor from only one vendor.
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May 27, 2015 20:26
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a good decision
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May 27, 2015 20:27
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But what about freedom???
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May 27, 2015 21:20
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Valeyard posted:google is ownage and just lol at anyone thinking they can take them on shut up bitch
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May 27, 2015 21:27
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gargle chome posted:shut up bitch That's it. Yer hosed now pal.
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May 27, 2015 21:39
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countdown to google releasing an android sdk in Go or Rust or some other bullshit like that
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Ludwig van Halen posted:the claim is that Google copied the Java api for some reason. so the code you write for android is Java but not really reminder that what got this whole shitcircus started was the goog trying to weasel out of paying sun's laughably pithy licensing fees and knowing that they wouldn't do anything about it. then sun was acquired by larry and 
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