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Jun 5, 2015 00:33
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The man called M posted:
He's mourning, you insensitive oaf! GeneX posted:WHAT DID YOU DO TO RUTGER'S FACE Here's a hint: Not what I wanted to do to Rutger's face. 
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Jun 5, 2015 00:35
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:I'm so depressed! I need to wear my depressed garb!
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Cheer up, emo Roy. This lp is fantastic.
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Jun 5, 2015 00:38
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Is there supposed to be a joke for Rutger beyond 'he looks different now?' Because I'm not getting it.
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Jun 5, 2015 01:08
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Please dear god change him back. That is creepy and pulling focus away from all the other awesomeness. Also good god your people are speedy. Not so much with the power though.
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Jun 5, 2015 01:17
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My first question about Rutger is WHY  My second question is why is he Race Bannon now?
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Jun 5, 2015 01:21
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Rutger's always been FE's second most obvious Navarre clone so just use this: Now he has a hat and is thus unique. If resizing it to fit in makes it shittier then that's well and good and everything I want.
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Jun 5, 2015 01:46
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Level Seven posted:My first question about Rutger is WHY Kids!  He was going for Rutger Hauer, probably most famous [at least in nerdy circles] as the "villain" Roy Batty from Blade Runner. Loving the edits, Vil.  Did you actually change Roy's portrait in-game for that chapter?Edit: Holy cow, Blade Runner is as old as I am.  Edit 2: Y'know, I should've quoted Hellioning, with L7 name-dropping Race you might be older than me! 
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Jun 5, 2015 01:54
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vilkacis posted:
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Jun 5, 2015 01:59
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Wayne posted:Kids! Goddamn, that's why I recognized that face.
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Jun 5, 2015 02:19
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Rutger's always been FE's second most obvious Navarre clone Rutger...I'd almost hesitate to call him "Navarre Junior" because of how nearly similar their personalities are rather than "Navarre 6.0".
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Jun 5, 2015 02:23
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Rutger at least has a backstory because Navarre is just "A sell sword." Also he's the series first 'Mymidon' in that he finally split the class from Sword Fighter to Mercenary/Myrmidon
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Jun 5, 2015 03:46
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Holy hell that Rutger...thing is a horror.
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Jun 5, 2015 04:43
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This chapter really shows how important a good translation is to some of the characters in Fire Emblem. Melth in his ranked run talked about how annoying Clarine was and in a more dry translation I suppose that's kind of true. But it's hard to hate her when she goes around calling people a things like "barf of a man" here. The character works when she's got funny writing to back her up. L'arachel in FE8 was the same.
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Jun 5, 2015 05:40
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Level Seven posted:My first question about Rutger is WHY Because I made it and I went "god drat this looks horrible" and then I went "I can't wait to post it". Wayne posted:He was going for Rutger Hauer I wasn't sure anyone would get it, given how "pretty" it is. But yes, that was indeed the joke, because that's what pops into my head when I see the name "Rutger".  quote:Loving the edits, Vil. Glad to hear it, and I did indeed! Everything you see is in the game. (Given how easy it is to insert faces, it's actually easier to just put it in the game than to edit every screenshot separately.) Lotish posted:Holy hell that Rutger...thing is a horror. I aim to please. I may not always hit, though. dude789 posted:This chapter really shows how important a good translation is to some of the characters in Fire Emblem. Melth in his ranked run talked about how annoying Clarine was and in a more dry translation I suppose that's kind of true. But it's hard to hate her when she goes around calling people a things like "barf of a man" here. The character works when she's got funny writing to back her up. L'arachel in FE8 was the same. She does feel rather like proto-L'arachel, if not quite as delightfully deranged. I can definitely see how someone would find her annoying no matter how good the translation is, though. Personally, I just think laughing in Narcian's face and going "Away with you,peasant!" at Merlinus makes up for any low points she might have
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Jun 5, 2015 13:15
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So, speaking of localization and Clarine...remember when she says "Hmph, I will not be friendly with you..."? Well, turns out, that was just a flat mistranslation, as according to Gringe, the guy who did the new localization (he frequents Serenes Forest)...Gringe posted:The Japanese just had her saying it was not the time for niceties due to the fact that they're surrounded by enemies, IIRC, but the old patch seemed to imply something a little different. So there we go. Pretty interesting huh?
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Jun 6, 2015 00:26
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Fionordequester posted:So, speaking of localization and Clarine...remember when she says "Hmph, I will not be friendly with you..."? Well, turns out, that was just a flat mistranslation, as according to Gringe, the guy who did the new localization (he frequents Serenes Forest)... My takeaway is that Clarine is far better than generic mildly-uptight noble jrpg heroine #735. Also that literal translations aren't always the best kind of translation.
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Jun 6, 2015 01:16
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Fionordequester posted:So, speaking of localization and Clarine...remember when she says "Hmph, I will not be friendly with you..."? I... actually don't remember her saying that  GeneX posted:My takeaway is that Clarine is far better than generic mildly-uptight noble jrpg heroine #735. Agreed on both counts. Especially the former. How many generic mildly-uptight noble heroines have horses? Not a whole dang lot of them!
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Jun 6, 2015 02:05
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GeneX posted:My takeaway is that Clarine is far better than generic mildly-uptight noble jrpg heroine #735. Still not as good as Maribelle. Well, translated Maribelle. I just love how she wanted a fair and equal justice system... because if it wasn't fair people wouldn't know how much better nobles were than commoners.
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Jun 6, 2015 03:23
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chiasaur11 posted:Still not as good as Maribelle. Well, translated Maribelle. I'm pretty sure her Libra support has her waging war against the nobles because the current justice system was poo poo.
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Jun 6, 2015 03:25
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Oh hey, sweet. I guess I missed this. So far this new translation is really annoying me. On one hand, it's a lot less janky and - I'll go out on a limb here - more accurate. On the other hand, I'm way too used to the names at this point so suddenly having Thany turn into "Shanna", and so on really gets on my tits.  Also stop badmouthing Sydin fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jun 6, 2015 |
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Jun 6, 2015 05:10
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Sydin posted:Oh hey, sweet. I guess I missed this. Blame (RIP Lakche.)
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Jun 6, 2015 05:41
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Hellioning posted:Blame Yeah but he never actually wields Forseti???? That's Arthur's job.
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Jun 6, 2015 05:58
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cheetah7071 posted:Yeah but he never actually wields Forseti???? That's Arthur's job. I see you, too, have decided to expunge Thracia 776 from your memory.
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Jun 6, 2015 06:05
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Hellioning posted:I see you, too, have decided to expunge Thracia 776 from your memory. Um Thracia is is the greatest game in the series but that chump is just wielding a cheap knockoff of the real thing. He's basically Shanam to Arthur's Shannan.
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Jun 6, 2015 06:07
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I don't know if this counts as fanart since I've had it since last year, but I logged onto Guild Wars 2 and forgot what I named my pet shark.  nothing can escape his maw
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Jun 6, 2015 15:28
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Sydin posted:So far this new translation is really annoying me. On one hand, it's a lot less janky and - I'll go out on a limb here - more accurate. On the other hand, I'm way too used to the names at this point so suddenly having Thany turn into "Shanna", and so on really gets on my tits. Even not having played the game before, I kind of agree with this. Some of the names could definitely have been left alone - things like Alan/Allen and Ellen/Elen just feel like they just altered it because they could. And even I find myself typing Thany at times quote:Also stop badmouthing But she comes in with 1 mag and 0 def and gains at the very most 11 exp per round. LordHippoman posted:I don't know if this counts as fanart since I've had it since last year, but I logged onto Guild Wars 2 and forgot what I named my pet shark.  Also there's something strangely appealing about the words "pet shark". 
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Jun 6, 2015 19:19
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Chapter 5: Fire Emblem or, Crushing Disappointment The period of mourning for Hector is over and Roy has put on his asskicking pants and found his resolve.  Roy realizes that the leaders of Lycia, his homeland, can no longer be trusted. See how resolved he looks?  And that's all the narration we get.  Ah, the trees, the mountains, the open air... It smells like filler. We already had a bandit chapter, dang it!  Our boys just got back from scouting the village. Then let's go get our tribute. But Boss, something's different today. There's an army stationed real close to us! They say it looks like the Lycian Army. Lycia? Then there's nothing to worry about. They were almost wiped out by Bern. We can handle a few battered soldiers. You're right, Boss! They've probably got some valuables on them too! Still, don't get careless. Ready then? Let's mop up these losers, boys!Wrong on both counts.  Hey, you wait just a second... Meanwhile, on the other side of the mountains...   Yes. How may I help you? Milord, I beg you! Please, rid us of the bandits terrorizing our village!milady Bandits? There's a group of bandits that made their base in the castle near the cliffs. Where are the castle guards? They fled once they heard that the Lycian Army was defeated by Bern... We villagers were left on our own. Our days are spent in fear of bandit attacks. ...... We have no one else we can ask. Please, help us! Lord Roy, we must keep our pace towards Ostia... Yes, I know. But we can't simply ignore people in need of help! You're joking! You will help us?! Thank you! Please use the gate to the west. It'll take you right to the castle. Thank you. I'll arrange for the gate to be opened when you give the signal. Sigh... Youthful energy. Where does it come from?Probably the asskicking pants. In one of the pockets, with the resolve.  Not a terribly big map, this time around. We could head left, kill the boss and move on, but there's a village and a vendor on top, as well as a whole bunch of dudes we can turn into experience points.  It's mostly straight-forward, but there is one thing that makes this fight a little different from the last.  The leader of a group of brigands in Lycia. Dory has a pretty impressive strength score. But more importantly,  ...he has this. Rutger was bad enough! Let's do the math real quick. Bors is the toughest person in the party with 12 DEF and 23 HP. Critical hits deal triple damage. Bors takes 36 points. A one in three chance to one-shot the sturdiest person in the group from full health is not something you should take lightly, especially not after fighting the entire rest of the enemy force and being one guy from completion. However, it is still only a 1-range weapon, so there's little reason to actually let him use it. Like Erik, he'll switch to a ranged option - in this case a hand axe - if engaged at 2 range, so we'll take our free round of chipping and then we can get up close and finish it once he's stuck with a much less dangerous weapon.  I see forts, and I don't want the enemy to occupy them.  While I do some thinking, Bors and Wolt will be handling the gate and Marcus will visit the huts and maybe do some tanking on the side if there's still enemies left when he's done.  The wyvern riders of Bern were terrifying enough... But then a dragon engulfed the Lycian Army in flame... Oh Elimine, please tell me it was a dream... That sounds unpleasant, but, I'm guessing the bulk of the forces were first level soldiers anyway, so there's no need for us to be all that worried... right?  Okay, so I think I know what to do. First we'll get Chad up here. Then Wade will take the fort above and pick Chad up...  ...and Clarine takes Chad and drops him on the other fort. Genius!  There's some risk involved here, but a sword user on a fort is kinda hard to hit for most axe users.  Now he's even harder to hit.  0% hit rate   There's only those two guys in range, so the rest of the round is just shuffling.  Meanwhile, in the village...  I will, Father Yoder. But where did Saul run off to now? How am I supposed to guard him if he keeps disappearing?  Come now, don't be like that. We can sit by the fire in the dark of night as I soothe you with my calming sermons...Is that what they call it these days?  Party pooper to the rescue. Wonderful. Dorothy... I'll take my leave now. Oh my... Look what you've done now, Dorothy. That expression on your face scared her away.  Saul, you can't try to woo every girl you meet. You make it sound like a bad thing! I simply offer my helping hand to any poor souls in need.  Did you have some good reason for interrupting my good work? Oh, right. The Lycian Army is apparently somewhere around here. Truly?! Is Princess Guinivere still with them? Yes, if the reports from the St. Elimine Church are accurate. Then we must make haste! Let us join them. ...... What's the matter, Dorothy? You only want to join them because Princess Guinivere is said to be so beautiful. Don't be ridiculous. Come now, hurry along. Yes, let's go! An archer and... another staffbot? Don't mind if I do! They seem like a fun duo to have around, too, even if one of them is inevitably getting benched as soon as-  ... Wait, what the hell? We were right here! Get back here and recruit yourselves, asshats!  Anyway, Lugh does away with the lowest fighter and Rutger gets a less awesome sword from Merlinus so he can...  ...still crit this guy. Oh well!  That'll stop enemy reinforcements from showing up! Marcus visits the next house.  And Wolt takes a shot at this guy.  After doing so, the gate opens!  "It's not as if I could see the loving thing from where I'm sitting or anything!" But hey, he's a Dory. I wouldn't expect him to be too bright. Cunning little weaklings... We just opened the thing. It was there all along. I... Okay I give up, let's just kill them. I park Bors so he'll keep everyone from swarming Wolt and hitting him from inside bow range.  Sadly, just about all of them go for Bors, and no one manages to land a hit because the bandits all suck and Bors has a weapon triangle disadvantage against them. Wolt does the best he can with what he's getting,though, and gets a pretty nice level-up.  Oh, and this, too. I think it's the first rank-up this run. Wolt can now use c-rank bows, if only we could find some.  Marcus.  They can cross mountains and a bandit on a peak is a force to be reckoned with. Dreadful. Just dreadful... Huh, Saul scared her all the way down here. Bandits can mountain-walk, but very slowly. The big problem is that mountains give a huge defensive buff. It still doesn't make them better at hitting you.  Marcus gets up here and meatshields Wolt a bit. He's behind on Def, but he does have a whole lot more HP.  I've had Rutger attack thrice. He has landed three crits. I have absolutely no complaints.  Can she do it? ...no she can't.  Marcus facetanks.  Shanna thinks she can do it too. She is wrong.  Meanwile, everybody manages to hit Bors this round.  Adding insult to injury...  And adding injury to injury. He deserved it.  There were two of these guys. Then they attacked Wolt, and there were none.  And Lugh gets... Oh, come the gently caress on, what have I done to deserve this?  Okay Shanna, at this point I'm kinda pissed so either you do good or you die so I can reset, either way I don't care.  ... I think she performs better under pressure.  Mother of gently caress why  The mage is dangerous and has to go. Fortunately (or unfortunately, since I'd be allowed to reset and try again if someone died) Wolt lands both hits, though he also takes a fireball.  Bors Vulneraries up.  Wolt doesn't have to.  Next round, Bors does it again. And this time, Wolt does it too. This group was tougher than expected.  There's nothing worth mentioning about the battle on the upper path. Chad goes to see if he can find some loot.  It was once wielded by a knight called Sir Gant. The stories say he bested many a foe with this lance! If he bested many a foe, it can't have much durability left.  Who the gently caress is Gant??  ...no wait, that was Guntz. I'm stumped, then. Still, 50 uses? I'll take it.  Shanna hits the shops again. Door keys are cheap, so I get a couple. I don't remember using them a lot in 7, but hey, 50G is a steal and they usually put things like this in right before they expect you to need them.  NO DAMAG. Wolt is at 96 EXP. So help me, if you gently caress this up...  Moment of truth...!  Well at least something good came out of all this.  All the bandits prefer to attack Marcus, since I gave his sword to someone more needy, so this goes slow enough that the rest start catching up.  Strength, Lance. Do you know what "strength" means?  To my shock and horror, Allen seems to be becoming the better of the two, despite his... shaky... start.  Almost done...  Good thing we're in range to retreive another one from the convoy.  I'm just posting this because smears are cool. It not important or anything.  Roy gets a bow from Merlinus and ferries it to Wolt.  And Shanna finishes the last generic. Now for the big fish.  Hey, you. Wanna see why? Not particularly, which is why I'm attacking from outside your range! Wolt only has a 58% chance to hit, and misses. The important bit is getting Dory to switch to range, though, and keeping Wolt where he's standing will accomplish that just fine.  Lugh does better, but Dory can one-shot him with the hand axe, so he can't stay there.  Yoink!  As expected, Dory goes for the weapon he can actually hit us with. Well, the weapon he could technically hit us with if he didn't suck so badly. And Wolt actually hits him this time. Finally, I let Rutger pick his killing edge...  ...and kill! Four hits. Four crits. Gah...! No... I don't wanna... die...Should have thought of that before you started poo poo!  I...'m not sure what to think of this, it's not unexpected, but Rutger - much like Shanna - needs strength. That killing edge won't last forever.  That was a short, easy map, despite some minor hiccups with the gate. A priest from the St. Elimine Church wants an audience with you... and Princess Guinivere! He knew that Princess Guinivere was with us? Yes. I can't imagine how. Me neither... I'll see him alone. Roy, I will be fine. I wish to meet this priest. Princess? Tensions between my brother and the church have worsened as of late. I do not believe they would attempt anything underhanded. I see. Merlinus, allow this priest in.Guess who-  No, of course it's him, I don't know what I was expecting. I am Saul, an acolyte of the St. Elimine Church. Pleased to meet you. Oh... And you must be Princess Guinivere! You are as beautiful as the rumors say! Pardon me...? Ahem... Forgive me. Your Highness, I wish to know the location of the Fire Emblem. You have it with you, do you not? How did you know that?! Bern's head church tells us the Fire Emblem disappeared from the Shrine of Seals. And you also went missing at exactly the same time. ...... I was sent by the church to confirm the truth. Why did you take the Fire Emblem? ...I wished to stop my brother. Your brother... Zephiel, the king of Bern. Yes. Do you know what the Fire Emblem is used for?"You put it in one of those little plastic things kids run around with these days and make little men run around on a grid." ...It's the key that awakens a sword that was used to slay the dragons long ago. That was what my father told me anyway. I am unsure how exactly the Fire Emblem or the sword work.I think I might be able to guess as far as the sword goes. Usually, you stick them with the sharp end. My brother seemed to worry abut the Fire Emblem falling into enemy hands. ...Extraordinarily so. So you took the Fire Emblem to make the king believe it fell into enemy hands? All in an attempt to stop his conquest? Yes... but the war continued anyway. And what will you do now? ...Must I reveal my plan at this moment? Ah, so Your Highness has a plan. Yes. I have not given up hope of settling this war without further bloodshed. I see. In that case, I will accompany you on your journey. If Roy allows it. He is learning!  Of course, Princess.And with that, we are done. The chapter itself may have been filler, but this seems like it could potentially come up again or something.  Next, join us for hopefully not levels with only +HP.
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Jun 6, 2015 19:54
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Nice to see an Archer actually live up to the correct tactical use of Fire Emblem archers; you point him at problems and they cease to be problems.
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Jun 6, 2015 20:33
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Yeah. Just a shame I have to resort to romhacking to see it happen.
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Jun 6, 2015 21:58
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No, no it isn't. Digging her 5 o'clock shadow, though.
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Jun 6, 2015 22:29
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Normally I try to stay out of fan-translation name wars, but... ... Yoder? Really? Seriously, that's what you call Jedi masters from Boston.
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Jun 6, 2015 22:32
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So Wolt is going to promote to Warrior somehow, right? Because even ignoring the "only bows" thing, it seems like a shame for his growing Big McLarge-Huge to be squeezed into Sniper's caps of 24 Strength and 22 Defense. Also, Dorothy just might be your best edit yet, but Angry Eyebrows Roy makes it surprisingly competitive!
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Jun 6, 2015 22:49
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Edit: ^Could also just Romhack sniper caps to be higher. I enjoy watching Wolt actually be good. Also that certainly is one resolved Roy. vilkacis posted:But she comes in with 1 mag and 0 def and gains at the very most 11 exp per round. Her mag growth eventually gets her out of the hole, although yes at the beginning she's terrible in that regard. And her low def never matters because of the thing that actually makes Ellen incredible - namely her 70% Luck growth. She also has hilariously high base luck, which means on average she's got ~25 luck by 20/10 and caps it around 20/15. This is huge because in FE6, luck is just added straight into Avoid and Dodge calculations. With capped luck, Ellen never gets critted ever, and she gets a flat 30 to avoid which is the equivalent of her always being on a throne (albeit without the def boost), and that's before any other terrain she's on. Even though a lot of endgame enemies can oneshot her since even at 20/20 she's rocking an average of 4 def, she's an incredible dodge tank because nothing can hit her. She's also probably going to cap res at 30, so even the kinda more accurate magics don't mean poo poo to her. I don't know, she's kinda like Edward from FE10 for me. Terrible bases but great growths, and comes in super early so you actually have time to dig them out of the hole.
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Jun 6, 2015 22:57
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You know, except for the part where Ellen has a 20% speed growth, the primary component of the avoid formula. E: I have already had to crush dreams by running numbers once Sydin, don't make me do it again.
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Jun 6, 2015 23:15
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Artix posted:You know, except for the part where Ellen has a 20% speed growth, the primary component of the avoid formula. Your first crushed dream was actually wrong, though. Narshen's default weapon is pure physical damage in 6. Even without thrones in play, he needs his Hard Mode stats to even do scratch damage to Hector and will still break it before he gets the kill unless Hector spends the entire fight using his axe instead of his lance. ellen is absolutely terrible though
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Shiny777 posted:Your first crushed dream was actually wrong, though. Narshen's default weapon is pure physical damage in 6. Even without thrones in play, he needs his Hard Mode stats to even do scratch damage to Hector and will still break it before he gets the kill unless Hector spends the entire fight using his axe instead of his lance. That's dumb as poo poo, but I suppose I really should have seen that coming because FE6 doesn't really bother to make sense about that kind of thing.
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Jun 7, 2015 00:07
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Disappointing lack of Bob Odenkirk Saul, but the fish made up for it.
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Edward_Tohr posted:... Yoder? Really? I do think it's an improvement over Yodel Einander posted:So Wolt is going to promote to Warrior somehow, right? Because even ignoring the "only bows" thing, it seems like a shame for his growing Big McLarge-Huge to be squeezed into Sniper's caps of 24 Strength and 22 Defense. There may be something special in store for Wolt, but he's still a while off from promotion. quote:Also, Dorothy just might be your best edit yet, but Angry Eyebrows Roy makes it surprisingly competitive! She's definitely more recognizable than Rutger, even if Unreal_One posted:Digging her 5 o'clock shadow, though. I am now unable to unsee this Shading is hard, okay. Sydin posted:Her mag growth eventually gets her out of the hole Even then she'll have like 10 by level 20 barring the RNG's blessing, and 11 exp/round (if someone is injured and within reach!) it's going to take her like 15 more chapters to even get there. I mean sure we'll get better staves eventually, but it still doesn't seem entirely worth it. Erwin the German posted:Disappointing lack of Bob Odenkirk Saul, but the fish made up for it. Sorry, I am not cultured enough to know what that is.
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